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BeckyBeau
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First time with fish
« on: July 06, 2010, 04:55:20 AM »

Hi there. i'm about to be a freshman in college and since i'm not allowed to take my two turtles to school with me i was thinking about getting a goldfish, but i don't really know anything about them. I need one that will be easy to care for and I know i won't have time to test water everyday. Also my college won't let us have anything larger than a 5 gallon tank. What would be the best kind of goldfish for me to get?
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BeckyBeau
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Re: First time with fish
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2010, 04:59:16 AM »

also i like the ranchu goldfish a lot but how hard would it be to take care of in my instance?
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Re: First time with fish
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2010, 05:21:16 AM »

hey becky Cheesy

welcome to the land of the goldfish haha there are so many to choose from with regards to type of fish but if you can only have such a small space i would recomend a betta. really easy to look after, tons of colours to choose from too. normal goldfish need at least 10gallons per fish, so a 5 gallon would drive it nuts. with regards to a ranchu they need room to swim. like most goldfish it can grow to 12inches long (if given the right care, food and home etc) if you were to pick a normal goldfish or a fancy, they need 10 gallon per fish, a air pump, filter, and company (they hate being on their own) minimum! the nice things with betta if you can afford a air pump right away they can breathe at the surface (unlike goldfish who get their air from the water)

ahhhh long bit there. are you sure you can smuggle a 10 gallon tank in, doubt anyone would know the difference or even a 20gallon Cheesy haha

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Hanna
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Re: First time with fish
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2010, 05:41:52 AM »

Hello Becky,

Welcome to our community.
Well, Katie already mentioned: Goldfish need at least a 10 gallon tank to be happy and they also need lots, lots of care.
Therefore I agree with Katie. Get yourself a lovely Siamese Fighter. They are cute too, beautiful colours, you can choose iridescent blue, green-blue, red, purple, turquoise. The males do have lovely long fins. But you can keep only ONE male.

(if you would keep 2 males they would fight each other until one dies)

It is easy to care for the Betta. Best thing to do: visit your local pet shop. Have a good look how clean the tanks are. You should see only happy and healthy fish. Be aware that the shop should smell nice... not a rotten, dirty smell . And read up about the Betta fish on the internet.

You like to keep goldfish too, well... if you do have lots of time to test waterquality, to look after them at home, Welcome, we help you on here to give it the best care.

Let us know which way you like to go  Wink
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BeckyBeau
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Re: First time with fish
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2010, 05:49:47 AM »

i really am not a big betta fan, i might be able to pull off a 10 gallon (i'm a sneaky one) and i have an air pump and filter i got from my grandma after she decided not to keep fish anymore, i do worry about being able to test the water tho, how often does it have to be done? Again, not big on bettas, i had them when i was little and they just kind of bored me, but i know goldfish have their own distinct personalities, like my turtles.
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Re: First time with fish
« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2010, 06:06:23 AM »

well, you'd need to do a water change with goldfish once a week (only between 5-10% of the water) so generally i test once my water has had time to settle. you'de need tap conditioner and some cycle start to begin with to get your good bacteria happy and to remove any chemicals from the water. if you do go with a goldy 10 will only be big enough for 1 fish and your problem is that goldfish love company, so keeping one on their own would be a tad mean. . . its difficult to know what to say for the best. if your not a betta fan and are def wanting a goldy then there is a lot more to think about  Wink
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Hanna
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Re: First time with fish
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2010, 06:11:39 AM »

Yes, goldfish are very social fish, they would be bored being by themselves.  ( it would be for them like you being allone ALL the time... )
What about tetras, or guppies, or swordfish... there are so many to chose from....you also can create a community tank with different tropicals, but you need to know which ones are compatible with each other
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Re: First time with fish
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2010, 12:49:40 PM »

screw the school get a ten or 20 how often do they check on dorm rooms anyway with the amount of rent u are paying do it

i only check my water 1 maybe 2 times a month u can get strips that will only take 1 min to test the water

u can get away with changing water every 2 weeks 2 as long as u do a bigger water change
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Re: First time with fish
« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2010, 04:11:47 PM »

Oh, and check with the school just to make sure it's all good.  My college won't even allow fish.
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Re: First time with fish
« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2010, 04:18:11 PM »

You should test the water once a week BEFORE every water change, to determine how much you need to change at a time Smiley It'd be alright to just test the pH and nitrates when your tank is cycled.

But before you get your fish, it would be great if you'd let your tank cycle in peace for about a week or two. During this time you could test the ammonia values every other day (every single day if you have a fish there from the start) just to make sure nature's running its course Smiley It's good to have a nitrite test available too, so you can check for that once the ammonia starts going away.
And if you keep your fish in the tank from the start, you have to change 10% every day to make sure that the fish won't be poisoned.
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BeckyBeau
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Re: First time with fish
« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2010, 08:33:11 PM »

ok, y'all keep saying cycling the tank. What exactly does that mean? And yea i'm sure they allow fish, just no turtles, at all, period.  Embarrassed How about the guppies and tetras how much room do they need?
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Re: First time with fish
« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2010, 09:05:51 PM »

"Cycling" means letting the tank run for a period of time (1-2 weeks) to allow the nitrogen cycle to set up.  The nitrogen cycle is a series of biochemical reactions that keep waste products from building up and poisoning your fish.  The best way to let a tank cycle is to put in your treated water, gravel, decorations, and some live plants, set up your filter, and (if you can get it) put some benificial bacteria in the gravel and filter.  I reccomend Nite Out- it's a liquid containing helpful tank bacteria (you'll need a teaspoon to measure it).  Then let the tank run for about a week or two with no fish and test the water using an ammonia, nitrate, and nitrite test kit.  If you need more information on cycling, your pet store may have a pamphlet or a book on fish care to help you.
For most tropicals, the rule is one gallon per inch of fish (goldfish need more).  So I'd say that would work for guppies and tetras.  You might also need a small tank heater.  When in doubt, ask the people at the store for their reccomendations.
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Re: First time with fish
« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2010, 03:21:54 AM »

We plan to keep in the 34 l tank ( Humpsis and Hepsis old home ) about 7-8 neon tetras, with them one betta and 2 small catfish.
We will need a small heater to keep the temp at 26/27 degrees Celsius, and the UG filter we already used in there. Nice plants for them to hide and a dark substrate.
So 34 l is not quite 10 gallon.
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Re: First time with fish
« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2010, 05:51:29 AM »

What sort of catfish? I'm still considering what to do with my tank once Sunshine moves on to bigger and better things (which may be sooner than expected) and I'm trying to figure out what I should put in the tank. It is 22L so a bit smaller than yours and I do want to keep it personal with one or two fish. Not sure if I can fit two in there though. So I was thinking a betta or paradise fish (not both!!) and maybe something else like a quiet little catfish. So maybe you have some advice, Hanna Smiley
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Re: First time with fish
« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2010, 07:02:01 AM »

It should be a catfish which stays small, I will investigate more at the petshop and will let you know  Wink
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Andrea
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Re: First time with fish
« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2010, 06:00:19 AM »

Thankyouuu Smiley
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