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beericus
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Bubble/Blister on Ryukin Tail
« on: July 20, 2010, 09:00:51 PM »

Hello, new guy here. Love the site.  Grin

I have a Ryukin and i just noticed he has a bubble at the V of his tail.

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Any Ideas what the heck that is?
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beericus
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Re: Bubble/Blister on Ryukin Tail
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2010, 09:34:14 PM »

its kind of like a sack, and it jiggles around when he swims. he is also eating and acting normal.
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Re: Bubble/Blister on Ryukin Tail
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2010, 04:33:57 AM »

I haven't seen this before o__o But if I were you, I would treat your fish with some salt and melafix for starters and see how it goes Smiley And before you do that, you need to test your water to be sure that it's perfect! Then do a 50% water change before adding the meds Smiley This will allow your tank to stay in peace while the meds are working Smiley And if you'll have to do a water change, make sure to add more medicine to keep the levels even! Remember to test the water every day while your fish is sick!

Good luck Smiley
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Re: Bubble/Blister on Ryukin Tail
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2010, 06:41:42 AM »

Looks like a human blister, may be a bit far fetched but is there any he could have burnt him self? Or got his tail caught in something? I really don't know, never seen it before like Nossie. I agree with how she said to treat it Smiley Bet melafix will fix the problem as long as the water quality is also sorted.
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Re: Bubble/Blister on Ryukin Tail
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2010, 11:54:28 AM »

Thanks, i will do the water change tonight. It was hard getting a picture of the blister, because all of the other jokers kept jumping in front of the camera.  Fish Paparazzi.

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Re: Bubble/Blister on Ryukin Tail
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2010, 12:00:12 PM »

How old is your Ryukin?
I've never see nor read about his condition either.
Very puzzling.  He looks very healthy.  Wonder if it is some weird kind of genetic mutation? Undecided
How long has he had the blistery growth?
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Re: Bubble/Blister on Ryukin Tail
« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2010, 01:26:51 PM »

The Ryukin is probably about two years old now. I just noticed it last night. I have been on the look out for some Panda Oranda's  and i finally found some cool looking Orandas two nights ago. They are black and tan. Never saw that type of coloring before. So i bought them and put them in the tank and thats when i noticed the bubble.

He seems fine, he has not swim bladder symptoms, he eats and poops like a champ. But that Bubble cant be good.

Another question, some of my fish are changing colors. For instance, this Ryukin was mostly red. Now he is mostly black. I have a gorgeous big black moore, that is now black and red. What the heck is that about? 
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Re: Bubble/Blister on Ryukin Tail
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2010, 01:49:19 PM »

Have you tested your water?
Sounds like it may be a water quality issue.
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Re: Bubble/Blister on Ryukin Tail
« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2010, 02:17:30 PM »

ya know i have had fish all of my life, and i have never tested the water ever. Thats totally new to me. I will try it though.
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Re: Bubble/Blister on Ryukin Tail
« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2010, 10:24:51 PM »

Ok so i tested the water  Sad

Nitrate ppm 80
Nitrite ppm .5
Total Hardness - Very hard ( Tongue)
Chlorine 0
Alkalinity ppm low 0
ph acidic.

So this is not good.  Whats next??? 
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Re: Bubble/Blister on Ryukin Tail
« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2010, 03:32:18 AM »

I see you didn't have anything for ammonia, but from what it seems so far... it's quite alarming already with the nitrates... you know it should be below 40, above this, it will start affecting the fish negatively Sad I'm wondering, what exactly is your pH? How acidic?
Since you didn't test your pH before, I won't know if your fish are used to having it acidic or if they will all be affected by a fluctuation in pH. Look at them and see if any of them start hovering by the surface or if they get milky skin. If not, your pH should be fine d:

Either way, you should change the water. Do a pretty big water change, around half and test the water again the day after. But I'm worried about your nitrite readings as well... I don't know if it's a good idea to make too big water change at this stage. Since it seems that your tank hasn't cycled properly, or there's simply too big biological load on your filter. Anyways, you should definitely change some of the water, because this might just end up making some of your other fish sick as well Sad

By the way, if the ryukin is turning black, it could mean that you have ammonia in the water that's burning his skin, but I wouldn't know until I'd see some test results d: Ammonia should ALWAYS be 0 in a cycled tank and to be safe for fish.

Just so you know, the most important parameters to keep track of are pH, ammonia, nitrite and nitrate Smiley So these are the ones we'll be asking for as they have the biggest impact on goldfish Wink
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Re: Bubble/Blister on Ryukin Tail
« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2010, 04:39:59 PM »

OK what about some chemicals to raise or lower the ph?

Also update on ryukin bubble. It has gotten smaller, and seems like it is going away. No black spots, no milky spots. All the fish seem healthy and fine. Weird. I will change about 10 gallons of water to night.
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Re: Bubble/Blister on Ryukin Tail
« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2010, 02:12:53 AM »

I wouldn't raise or lower the pH at this stage, IF the fish are adapted to it. It is worse for fish to be exposed to a fluctuation in pH. As Nosie mentioned: what is your pH?

Also please test the water for Ammonia too.
What kind of test kit do you have? Is it paper strips or test solution?

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Re: Bubble/Blister on Ryukin Tail
« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2010, 03:36:42 AM »

Good that your fish are alright Smiley Answer Hanna's and my questions please Grin
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Re: Bubble/Blister on Ryukin Tail
« Reply #14 on: August 09, 2010, 05:30:46 AM »

Tumor, old fish get them but occasionally young ones too. Not contagious.  Will grow to a size then remain as is.
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Re: Bubble/Blister on Ryukin Tail
« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2010, 02:59:59 PM »

^^ really?

So just to update you, my concerned fish fanatics. Water change, nitrate chemicals, water is crystal clear, testing good.

The "bubble" is still on the fishes tail, but he is acting totally normal, eating pooping, swiming around like normal
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Re: Bubble/Blister on Ryukin Tail
« Reply #16 on: August 12, 2010, 05:55:30 PM »

Hi beericus,
can you please post the readings, I mean the proper results instead of only "describing" the water quality.
Sometimes even crystal clear water does NOT mean everything is fine.
So please let us know:

Ammonia ? ppm
Nitrite ? ppm
Nitrate ? ppm
pH ?

I really like to see numbers instead of words like good, perfect, fine, acidic. The more facts, the better chances to help you Wink

And I'm asking again: do you use liquid tests or paper strips?
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Re: Bubble/Blister on Ryukin Tail
« Reply #17 on: July 08, 2014, 07:57:18 PM »

I have a faintail that has got a bubble just like the one your fish has. No one can tell me what it is she will get the bubble it will go away then it will come back she is almost a year old know she swims good eats good she is in a 50gal all by her self with 3 plastic plaints. If you ever find out what it is please let me know (Link is not visible to guests. Please register to view.)
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