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Betta Velvet! UPDATED, HELP!! ~ URGENT!
« on: November 21, 2010, 12:04:20 PM »

Hey all! I know this forum is for goldies  Grin but I'm really worried about my female betta Jubilee. She has freshwater velvet I'm almost positive, and so I put her and her three other betta friends in a hospital tank (the same one I used for Jenga, but don't worry, I cleaned it out!!  Smiley)

What should I do? She's acting relatively normal, but I can see the velvet-gold "dust" on her. She won't eat either, though her other betta friends go straight to the food. They're not hogging the food either - I place the food in front of her, she leaves it alone for about half a minute, then the others go for it. What should I do??

Later today I'm going to stop by PetCo and see if I can purchase some Malachite Green to help stop the velvet spreading through the tank. Or should I just use the medication I already have (LifeGuard)?
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Re: Betta Velvet!
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2010, 12:48:55 PM »

 The best thing most effective for velvet is something called Betta Zing.  It is really tough on especially velvet.
 Use Betta Zing at a 12 drop per gallon concentration.
If you cannot find Betta Zing then my next best pick would be Fungus Eliminator by Jungle.  Easy to find and broad spectrum, anti fungla, anti bacterial and anti parasitic.
With velvet, it is extremely contagious and usually fatal because by the time you see the parasite, it is almost too late.
However sometimes treating is successful so I would at least try. Smiley
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Re: Betta Velvet!
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2010, 12:51:25 PM »

I'm not sure about the life guard, it doesn't say it specifically treats velvet. Smiley
You could also try either Mardel’s CopperSafe® or Jungle’s Velvet Guard®.  Both of these meds are safe for Bettas.
Reducing the amount of light getting into the tanks by keeping the hood lamp off and covering the tank may help to combat the parasites as well.
One thing, you have to be careful and make sure the medication is safe to use with Bettas.

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Re: Betta Velvet!
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2010, 01:56:58 PM »

I don't have much experience with velvet myself, and there hasn't been that much talk about it here BUT, I do know that special anti-parasite meds work successfully against them. You can try with something against ich, but if that doesn't work, take something more universal against parasites Smiley

Other than that, I believe Mindemae's advice are a tad more useful Smiley
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Re: Betta Velvet!
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2010, 04:26:36 PM »

Ok guys, I'll go back and read the comments, but I need to say something really important.

So I was using a plastic pot holder in the quarantine tank, and Jubilee got stuck in one of the holes in the bottom!  Cry It took at least 5 minutes but I perservered and helped her struggle out. BUT now she has a bunch of ugly wounds on her back! One is bleeding. What should I do???
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Re: Betta Velvet! UPDATED, HELP!! ~ URGENT!
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2010, 04:30:37 PM »

Put a few drops ofwater condtioner in the water and treat her for velvet.
Most of the velvet meds mentioned above also treat infections.
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Re: Betta Velvet! UPDATED, HELP!! ~ URGENT!
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2010, 04:38:36 PM »

conditioner? Like dechlorinator?
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Re: Betta Velvet! UPDATED, HELP!! ~ URGENT!
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2010, 04:40:23 PM »

What ever water condtioner you use for your fish!
It will help protect the slime coat and aid in healing.
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Re: Betta Velvet! UPDATED, HELP!! ~ URGENT!
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2010, 04:43:20 PM »

Ok Minde, karma 4 u!!
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Re: Betta Velvet! UPDATED, HELP!! ~ URGENT!
« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2010, 04:57:03 PM »

Thanx Oranda Lover. Smiley
Keep us posted on how she is doing and the rest of your fish too.
Hope she pulls through.
What medication did you get for her?
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« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2010, 04:59:34 PM »

I couldn't find malachite green or any of your recommended medications, so I used this:

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Re: Betta Velvet! UPDATED, HELP!! ~ URGENT!
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2010, 05:10:26 PM »

It does say that it treats protozoans, and since the velvet parasite Oodinium is a ciliated protozoan, it might work Smiley

In case you didn't know, keeping the tank darker should help too, as it would keep the parasites from  performing their photosynthesis.
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Re: Betta Velvet! UPDATED, HELP!! ~ URGENT!
« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2010, 05:13:59 PM »

ok, I jus turned off the lights near the fish tank Smiley

Any more suggestions to help my poor wounded fishie?  Embarrassed And sorry - I made a mistake the injured fish isn't jubilee, it's Aria. I really hope she pulls through! I'll try and get u guys a picture

UPDATE: Got some pics of Aria. As you might be able to see, her right fin is wounded and she can't really move it
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Re: Betta Velvet! UPDATED, HELP!! ~ URGENT!
« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2010, 05:25:50 PM »

Poor little sweetheart!! Sad
You should definitely take care of her wounds! Did you already add that medicine to the container? It should help a bit as well Smiley Aside from Minde's description Smiley
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Re: Betta Velvet! UPDATED, HELP!! ~ URGENT!
« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2010, 05:28:03 PM »

you mean the Betta Revive? Yes, I added one drop. The directions said to add 1 drop per 16 fluid oz, but I'm going to wait a little while. The container is about 1.5 gallons, a little more, so I'm going to add more later.
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Re: Betta Velvet! UPDATED, HELP!! ~ URGENT!
« Reply #15 on: November 21, 2010, 05:34:34 PM »

Alright! Sounds good so far! Just in case, sometimes it's better to make sure that the fish doesn't get worse instead of wanting instant recovery. Add the medication and then watch and let the fish rest Smiley
Are you sure one drop is enough in this container? (I'm not familiar with ounces just yet)
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Re: Betta Velvet! UPDATED, HELP!! ~ URGENT!
« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2010, 05:36:38 PM »

You should treat full strength right away.
If you don't the velvet may become more resistant and harder to treat or become fatal!
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Re: Betta Velvet! UPDATED, HELP!! ~ URGENT!
« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2010, 05:40:46 PM »

ok guys, I just added another drop or two. I'll just wait and see Smiley
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Re: Betta Velvet! UPDATED, HELP!! ~ URGENT!
« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2010, 07:23:34 PM »

Oh my gosh! yay! She's doing much better. She's swimming around occasionally, and the bloody spot seems a little paler.
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Re: Betta Velvet! UPDATED, HELP!! ~ URGENT!
« Reply #19 on: November 22, 2010, 03:21:27 AM »

That's a good sign! Smiley Wounds on fish use to be turning a more pink tone when they heal Smiley And the edges use to get more even and usually a white color Smiley
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Re: Betta Velvet! UPDATED, HELP!! ~ URGENT!
« Reply #20 on: November 22, 2010, 05:07:38 AM »

Sorry to read this post so late, just thought I add what I used when Barbarossa was in a bad state.

I don't know much about velvet but that it is nasty. I promise I'll read up and learn....

But to treat wounded tissue there is BettaFix by API available. It is a natural remedy and it sure will help after the velvet is cured or even in combination.

I HOPE YOUR BETTA LADY ARIA WILL RECOVER SOON !
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Re: Betta Velvet! UPDATED, HELP!! ~ URGENT!
« Reply #21 on: November 23, 2010, 07:34:30 PM »

Ok thanks guys!

Hanna- I'll see if I can find that stuff



One more thing. I think Jubilee is beginning to show signs of dropsy, as some of her scales are turning outward.
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Re: Betta Velvet! UPDATED, HELP!! ~ URGENT!
« Reply #22 on: November 23, 2010, 07:54:44 PM »

You can use this treatment on Bettas as well as goldfish.
raise temp up to 80F
add 1/4 tsp of epsoms salts per gallon of water.
Use Maracyn II according to pkg directions and repeat treatment.
Feed an antibiotic food.  You can get a product by jungle, I don't know if they make a specific food for bettas but you could always break the food up if it is too big.  Feed nothing else for 2 weeks.
After 4 days change 50% of the water and re-treat with the Maracyn II  You can also re-add epsoms salts.
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Re: Betta Velvet! UPDATED, HELP!! ~ URGENT!
« Reply #23 on: November 23, 2010, 08:49:07 PM »

Ok, thanks Minde. She's definitely having dropsy symptoms. She won't eat and her scales are really protruding. I'll see how I can raise the temperature!
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Re: Betta Velvet! UPDATED, HELP!! ~ URGENT!
« Reply #24 on: November 24, 2010, 02:39:40 AM »

Oh my, poor sweet Aria Sad wishing her well and you success in treating her ♥
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Re: Betta Velvet! UPDATED, HELP!! ~ URGENT!
« Reply #25 on: November 24, 2010, 12:40:49 PM »

That sounds pretty bad Undecided My, why are everyone getting dropsy lately! Even one of my children had it!
Either way, follow Minde's instructions, I have nothing more to offer. Please come up with a way to raise the temperature asap!! It's an important part of the treatment schedule!
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Re: Betta Velvet! UPDATED, HELP!! ~ URGENT!
« Reply #26 on: November 24, 2010, 04:38:38 PM »

alright Nossie, I'll see if I can move Aria to a warmer spot and make the water changes warm
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Re: Betta Velvet! UPDATED, HELP!! ~ URGENT!
« Reply #27 on: November 24, 2010, 05:09:48 PM »

OMG, not another case of dropsy  Cry Hope she'll recover, as you noticed it in earlier stages
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Re: Betta Velvet! UPDATED, HELP!! ~ URGENT!
« Reply #28 on: November 24, 2010, 10:38:42 PM »

thanks Hanna!  Smiley
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Re: Betta Velvet! UPDATED, HELP!! ~ URGENT!
« Reply #29 on: November 25, 2010, 11:57:28 PM »

Important Update!!!

So I placed Jubilee's hospital tank in the laundry room. It's the warmest place in the house and I will be doing daily warm water changes. Tomorrow I will be going to PetCo I think and I'll see if I can pick up anything.

Urgent - Jubilee is REALLY bloated! Her scales aren't getting too far out so far but she looks like she will burst! I've read somewhere that you can take the liquid out of the bloated stomach with a syringe needle, but I'm afraid to do that. Is there another way? Any suggestions?
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