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Vicloz2006
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Assassin snails!
« on: March 14, 2012, 08:06:13 PM »

Does anyone one here know anything about assassin snails? I have found two random baby snails in my QT tank and from what I can see they don't look like apple snail babies! Can assassin snails survive in cold water or are they for tropical tanks only! Only from what we can see and the research we have done that's what they look like!
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Re: Assassin snails!
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2012, 11:38:12 PM »


Assassin Snails feed on other snails (or other meaty foods including krill and bloodworms) and prefer a temperature range of 22-27 celsius or 72-80 Fahrenheit.

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Re: Assassin snails!
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2012, 03:11:42 AM »

What other kind of snail could they be? Or is it a waiting game to see when they get bigger?
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Re: Assassin snails!
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2012, 11:16:24 AM »

have you bought any live plants recently? they might have been hiding in them

can you post a pic? they could be pond snails
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Re: Assassin snails!
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2012, 12:43:26 PM »

They are too small to get a picture of but yeah I bought some live plants about a week ago! I will try and get some but they really are sooooo small!
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Re: Assassin snails!
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2012, 02:54:15 PM »

Hi Vic,

As I mentioned on FB, snails with a black and gold shell, immediatley made me think of these guys;

Bumblee Snail
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Nerite Snail (These guys have many different combinations of colours)
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They could also be Malaysian Trumpet Snails
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I could be completely wrong with all of these, but thought I'd suggest them anyway  Smiley
When it comes to buying plants, I like to think of it more as a snail lottery Smiley Sounds like you got a good one! My last snail findings were just more bladder snails XD
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Re: Assassin snails!
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2012, 04:02:42 PM »

They also could be Pond Snails or Ramshard Snails.

Pond Snails look sorta like a mix of Apple and Nerite.

Ramshorn look like the Malayans.
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Re: Assassin snails!
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2012, 05:16:22 PM »

Well they could be bladder snails! I'm not bothered if they are tbh, I just want to know what they are in case of any dietary requirements so I can look after them properly! They are so cute at the moment and so small one is only just bigger than a pin head!
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Re: Assassin snails!
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2012, 07:18:42 PM »

Not a very good picture but this is one of my new little snails.
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Re: Assassin snails!
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2012, 02:46:36 PM »

Ah yes! That looks like a bladder snail  Grin

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Expect a small family within a few weeks Wink

These guys will eat lots of things, as mine live in a seperate tank, I just chuck food in for them.
Currently they have some lettuce and peas. They take ages to eat anything, so I leave vegetables in there until their pretty much gone, which can take a few days. I also give them brocolli, occasionally crushed up fish flakes and sometimes stick in a holiday block -I had some but never use them for the fish so thought the snails would appreciate it!
They often end up bundled all together on the food, hitch hike rides on each other, the other day I saw 3 of them one on the top of the other, making a sort of strange arch shape XD I have no idea how they'd ended up like that!
And if they are in a still water tank, they will gracefully float to the top for air and then float back down. It looks like some kind of underwater ballet, I love watching them when they do it!

They are the easiest things to look after, I started off with 3 snails and I've since lost count!
Mine have an unfiltered tank, which I clean when once every few weeks, when I decide the bottom of the tank is too messy! As the snails are very hardy and can live in stagnant/still water Smiley
The only real issue I've had is sucking snails up whilst cleaning the tank!

Would you keep them separately or in your main tank?  Smiley
I did originally have mine in a little bucket, like a very small plastic container kind of thing, but when Lucky got upgraded, I let the snails have run of her old 21 litre tank  Cheesy
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Re: Assassin snails!
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2012, 03:24:22 PM »

I am gonna get them a small tank for 15! Not very big just big enough for the two of them!
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Re: Assassin snails!
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2012, 03:51:16 PM »

You won't have 2 of them for long! These guys breed like crazy, my tank is covered with baby snails everywhere!
I wish I had a camera with a decent enough focus to take a picture of them all Grin

I've decorated my little 21 litre tank with some sea shells and I will eventually get some silk plants, so it looks more like a tank Cheesy
You could have live plants in there if you wanted, I've had some floating pieces of cabomba in the tank with them for a while now, I just thought silk plants would be easier to wash eggs off Wink

Also if you have any spare air tubing or something slim and pipe like, I would suggest using that as opposed to a gravel cleaner.
I use some old air tubing my dad had, it's quite a small opening, but I simply stick one end in the tank water, suck on the other end like a straw to get the suction going (trying not to get a mouth full of tank water) and clean it out that way. I try to avoid the snails as much as I can, but I have sucked one or two up, one went all the way to the bucket and the other got stuck so I had to cut him out of the tube, poor thing!
I also sometimes suck out some of the eggs to keep the population under control, as sometimes there are at least 5 or 6 egg sacs around if not more, but I mostly leave them to it.
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Re: Assassin snails!
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2012, 04:54:24 PM »

Do bladder snails lay their eggs in the water? I know apple snails don't as mine just has laid some on the lid! Had a real panic when I found her with them!
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Re: Assassin snails!
« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2012, 05:19:10 PM »

Bladder snails lay their eggs under water, pretty much anywhere!
My guys mostly lay eggs on the side of the tank, but they will also lay eggs on plants if you have any in their tank (hence I mentioned having plastic ones as their easier to clean eggs off Wink )

Oh one other cool thing the snails do, is glide across the surface of the water upside down ^_^
Haha forget spider pig! These guys are spider snails  Cheesy Grin

Oh also, these snails tend to stay tiny, the largest adult snail I have..... well it's shell is 1cm long, so it's slightly longer than this when it's body is out and it's crawling around  Smiley
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Re: Assassin snails!
« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2012, 08:30:59 PM »

I read that they can grown to 1 inch! I don't think I am gonna let them breed as I will already have way too many snails by then! They are getting bigger now and easier too see! When I get them their new tank I will take some pictures to post! Introduce my new babies to everyone, especially now they have names! They won't be my new babies for much longer what with 2 clusters of apple snail eggs! Lol!  Grin
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Re: Assassin snails!
« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2012, 04:36:05 AM »

An inch?
If those are the same snail's I have, they are acute bladder snails and will only grow to a few cm's at the most.
You may be thinking of the common pond snail, these guys look similar and yes they do grow to an inch in size.

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A handy little thing I came across, you may find interesting.
As you can see the acute bladder snails have a dark body, whereas the pond snail has a spotty body  Smiley

Good luck trying to stop them breeding, their asexual so it's pretty much impossible Wink You can keep the population under control by destroying their eggs, this is why I found it easier to have them in a tank by themselves with minimal decoration -the eggs are easier to spot! But if their in a tank by themselves, it won't matter too much if they breed a little.

The only real problems I've discovered from researching them, is that they can over populate a tank (becoming an 'eye sore') and if there are enough they can block the impeller fan in a filter, but in an unfiltered tank by themselves this isn't an issue. The only other issue is eating plants, but I've personally never seen my snails eat a healthy plant.
So I think it depends on the breed and type of plant Smiley My guys have had bits of floating cabomba (after Lucky ate most of it in her tank) they just like climbing on it  Cheesy
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Re: Assassin snails!
« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2012, 08:43:30 AM »

Yeah I did read that about acute bladder snails that they only grow to a few cm's I will put one of them into the new tank I get and leave the other in my other tank then I think! I will have more than enough apple snails my mum will kill me if my bladder snails breed aswell! What else do they live well with? I don't mean fish wise the tank I am thinking of getting is too small for fish! I was thinking a shrimp and maybe a clam?
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Re: Assassin snails!
« Reply #17 on: March 22, 2012, 05:52:25 AM »

I believe you can keep the snails with shrimp, but I don't know a lot about shrimp, from what I read before they need a sponge filter, not sure about the food side of things, just look into what species of shrimp you'd like to keep and its requirements.
As for clams? I have no idea, you'd have to look into them.

My snails pretty much take care of themselves at the moment, so I decided not to add anything else to their tank for now. Lucky is enough work for me at the moment!

Also be aware that bladder snails are hermaphroditic (unlike apple snails that are sexed) so by all means see if separating them works, I'm not sure how likely it is for a bladder snail to self fertilize. But perhaps have one in a jar or vase rather than your main tank and one in the intended shrimp tank, just in case Smiley
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Re: Assassin snails!
« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2012, 01:01:07 PM »

they arent going near my main tank, one is going in my new tank and one is staying where it is. I got two variatus platy's to go with Tony when he goes in the new tank. I think Dale might be joining them then Thor can have the QT tank all to himself. I thought bladder snails were asexual. I was looking them up and Im sure it said somewhere that they were asexual not hermaphroditic.
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Re: Assassin snails!
« Reply #19 on: March 22, 2012, 06:23:26 PM »

My snails mated twice in the second day I had them!! Roll Eyes
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Re: Assassin snails!
« Reply #20 on: March 22, 2012, 07:42:07 PM »

Mine haven't yet! Gonna separate them soon!
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Re: Assassin snails!
« Reply #21 on: March 22, 2012, 08:10:42 PM »

Sorry Skwishee I got the terms asexual and hermaphroditic mixed up! Your right they are asexual! Which means you need two for them to mate right?
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Re: Assassin snails!
« Reply #22 on: March 23, 2012, 04:13:29 AM »

Hmm well now you mentioned asexual I am not sure Undecided
I think I got them confused as well XD

If their hermaphrodites, essentially you need two, because one will assume the male role and the other the female role.
But if their asexual then you only need one.

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I never really looked into it before, because I wasn't bothered about them breeding. I suppose if you have them separated we'll soon find out?  Wink
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Re: Assassin snails!
« Reply #23 on: March 23, 2012, 09:50:30 AM »

That's true! I saw on one site someone had one bladder snail and was asking about breeding them and they were told they needed two, so I don't know! Let's hope you do need two though! Lol!
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