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maccy_g
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Breeding Or Bullying?
« on: May 18, 2010, 01:44:18 PM »

Hi everyone,

My girlfriend and I have a 215l tank which we purchased some time ago which now houses 3x Orandas (A Redcap, A Blue and a Red) and they have been happily living together in the tank for almost a month now with no problems.

I have no idea of their age but they were purchased from a LFS and are approximately 1" - 1.5" in length now so still very small for Orandas, so I would assume they're relatively young.

My girlfriend was in a frenzied panic this morning as she noticed the Redcap Oranda darting around the tank, chasing the Blue Oranda relentlessly and in her words "sticking his nose up it's bum". I took a look myself and sure enough this is eactly what's happening and this is very out of character as they have been very docile up until now and not aggressive to each other at all. She was quite upset by this as the Blue looks exhausted and to make matters worse the Red Oranda has also joined in with the chasing as well, although not to the same extent as the Redcap.

My instincts tell me they are breeding, as no fin-nipping is taking place, just nudging & chasing (albeit rather fast & aggressive) and I've told my gf not to worry and that's it's just nature taking it's course - the Blue's belly also looks rather podgy so the clues are definately pointing to breeding I think.

Does it sound like breeding to you guys? I didn't actually think they would be mature enough yet but perhaps I'm wrong. And if they ARE breeding, is it going to be a problem long-term keeping what appears to be 2x males with 1x female? Will their relentless attempts to mate exhaust her and possibly kill her? And what about competition for the female between 2x males?

The tank has around 4 plants and I'm running an Eheim Classic 2217 filter.
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Nossie
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Re: Breeding Or Bullying?
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2010, 03:14:00 PM »

The tank can't possibly be too small... and since it doesn't look like they're trying to hurt eachother, I think breeding would be the only possibility left! But since your fish are so small still I doubt they are sexually mature. Although, this is my only guess, wait and see what other's have to say (:

I do think that it could be hard on your female to live with two males, but goldfish aren't breeding that often, so just wait and see (: (Often here being compared to guppies or other livebearers for example)
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Re: Breeding Or Bullying?
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2010, 10:11:00 AM »

It does sound like breedig to me.  Be sure that your tank has a strong cover, as males are sometimes known to chase females right out of the water.
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« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2010, 12:59:44 PM »

Spring is in the air Cheesy...It also sounds like breeeding to me.  I don't think keeping 2 males with 1 female will be a problem since even same gender fish will participate in the spawning chase.
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« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2010, 07:24:38 PM »

Thats breeding! The males are wanting to be the one to fertilize the eggs your female is carrying. Its a spring routine, adn your fish are showing they are sexually mature adn that the water is right for them to breed. Congratulations Smiley If you do not want eggs, put the female in a different tank so she can lay and not have them fertilized. otherwise, leave your fish be and soon you may have several little fishies swimming around Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2010, 03:55:57 AM »

...or just let her lay the eggs in the main tank and the fish will eat the eggs themselves Wink
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« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2010, 04:38:04 AM »

Would be nice to have new babies hatching Cheesy
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« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2010, 11:00:03 AM »

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm caviar... lol Actually I hate fish eggs.. I hate anything raw. I prefer things deep fried XD mmm
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« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2010, 12:40:56 PM »

Kaviar is the best! O__O But I guess I'm pretty used to eating seafood allover as I live by the coast and my grandpa is fishing a lot d:
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« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2010, 12:49:27 PM »

I love seafood, but its expensive here Sad
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« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2010, 06:30:01 PM »

reasonable price here by the coast, too, we love to go and buy fresh from the local fisheries when the boats come in, lovely giant king prawns. We eat them with thick white bread and butter, swiss cheese and spring onions. towards it a lovely cool bubbly  Tongue
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« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2010, 07:19:52 PM »

aw MAN! I love prawns!!! and shrimps! and scallops! mmmmm... seafood...... Im so hungry, but IM having soup for supper! was gonna have risotto with shrimps! Sad but I have no cooking wine Sad
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« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2010, 08:33:12 PM »

Awww, Hanna I am drooling you are making me hungry!!!
I love seafood too!
The only think I cannot eat is oysters they make me violently sick. Lips sealed
Very weird since I can eat everything else just fine! Undecided
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« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2010, 08:45:23 PM »

it might be texture. I hate oysters too XD
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« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2010, 07:42:07 AM »

I don't like raw oysters either they slip down without swallowing and taste like nothing.
But oysters on the BBQ with nice dressing and spices, well... not too bad Roll Eyes
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« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2010, 11:02:51 AM »

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm bbq
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Re: Breeding Or Bullying?
« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2010, 06:27:26 AM »

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Hi everyone,

My girlfriend and I have a 215l tank which we purchased some time ago which now houses 3x Orandas (A Redcap, A Blue and a Red) and they have been happily living together in the tank for almost a month now with no problems.

I have no idea of their age but they were purchased from a LFS and are approximately 1" - 1.5" in length now so still very small for Orandas, so I would assume they're relatively young.

My girlfriend was in a frenzied panic this morning as she noticed the Redcap Oranda darting around the tank, chasing the Blue Oranda relentlessly and in her words "sticking his nose up it's bum". I took a look myself and sure enough this is eactly what's happening and this is very out of character as they have been very docile up until now and not aggressive to each other at all. She was quite upset by this as the Blue looks exhausted and to make matters worse the Red Oranda has also joined in with the chasing as well, although not to the same extent as the Redcap.

My instincts tell me they are breeding, as no fin-nipping is taking place, just nudging & chasing (albeit rather fast & aggressive) and I've told my gf not to worry and that's it's just nature taking it's course - the Blue's belly also looks rather podgy so the clues are definately pointing to breeding I think.

Does it sound like breeding to you guys? I didn't actually think they would be mature enough yet but perhaps I'm wrong. And if they ARE breeding, is it going to be a problem long-term keeping what appears to be 2x males with 1x female? Will their relentless attempts to mate exhaust her and possibly kill her? And what about competition for the female between 2x males?

The tank has around 4 plants and I'm running an Eheim Classic 2217 filter.
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Re: Breeding Or Bullying?
« Reply #17 on: August 23, 2011, 07:52:37 PM »

Where I live nowhere is far from the coast but seafood is still expensive because we are so Isolated and it is a dairy nation so meat is much cheaper. Saying that, you cant go 4 blocks without finding a fush n chups store Tongue. there are 4 within easy walking distance of my house
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« Reply #18 on: August 23, 2011, 11:28:32 PM »

fush n chups, lol  Grin  Cheesy ...
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« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2011, 06:24:08 AM »

Where I live there are about 5 Italian restaraunts and 2 wing restaraunts within a 10 mile radius.
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« Reply #20 on: August 24, 2011, 02:35:01 PM »

There are no places here where they serve awesome seafood Sad There's that one Sushi restaurant, but that's closed for repairs now! O__O
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