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cheri_alexander
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I must have this!
« on: March 14, 2012, 12:29:07 AM »
Doesn't it look like a Pokemon?? Only needs a 20 gallon tank and can live 15 years! Eats the protein I already have on hand...in fact I could probably make an all-meat gel food it would like. It is simply the cutest creature I have ever seen. I think I will name him Togepi!
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Skwishee
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« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2012, 04:37:19 AM »
Awwww I'd love to have an axototl one day ^_^
How will you keep the temperature below 23 degress celsius?
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Re: I must have this!
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2012, 05:48:44 AM »
Aww I've never seen an axototl once in my life. That would be great to have!
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« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2012, 12:53:47 PM »
Cheri, it's adorable,  Smiley but I have to be honest, when I first saw it I thought it was a really cute decoration in an aquarium. I couldn't believe it after looking it up on line, it is alive!  I want to read up on them, it's very interesting to learn about something new. Never heard of them but they are Very, very cute!
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« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2012, 01:24:04 PM »
Someone keeps them on another forum I frequent - I didn't know anything about them before! Skwishee- I know they make chillers for large tanks not sure about a 20-30 gallon, it would only need to be chilled during Spring and Fall when I leave my a/c off . I will have to think about it and do lots of research first. I'm not even sure where you can buy them or how much they cost, I have certainly never seen one around here.
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« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2012, 02:16:48 PM »
you would probably find it easiest to use a sump tank and use a heat exchanger in that...I believe temperature stability is the key factor...with scrupulously good water quality...you'll probably have to buy purified/distilled water from the chemist...or collect rain-water
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« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2012, 04:07:32 PM »
What's a chemist? I can get purified water from the grocery store- isn't it true that you can't keep animals or plants alive with distilled water since it is lacking all minerals. I will definetly do more research before getting one, I may even build the tank for it since they don't like a lot of depth when they are young.
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« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2012, 04:29:46 PM »
Awwwhhhh  how cute! I agree with orandagal though, they don't look really!? Very human like! :O I was looking at them on google and they are quite big aren't they? Hope you get one, you can tell us all about him then! Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2012, 04:57:56 PM »
Up to 14" I think! It's so interesting that if under stress the can metamorphize and become terrestrial! Not that it should be happening in captivity but still interesting.
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« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2012, 05:14:17 PM »
I saw an axolotl once before in a pet store, I believe it was being donated to a public place (I forget if it was an aquarium or wildlife park), but it was adorable! I've only heard about them recently though and researched them a little out of curiosity Smiley

If I were to have one, I'd want a custom tank, as they don't need a lot of depth, but I imagine would prefer shallow, longer tanks... I'd make an entire slice of a river for it to live in with some kind of sponge filter... Grin

Although whilst reading up about them, it mentions if temperature gets above 23/24 degrees celsius, it causes problems, so I'm not sure how you could go about keeping the temperature that low, especially in summer months?

As for the water, I have read you can use distilled water, but I'm sure there must be some kind of conditioner for tap water out there for them?

They are fascinating though, I was considering having one in the 3 foot tank when Lucky has her pond, but I'm not sure, I'd rather provide a longer tank for one if I could!
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« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2012, 05:24:44 PM »
I have heard not to let the water get above 65 F...what is that celcius?? That's not too cold. According to several people who keep them they aren't too delicate- one is kept in a community tank and the other guy just keeps them in a 20 with a power filter. Of course I'd want to do what is best for it.
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« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2012, 05:27:54 PM »
65 degrees farenheit? That's around.... 18 degrees celsius or so I believe Smiley

What kind of filter would be best for it I wonder as they like slow moving currents?
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« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2012, 05:46:55 PM »
Oh ok, good. They are native to Mexico so their water doesn't need to be kept freezing or anything- just cool and a constant temp. I was trying to think of a filter I could make- something along the lines of an internal or sponge filter maybe. A lot of room for media but a slow flow....or maybe split the output and have it come out in many trickles instead of one gush. I'm sure I could figure something out.
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« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2012, 06:00:49 PM »
Okay, the moment I read 'many trickles' I instantly thought WATERFALL!!!!
Not a massive waterfall of course, but imagine a long thin tank, looking like a slice of river, with water from the filter output, pouring gently down a little waterfall back into the tank.... you know something like this at one end of the tank; (Link is not visible to guests. Please register to view.)

 Grin  Cheesy

You could always make one by hand, so it was a gentle enough slope to not make too much current  Smiley
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« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2012, 06:07:15 PM »
You are giving me ideas!! What if it like a 6 ft tank with a shallow river and on one end a bit of land and natual semi-aquatic plants planted..and trickle water fall....I wonder if they can live with other amphibians...I know they eat them, lol. And a little shoal of minnows or something cold-water and cheap that he can snack on. LED lights high up so it looks like mild natural sunlight.
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« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2012, 06:21:53 PM »
Oh I'm so excited, I wish I had the money to go and build a little river tank with a cascading water fall right now!!!
It could even be a gentle sloping waterfall made out of slate pieces.... oh with some nice rocks... I love that land idea... what about a bog/marsh area with some lovely bog plants?

Remember this whole thing would need some kind of tight fitting lid Grin But in such a nice environment, the axolotl wouldn't want to try and escape right? Cheesy
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« Reply #16 on: March 14, 2012, 06:45:00 PM »
Haha- they can't leave the water in this form. I'm going to study their natural enviroment,get an idea of plants and fish that they live with...Maybe affix some over hanging branches for shade...lots of moss. What a cool idea!
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« Reply #17 on: March 14, 2012, 06:52:19 PM »
Looking on care sheets, it is warned that a tight fitting lid is needed as they can try to escape anyway and if they succeed and aren't found in time, then yes they'll die.

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In fact wikihow mentions a mesh lid, that could be quite nice and would allow you to have moss growing over the top.... oh and it would allow plants in the bog/land area to grow nice and tall out of the tank  Cheesy
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« Reply #18 on: March 14, 2012, 06:56:19 PM »
Hmm. Silly guys. I'll definetly have to read up when I have time. Maybe this idea will take the place of my saltwater build, I'd like something different and challenging.
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« Reply #19 on: March 14, 2012, 07:06:40 PM »
In fact this is quite an interesting FAQ section I just found on axolotls with lots of different questions answered  Smiley
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The whole site is just full of information, in case you hadn't seen it before  Smiley

Hmm I wonder why they escape from aquaria... perhaps they just really like to explore?

Oh, oh also it does say this on the FAQ;
"You could keep 2 adults in a 10 US gallon / 37 litre aquarium with no problems."

Maybe I could have one after all  Grin It also has interesting methods on keeping the water cool, it says to use water frozen in a plastic bottle. Simply float the ice bottle in the tank and voila water cools  Cheesy
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« Reply #20 on: March 14, 2012, 11:15:32 PM »
Don't know how reliable this is, but here is another site with prices (in the states) and more info about the Axolotl. You have me intrigued Smiley
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« Reply #21 on: March 15, 2012, 03:12:08 AM »
Okay this is getting me excited! I have a free ten gallon tank!!

But its a quarintine tank right now.
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