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orandagal
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Chemicals-which do you use and why?
« on: January 30, 2012, 10:37:25 AM »

Morning all,
I'm going to check levels in my tank in just a little bit to see where we are with the cycling, but was on line checking different prices on filter inserts and chemicals. So far, the best prices I have found are with Aquarium Guys. With that being said, there are a million different chemicals out there to purchase. I wish I had done my homework first before I went shopping, because I think I bought a few chemicals I really didn't need (but I was going off the booklet from the aquarium kit) They recommended I buy (which I did) Nutrafin "cycle", Nutrafin "plant gro" and Nutrafin "waste control" and I also purchased Aqueon "water conditioner"-so along with the Master Test kit, these are the chemicals I currently have. What chemicals do you feel are a must, what don't I need and would you add something else, do you prefer another brand and if so, why? This subject may have been posted somewhere else and I'm still in the process of reading thru all the great posts. This forum has helped me a lot and I can see so many things I did wrong in the beginning of fish ownership. I just sent an email out to a friend with this link for the forum so she can get helpful hints as well. Thanks again in advance for your replies.
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Nossie
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Re: Chemicals-which do you use and why?
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2012, 04:50:29 PM »

Only water conditioner and beneficial bacteria. Plant growth agents are generally useless when keeping goldfish since you can't have any delicate plants anyway and the goldfish will create enough nitrogen on their own.
It really isn't that complicated, as long as the water quality is good, the fish will be happy Smiley No need to get any of those for "crystal clear water" or "kill algae" and whatever they're called xD
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Re: Chemicals-which do you use and why?
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2012, 05:13:10 PM »

I use aquasafe water conditioner for water changes
and easybalance as a buffer, which means I only need to gravel clean my tank....each week 10% rather than 50%...great stuff
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Re: Chemicals-which do you use and why?
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2012, 07:36:49 PM »

Thank you both for your replies. That helps me out. Tested my levels and today we are at PH 8.0 ppm, Ammonia 0.25 ppm, Nitrite .50 ppm, and Nitrate 0 ppm. Guess I'm going to have to wait a little longer before letting my fish move to their new home  Sad Sure wish this would cycle. I also read that I should still do a little bit of a water change as well, so did that yesterday. I still want to get some more plants to make it look no quite so bare.
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Re: Chemicals-which do you use and why?
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2012, 09:34:09 PM »

I use Aqueon conditioner too and Petsmart's generic bacteria. I also keep Melafix on hand in case I have an injury.
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Re: Chemicals-which do you use and why?
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2012, 03:57:41 AM »

Cycling a tank is all about patience... Smiley Later when you've moved the fish you need to test the water every day as well to make sure there's nothing harmful around. I changed out some water about a day or two after introducing the first fish to my tank Smiley
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Re: Chemicals-which do you use and why?
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2012, 05:49:20 AM »

remember to add the fish gradually, as each fish will affect the balance of the Tank, forcing it into a mini-cycle . And as Nossie says lots of water changes after you add new fish. Some people recommend at least every other day Grin
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Re: Chemicals-which do you use and why?
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2012, 01:21:54 PM »

Thanks again, unfortunately I'm not known for my patience but I know this is the best possible thing to keep my fish alive and happy so wait I will  Grin I may do some plant shopping this weekend but will to do a little more looking before I purchase. I was so excited that I bought some Java (fern type) but they were in containers listed "snail free" and you really have no way of seeing what the roots look like until you get them home and open the package. The roots weren't very good, but I put them in the aquarium anyway. Their still alive, but not looking too perky. I'm hoping they will come back so I'm just leaving them for now, but want to check at a regular fish store this time and see what they have to offer. Well, need to run, but again, thanks so much for everyones help Smiley
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Re: Chemicals-which do you use and why?
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2012, 01:29:35 PM »

All the java ferns I have bought from petsmart just have a hard little clump of dark roots but they are all thriving and rooting anyways.
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Re: Chemicals-which do you use and why?
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2012, 01:38:19 PM »

 when you transplant seedlings in your garden , their growth is checked for a while...It's the same with aquatic plants Grin
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Re: Chemicals-which do you use and why?
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2012, 01:59:47 PM »

It's that patience thing again  Grin
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Re: Chemicals-which do you use and why?
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2012, 02:32:32 PM »

What's the matter with the roots? I've never in my life seen a Java fern with root problems since all of them normally has this little bundle of black threads for roots... Grin
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Re: Chemicals-which do you use and why?
« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2012, 03:02:49 PM »

They just didn't look healthy when they came out of the package. Some of the leaves at the bottom were falling off, some broken stems and there weren't very many roots to begin with. They may come back, but they didn't have as many roots as I expected them too. I'm not giving up though, and will continue to plant a few more in the next couple of weeks  Smiley
 
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Re: Chemicals-which do you use and why?
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2012, 04:05:15 AM »

They could've broken during transport, since you couldn't pick the prettiest plant in the bunch from a tank, I imagine that's quite likely especially as they're packed like that Smiley
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Re: Chemicals-which do you use and why?
« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2012, 04:49:39 AM »

Good luck with the plants Orandagal Smiley

With chemicals, I recently started using Stress Coat as my water conditioner, it also contains aloe vera so should there be any injury, I just double the dosage to make the aloe vera concentrated enough and it can help the fish heal.
I also use Stress Zyme, which is my beneficial bacteria.

My previous water conditioner was called Tap Safe, but it was sold in such small bottles, I would have been buying them by the bucket load to keep up with the large tank, so I switched over to something which was sold in larger quantities  Wink
I did use in the very beginning this stuff called Fish Safe, that said it would clean the tank water and I was supposed to add it in between water changes. But really I stopped using it after about the first week.
In my opinion an actual water change is going to be more helpful than dumping chemicals in the water.
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