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Vicloz2006
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Butterfly plec question
« on: June 10, 2012, 08:55:14 PM »

Hi so my fish and snails are all doing fine but just recently I have been having trouble keeping my butterfly plecs alive I have lost 4 in total within a month. I currently don't have any but I would like to get one for the 60 litre and one for the 180 litre. I am just wondering if any one has any tips. They were all in established tanks with fish, the tanks had algea in and I was feeding them wafers and plecostomus tablet, they would also have a nibble on the cucumber when I put it in for the fish. Was there something that I was doing wrong? I really like butterfly plecs but I don't want to get some more if they are just going to die again. One I know got trapped under an ornament and I didn't realise and that's how he died but I just don't know with the other three. Two of them were fairly new when they died and the other I had had for about three months. I just don't know if it was the weather, the fish or something I did wrong. If anyone can help me with this it would be very much appreciated. Thanks.
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Skwishee
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Re: Butterfly plec question
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2012, 02:55:19 AM »

Butterfly plecos? Do you have driftwood in the aquarium? I've read pleco's always need some driftwood and hiding spots of course. What's the temperature? As butterfly pleco are tropical.
I found out in fact there are two different types of Butterfly pleco ->
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Maybe something on those websites will prove useful?

I apologise for mentioning this again but could they be Hillstream loach, which are sub temperate/coldwater fish.
If they were hillstream loach, these fish need high 02 levels and a decent current in the water, perhaps if this wasn't met, it could be the reason for losing them?
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Re: Butterfly plec question
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2012, 04:00:55 AM »

I'd highly suggest bristlenoses to keep with goldfish, provided that you keep the tank a bit warmer (say 22-26 degrees celsius). I don't think any plecos would actually die from being stuck under ornaments as they are really nimble and can get in/get out from anywhere.
I don't actually know that much about butterfly plecos though, but note that most plecos grow really big and need large tanks to stay happy and healthy!
I also second the driftwood that skwishee mentioned. Plecos rasp their teeth on the wood to get extra fiber and stay healthy.
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Re: Butterfly plec question
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2012, 05:12:29 AM »

I also have the have the same thing to say about my telescope eye goldfish I can't seem to get one to live past six months.

Do you have to do something special with them?
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Re: Butterfly plec question
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2012, 05:23:59 AM »

Telescope goldfish shouldn't be kept with fantails or orandas that are much bigger, it's better to have it the other way around to be sure it will get its share of food. Try to keep the telescopes about the same size or bigger than the other tank occupants. Other than that, keep the water quality lovely Wink
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Re: Butterfly plec question
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2012, 05:46:28 AM »

I have got some driftwood I just haven't got around to putting it in the tank. I will soak it and put it in the 180 litre before I get another plec and I will buy another piece and soak it and put it in the 60 litre aswell. I had heard they liked wood in the tank I didn't realise they needed it. I know he got caught under the castle it is hollow on the inside of it and he got underneath it and I nudged it when I was cleaning the tank out and there was no way for him to get out as it was flush with the gravel.
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Re: Butterfly plec question
« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2012, 08:18:34 AM »

With the 60 and 180 litres, I know the 180 litre is going to be Merle and Flash's tank, but what's in the 60 again?

Butterfly pleco's are tropical fish they need the temperature to constantly be around 24/25 degrees celsius, I'm not sure why you would have been sold them for a cold water goldfish tank, when it wouldn't have been suitable conditions?
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Re: Butterfly plec question
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2012, 08:50:39 AM »

All the butterfly plecs I get are in the coldwater tanks at the shop. They are also called hong kong plecs. It is Logan, Scarlett and Brian in the 60 litre so two female platy's and an apple snail.
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Re: Butterfly plec question
« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2012, 12:35:50 PM »

If they're in the cold water tank, then they can't be butterfly pleco's, they must be the hillstream loach, which is sometimes called the hong kong plec Cheesy But they are loaches not pleco.

Here's some info about them, that might help you out;
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I know generally these little guys need high 02 and a decent flow rate within the tank, as they come from high current environments. Not sure on their compatibility with platys though?
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Re: Butterfly plec question
« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2012, 02:02:00 PM »

well they seemed to get on fine as the platy are quite quiet I was more worried about them with Flash but they seemed to do well until recently.
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Re: Butterfly plec question
« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2012, 02:49:05 AM »

Ah well that's good Cheesy
Do you have air stones in both tanks for oxygen and a fast current? I'm not too sure how the platys would be, if you increased the current, but the single tailed's would possibly be okay with it. Although I have heard of them being kept with fancy goldfish, where the current is immensely high, but they managed okay because they had the option of sitting in the stream from the filter out take.

I've considered having hillstream loach myself, by keeping them with white cloud minnows, in a river manifold set-up, so there's a fast flow for them  Smiley
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Re: Butterfly plec question
« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2012, 09:50:41 AM »

I had had one of them for several months and was doing well he had grown considerably then all of a sudden he was dead with no warning. He was the last to die. The 60L does have an air stone in as well as the filter. I'm not sure on the make but it creates like a mini waterfall.
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Re: Butterfly plec question
« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2012, 11:42:51 AM »

60L is about the smallest tank size for a small plec and/or loach they like the current from a powerhead...I've got 2 bristlenoses in my 90L and the only time I worry is when I actually see them !
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