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Re: A Snail Tank!
« Reply #30 on: January 02, 2012, 05:07:13 AM »

Yeah even humans.
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Re: A Snail Tank!
« Reply #31 on: January 06, 2012, 03:48:10 PM »

Ah I found this interesting batch of information on a website - (Link is not visible to guests. Please register to view.)

"Scientific Name: Physas sp.
Common Names: Bladder Snail
Care Level: easy
Adult Size: 0.8 inch
pH Range: 7.0-8.0
Temperature Range: 22-30 degrees Celsius (72-86 degrees Fahrenheit)
Origin: Cosmopolitan
Temperament: peaceful

Compatible Tank mates:
Bladder snails will work almost perfectly with all community setups provided the water conditions required are met. They should not however be mixed with fish that will constantly harass or harm them to death such as loaches of the botiine genus and puffers.
Diet:
These snails will eat anything from algae, carrion to commercial foods.
Tank Size For Adult: As these proliferate rather quickly, there is no set guideline on stone as they will add up to the bioload faster than anything else can.
Lifespan: 1-2 years

Narrative:
Bladder snails are one of the snails found to hike amongst plants, woods and other decorations. They have a potential to overcrowd a tank due to their ability to reproduce rather quickly beyond the aquarist's control as these are asexual. They are observed to start reproducing at an early age by laying several egg sacs each containing dozens of baby snails. Incubation period takes one to two weeks and the newborn snails reach full grown size in less than four weeks.

Despite the fact these snails are considered a pest by most aquarists, they will readily eat decaying organic matter and will not eat healthy plants as alleged by most planted tank enthusiasts. It is purely coincidental that they could simply be feeding on the plants due to the absence of vegetable matter in their diet or the plants are dying from nutrient deficiency.

There are actually several species of bladder snails however due to various colors, patterns and shell structures, it has become increasingly difficult to properly identify the actual species so most people do not bother to identify them anymore."

So 1 - 2 years  Cheesy
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Re: A Snail Tank!
« Reply #32 on: May 07, 2012, 04:54:06 PM »

Skwishee

Are you still enjoying your snails? Thinking about adding one to my tank....but your thread left me wondering if it would be more work then it's worth.  Have the snails taken over their tank?  Or are they still cute?

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Re: A Snail Tank!
« Reply #33 on: May 07, 2012, 08:42:42 PM »

I have loads of bladder snails! Started with two and now I keep finding them they breed very quickly but are amazing to watch! I also have two apple snails which I am trying to breed, two ramshorn snails and as yet an unidentifed snail. I love all of them. Bladder snails do some great water acrobatics. I have two tanks set up specifically for snails both have a few plants in, one is filtered and te other has an airstone. I feed them on fish flakes, fish pellets, algea wafers and cucumber twice a week. I find them very easy to look after. Sajacobs if you are planning to have snails in with fish I would recomend putting an apple snail in as they are sexed and need one of each gender to reproduce. I am not sure with bladder snails but I think they can mate on their own as I have one bladder snail in a tank and she keeps laying eggs and I keep finding more snails in that tank. So not sure but in a month I have gone from 2 bladder snails to 6. Doesn't sound that quick but I keep destroying eggs everyday. The only thing I would say if you are planning on keeping snails with fish is to make sure you have got somewhere else to put them incase you need to treat the fish with anything as most treatments are not good for snails.
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Re: A Snail Tank!
« Reply #34 on: May 08, 2012, 08:32:33 AM »

Hey guys, it's funny you all started commenting, the snail tank is getting a re-vamp this week =)
Up until now it's been bare bottom, with shells and elodea -very minimalistic- but I am getting some sand tonight and will also be picking up some cuttle fish and maybe a coconut shell or driftwood.

I will possibly be adding my small internal filter from Luckys tank and introducing a heater. Then either having a proper little snails tank or introducing shrimp Smiley

Sajacobs; I still love my little snail family! They are all adorable and I have a few nice sized adults roaming around the tank now. As I limit their feeding and occasionally squash eggs, they have not over populated, usually a population explosion in a tank is due to over feeding. Not to mention I imagine I suck up some babies during my water changes as it is pretty hard to tell the difference between poo and a baby snail, when they are the same colour and baby snails are really teeny tiny to spot.

The only thing I have found and what I am currently trying to fix, is that a few of my snails have white spots on their shells, so I have been trying to add calcium to the water, currently I chucked in some mashed up egg shells until I can get some cuttle fish.
I think if you decided to keep snails, adding calcium is something to keep in mind Smiley

There are of course plenty of different options on the snail front, as my little guys do have a bad reputation and some people don't like them for their prolific breeding. If your tank has a heater you could always consider Apple Snails (these are easily sexed so you can buy two of the same gender to avoid breeding) or Nerite snails, while these guys do lay eggs, the eggs need brackish conditions to hatch, so you will not have baby snails in that situation either.

This website has some great information on the snails if you are interested  Smiley (Link is not visible to guests. Please register to view.)
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Re: A Snail Tank!
« Reply #35 on: May 08, 2012, 02:33:55 PM »

Thanks skwishee and Vic

I'm on the hunt for an apple snail.  I think this hobby slowly sucks you in.  Just one fish...then snail...then plants...what's next??  A bigger tank??

Any input on what a healthy snail looks like?  Do they need to be quarantined?

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Re: A Snail Tank!
« Reply #36 on: May 08, 2012, 03:35:26 PM »

Hahaha it does suck you in.

I started with two goldfish, now I have a snail tank (possibly shrimp to be added), a 3 foot tank for my Lucky and I have so many different project idea's in my head for tanks a betta set up, a river set-up, an axolotl tank, a puffer fish/asian bio tope tank, maybe a tank for some firemouth chiclids, oh a tank for telescope eye goldfish with as many Panda Moors as I can find and not to mention I want a pond too! XD Haha oh my, if only I had the space and finances to do such crazy things!!

Snails like any other fish, should be quarantined before being introduced to any mature system that already has inhabitants Smiley
As for a healthy snail, I've not had much experience with apple snails, but in general you want one that's shell looks nice, so no cracks or white blemishes Smiley I'm sure one of the others here who has more experience with them could give you further help  Cheesy
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Re: A Snail Tank!
« Reply #37 on: May 08, 2012, 06:56:35 PM »

With apple snails as Skwishee said make sure it has a nice shell I would say look for one that is active if possible, might be difficult as they aren't normally active during the day too much or one that is near the top of the tank and stuck into the side not floating, even then just ask to see whether they sink or float. If they float their maybe something wrong in which case it may die not long after you have bought it. They should sink to the bottom as mine do all the time, but this can bring problems as the do sink when dead aswell, but if they were stuck to the side when you picked it they should be fine!
 Fish keeping really does suck you in, I currently have 4 tanks set up and I am looking for a 160litre tank for flash and Merle. Like Skwishee I also have lots of plans for my fish when I get my own place for now these will have to do.
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Re: A Snail Tank!
« Reply #38 on: May 08, 2012, 08:00:20 PM »

Skwishee
You must post some pics after the remodel of your snail tank....would love to see it.

Vic
Thanks for the info.  I went into my local pet store.  The snails they had weren't apple snails, but they looked horrible.  Poor things.

Well the hunt starts for a healthy snail and maybe a plant (following your suggestion skwishee of the fern). 

I think seeing and hearing your posts about tanks and fish and such....is making me curious about exploring things.  When I was at the pet store....they have a 125 gallon tank....there was a moment.....how many goldfish could I put in it?  Wouldn't that be cool???  Then sanity came back.  I can see this being a slippery slope Wink
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Re: A Snail Tank!
« Reply #39 on: May 10, 2012, 04:59:24 AM »

I often compare the prices of things, to a) what sized tank could that same amount buy and b) how many goldfish would fit in that tank? Cheesy
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Re: A Snail Tank!
« Reply #40 on: May 10, 2012, 02:36:56 PM »

Ok....got my apple snail.  It's a black mystery snail.  Not the prettiest but alive and healthy.  It was stuck to the glass of the tank (thanks vic that was a great tip), has a large beautiful shell.  For $1.29 I couldn't loose.

I've done some reading on what to feed it.  But wanted the groups input.  The info I read sounds like feed every other day....things like carrots, peas, cucumber and fish waffers.

I also found a beautiful Java fern, but I read apple snails will strip plants.  Any wisdom on this part?

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Re: A Snail Tank!
« Reply #41 on: May 10, 2012, 02:40:52 PM »

I don't have any experience with apple snails (as I've mentioned before) but I find that my snails (un like Lucky) are rather slow eaters  Wink So it can take them a while to eat things. For example I stuck in a few peas to my snail tank on Monday or Tuesday and there is still some in there today  Smiley

Courgette/Zuchinni is another thing I feed them and I also occasionally feed them crushed fish flakes -not sure if that last one would be good for an apple snail though?
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Re: A Snail Tank!
« Reply #42 on: May 10, 2012, 07:08:35 PM »

I have one Mystery snail and its also black and the  live plants are fine.
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Re: A Snail Tank!
« Reply #43 on: May 11, 2012, 08:44:37 AM »

Thanks fantailer

I've been thinking - gee I'm worried about quarantining the plant when in fact I should be worried about the snail eating it Wink

I love my snail. I didn't think it would be such an interesting creature. He didn't eat the carrot I left over nite.  Going to try a blanched cucumber. A fussy eating snail?
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Re: A Snail Tank!
« Reply #44 on: May 11, 2012, 09:59:57 AM »

Yeah live plants are fine just look out incase there are any other snails on them. I put cucumber in for them twice a week the fish have a nibble and the snails normally finish it off. The will eat any fish food that sinks to the bottom aswell if they are in with fish. I would love to see a picture of it. I am after an ivory apple snail at the moment as both of mine are yellow an I want to add some other color to the tank.
 Also it can take them a few days to eat their food. One of my apple snails was used to being in with my bigger fish who eat everything in seconds, so she eats everything she finds as she finds it. Lol! But some of my others do take days to Finnish off their food. It can also depend whether they have found it or not.
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Re: A Snail Tank!
« Reply #45 on: May 12, 2012, 04:27:25 PM »

Well Vic I think you answered my question from this morning....

Last night I put in a very small piece of carrot (something this new fish is not interested in). The carrot was gone this morning.....so I guess it wasn't the snail. My new fish must have eaten it.

Gosh I hope the poor thing doesnt get hungry.
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Re: A Snail Tank!
« Reply #46 on: May 13, 2012, 05:22:33 AM »

You could always put food in a little jar for the snails? Something that they can get into, but the fish can't?

As for live plants, it is usually a good idea to quarantine them  Smiley
I tend to check mine for any snails *these are then added to my snail family* and I thoroughly wash the plant, give it a salt dip for around 10 minutes, thoroughly wash it again and let it soak in freshwater for 24 hours.
Sometimes there can be more then snails on plants  Wink
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Re: A Snail Tank!
« Reply #47 on: May 13, 2012, 06:32:20 AM »

Oh and also!! Ta Da!!!

My snail beach is complete Cheesy

It might get altered as things go along, but for now, I'm glad my snails have a nice little set-up now Smiley

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Re: A Snail Tank!
« Reply #48 on: May 13, 2012, 07:53:03 AM »

Are all those snails!!!! That tank is awesome!!
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Re: A Snail Tank!
« Reply #49 on: May 13, 2012, 11:51:37 AM »

That's so cute! Man, they're such lucky snails Wink
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« Reply #50 on: May 13, 2012, 01:21:50 PM »

Aw thanks guys Cheesy There is only around 20 snails at the moment, but I have spotted soooo many eggs hanging out in the elodea!

They're munching on some brocolli now  Grin
Oh and I also got a snap shot of one my snails going for a wander, I love how they casually glide along the surface upside down <3
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Re: A Snail Tank!
« Reply #51 on: May 13, 2012, 03:06:58 PM »

Cool Cheesy

Lucky snails.  I like the shells especially.
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« Reply #52 on: May 13, 2012, 06:31:56 PM »

I love that about my snails too! So far I have 14 bladder snails, 2 ramshorn, 2 apple snails, one unknown and one that is too small to id! Cheesy I love them all! You never would have thought they would be so fascinating! Your tank looks amazing! I wish I could do achieve something like that.
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« Reply #53 on: May 14, 2012, 03:46:16 AM »

Awww thanks guys  Cheesy

Vic you could totally do a tank like this! All it is, is sand with some shells and bits of gravel chucked around, one or two stones and some cuttlefish  Smiley

Plus I really like the pattern in the sand, that the snails leave  Grin
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« Reply #54 on: May 18, 2012, 02:01:04 PM »

Well I'm completely enjoying my new snail.  Never thought it would be fun to watch the snail make its rounds.  I get a kick out of him climbing the walls and seeing its month open and close. I guess it's finding some good stuff when it's doing that. 

Thinking about getting anther mystery snail. So any tips on finding the same gender? Or is that wishful newbie thinking?
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Re: A Snail Tank!
« Reply #55 on: May 19, 2012, 03:56:22 AM »

There are ways to tell the difference between male and female apple snails  Smiley

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« Reply #56 on: May 20, 2012, 08:12:18 PM »

I love watching my larger apple snail (which is the female) I totally love her and I think she is so beautiful! I have always loved snails though so no one I know is really that suprised! Lol! I have a massive snail family now. I have a bowl full of babies, and yes I said a bowl. When I see them in a tank I take them out put the in the bowl until they are a bit bigger and easier to spot. Plus at the moment I am also thinking about the moving when I trade all my tanks up. They are growing well and eat everything I put in.
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Re: A Snail Tank!
« Reply #57 on: May 21, 2012, 03:48:20 PM »

Vic
I really enjoy my snail too.  I find it so interesting watching it make it's way around the tank.  Eating whatever it's finding. A gentle soul.   Cheesy

I'm not ready for babies.  I believe my snail is female (I had a peak under the shell Wink). I ordered a mystery blue snail.....so hoping its a female.

But knowing my luck with the tank...it will be a male and I'll have a tank with baby snails..
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Re: A Snail Tank!
« Reply #58 on: May 21, 2012, 04:13:33 PM »

You could always give babies away to local fish stores, if they'll accept them Smiley
Some stores might even give you some money for them.
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Re: A Snail Tank!
« Reply #59 on: May 22, 2012, 01:39:40 PM »

I'm a softie....I would probably end up with a snail tank like someone else on this site Wink

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