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Wandafish
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Burns
« on: June 18, 2010, 09:25:27 AM »

I posted before wondering if my goldfish and ammonia burns but now it might be worse.  I got her from a fair where they probably didn't take very good care of her, but now we are frequently changing her water and taking care of her.  Her black spots have grown much darker and have appeared in some new spots.  I'm changing some of her water each day and do not know what's happening.  Are her markings getting darker because of better health or is she exposed to ammonia?   Undecided
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Re: Burns
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2010, 11:56:07 AM »

More than likely ammonia, and if its getting worse, then its a LOT of ammonia in the tank. How big is your tank? Please get a smaple of water and go to a petstore. Most of them will sample your water for free, and then you will know whats wrong more clearly. That is your best bet right now. I'd also do a 20% water change now every... three days? normally such a large amount should only be done once a week but.. if they are getting bigger then thats never never never a good thing. i cant offer much more, only get your water tested.

The reason I say get yoru water tested is it might also be pH. Highly acidic water is harmful to fish, will make them lethargic, and possibly burn them. so I cannot stress this enough: TEST YOUR WATER. If you cant afford a test kit then go to the petstore with maybe a cup of water. they should test everything in your water, and they will point out the best medication for you to use.

I'd like to know also: How big is your tank, how big is your filter, do you have an airstone running. These three actually do help in keeping your tank healthy. Please please please please please respond quickly. I fear for your fishes well being, as im sure you do too.

~Kat
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Re: Burns
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2010, 01:41:05 PM »

It could be that she's just healing from previous wounds. Fish use to get small black areas where they are healing from, well, water quality problems, physical damage, scars from parasites etc etc.
It would be easier for you to know when to change the water and how much if you'd get yourself a test kit. It's incredibly useful when keeping fish if you want them to thrive. Remember to also give the beneficial bacteria in the tank time to establish, so don't clean out the filters/gravel too often! And don't change too much of water at a time.
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Re: Burns
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2010, 09:07:28 PM »

I didnt think of that. really? black marks from healing?? somehow that doesnt seem normal, but what do I know? anyway, id still like to know all possible things, maybe we can get a better picture of whats going on
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Re: Burns
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2010, 09:16:20 PM »

I still think adding aquarium salt to your fishes water and a water condtioner along with some Melafix would be appropriate in encouraging healing.  Carnival fish are kept in poluted containers waiting to be won.  They are feeder fish and not very healthy to begin with.  Your fish needs a bigger container than a bowl.  I hope you were able to purchase a bigger tank for him. Smiley
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Re: Burns
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2010, 09:55:08 PM »

I THOUGHT it was a bowl. and thats never good.


it actually makes me wonder how Sonorus survived...
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Re: Burns
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2010, 03:14:36 AM »

Kat: Yep, I've seen those healing things myself (: My little berry had some damaged fins when I got her home, and only where some small pieces were missing, there were these thin, black edge along. Either way, as I've mentioned before, the healing phenomenon is called melanophore migration. Where the black pigment cells (melanophores) are responding to leukine, which is a chemical that's produced by the fish that attracts and stimulates fibroblasts, the primary cells that repair and replace tissue that has been damaged.
This happens for example when a fish is healing from skin burns because of too strong medications, water quality problems, or from some sort of physical damage that may have wounded the skin or the fins of the fish. But it's always good to check the water quality often while your fish is showing this, since it would only help the healing process if the water's good, logical, right? Wink
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Re: Burns
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2010, 11:13:02 AM »

Very. That makes sense, I just didnt know. I thought if there were more appearing, and they were getting bigger, that it wasnt a good sign. and how come she hasnt come back to respond to any of this? It really gets my going how, when they ask a question, they dont come back and say "Ill try that" you know? its like they ask questions and then it doesnt matter what you say, as long as you say something X(
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Re: Burns
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2010, 02:02:14 PM »

I know! It's kinda' frustrating d: Maybe they notice that it doesn't matter that much after all, or that the fish died already... or something.
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Re: Burns
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2010, 03:14:45 PM »

thats so sad... people should learn about fish first Tongue
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Re: Burns
« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2010, 03:21:03 PM »

Totally! It kinda' sucks that they think that as soon as a fish seems sick you should either let it die, or dose the tank full of some random medication. Lol, they don't give a crap that the water may be bad or something about as easy as a water change would help xD
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Re: Burns
« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2010, 08:14:14 PM »

Sad to think things like this DO happen.
I worry my heart out as soon as sth is not quite normal
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Re: Burns
« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2010, 04:12:32 AM »

I knooww... and imagine the poor fish in schools, or on other public places. How bothered they must be when some kids are hitting the tank walls to make them swim faster and all that jazz. It really annoys me. At least in the train station in Helsinki they've added a sign saying "Do not disturb the fish". It's such a beautiful tank there! Like 400 liters at the least, and it's full of beautiful tropical tetras and catfish and the like <3 From the Amazon I reckon.
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Re: Burns
« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2010, 04:30:30 AM »

Your train stations have fish tanks??? How beautiful Smiley **** crappy Sydney train stations suck.
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Re: Burns
« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2010, 05:31:14 AM »

AW Nossie, would like to see those aquariums.... Roll Eyes
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Re: Burns
« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2010, 12:05:58 PM »

Fish in train stations?  That's really nice.  It would never work in America- people here are so mean and disrespectful. 
There's a Greek restraunt in town with a little fishtank, and our local hospital has some tropical freshwater fish in the emergency room.  Other than that, you don't see fish as much anymore.  It's a pity- they're so relaxing.  Sometimes when we go to the zoo and the big tropical fishtank isn't too crowded, I like to sit and just watch.  I also like some of the YouTube videos, but it's just not the same. Sad
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Re: Burns
« Reply #16 on: June 20, 2010, 01:03:04 PM »

I've only seen one station with a tank in... but from what I've noticed the times I've been there, the people seem to either don't care about the fish, or simply watch them peacefully Smiley That's pretty nice, I think Smiley
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Re: Burns
« Reply #17 on: June 20, 2010, 07:35:15 PM »

Which reminds me, I need to upload some more vids of Tiger and Sonorus just swimming around... Tongue put in some chillin music... yea... Tongue
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Re: Burns
« Reply #18 on: June 21, 2010, 03:23:07 AM »

That'd be cool c: I should try and make some later when my fishes have grown bigger, because filming them in that monster tank while they're this small... xD You wouldn't see anything but dots swimming about xD (Yay for zoom, but I bet they'd just run away from the point of focus.)
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Re: Burns
« Reply #19 on: June 21, 2010, 04:43:19 AM »

I love my fish ffor taking pics and movies, they are always showing off ahahahaha
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