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ILoveFish19
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Can Goldfish go in a tank with diffrent Goldfish?
« on: September 30, 2010, 06:27:53 PM »

Like, Bubble eyed fish & the other diffrent Goldfishes? Because I really like the bubble eyed ones there so so cute!
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Andrea
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Re: Can Goldfish go in a tank with diffrent Goldfish?
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2010, 07:54:16 PM »

Bubble eyed goldfish can go in a tank with other slow moving goldfish such as Black moors, Ranchus, celestial, pearlscales, etc. Just definitely not comets, shubunkins, commons or even fantails. These goldfish are much to fast for them and would steal all the food, plus they may be too rough for a bubble eyed goldfish whose puffed up cheeks can burst.

I seriously wouldn't recommend one of these for a beginner. I see the attraction you have for them as I was asking about them a few months ago. But they need alot of care and you need to be extremely careful with them. You would have to have no decorations in your tank and even gravel can be a problem as said their bubbles can easily burst and that wouldn't be good.

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Maybe you could stick with some easier goldfish to look after such as comets & shubunkins until you get more experience. These types are alot more hardy but just as enjoyable Smiley
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Re: Can Goldfish go in a tank with diffrent Goldfish?
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2010, 02:55:12 AM »

I agree with Andrea. I have bad experiance with buble, hard to keep and need more2 your attention. 
Now, i dont want keep this type gf anymore.
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Hanna
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Re: Can Goldfish go in a tank with diffrent Goldfish?
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2010, 03:01:41 AM »

I read the same about bubble eye, they are very difficult to keep. you can see the bubble looks more or less like a blister and is very sensitive.
As Andrea said, no decorations, no sharp edges, etc.

IMO - I prefer the robust varieties because they are "made by nature" not bred by humans to achieve all those "not natural" features like bubble eye, celestial eye, etc   Undecided
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Re: Can Goldfish go in a tank with diffrent Goldfish?
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2010, 01:47:43 PM »

Gotta tell you there, that bubble eyes, celestials and even pearl scales to some extent (Orandas if I'm really hardcore) should be avoided by anyone that hasn't kept fish "properly" before. (Properly=A full tank setup with proper filtration etc.), not to mention that it would be the best to have kept goldfish before as well.
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Fancy goldfish NEED a varied diet and good water quality, or they will get problems with their deformed swim bladder. While celestials, telescope eyes and bubble eyes can get various infections in their eyes if you're not careful and observant.

My answer is a definite NO, no matter what excuses you may have.
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Andrea
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Re: Can Goldfish go in a tank with diffrent Goldfish?
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2010, 10:41:20 PM »

I love those sort of fish but I don't think I'll ever own one or at least not for many years. You really do need alot of experience and you really need to do alot of research on those actual types of goldfish, not just on the internet either Tongue Same with Oranda's too.

I wonder if they even have the same life span as say a comet or even a black moor, seeing as they are so 'fake' (for a lack of a better word).
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Nossie
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Re: Can Goldfish go in a tank with diffrent Goldfish?
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2010, 02:46:07 AM »

Andrea: No, I haven't heard of a bubble eye living very long.. not to mention that they stay pretty small.
I also forgot to mention that bubble eyes and celestials are usually dwelling on the bottom of the tank due to their eyesight, and you can't have too strong light when keeping them as it would hurt their eyes.

I would really avoid such over-bred varieties.
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Andrea
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Re: Can Goldfish go in a tank with diffrent Goldfish?
« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2010, 03:15:17 AM »

Hmm don't think I will ever get one then. I feel sorry for them as I bet alot of newbies get them seeing as they are so cute and interesting, bet they don't last long Sad

Is it the same with pearlscales? Do you think they have shorter life spans? I want my next tank to have a black moor, a ranchu, a black and white butterfly and a pearlscale. Maybe a fantail too. I'm talking years down the track, probably when I move out of home and I'm all established.
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Re: Can Goldfish go in a tank with diffrent Goldfish?
« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2010, 10:05:44 AM »

I do think bubble eyes are pretty cute (in their own way) but I kind of feel sorry for them. They've been bred to be disfigured, in a way. Not only do they have eyes perminantly turned upwards with huge fluid sacks underneath but they also lack a dorsal fin. Who can blame them for having trouble swimming? I think the common case with those fish is some new fish owner falling for one, bringing it home, and finding out it's nothing but trouble (trouble in a cute package), then giving it away or selling it if it hasn't died by the first week from having it's needs not met properly. Inexperienced fish owners should NEVER attempt to start out with a hard-level fish. It always leads to trouble...Fantails and comets/common goldfish are usually best for a beginner. Fantails are pretty hardy and have endured a lot of abuse through the years, but they're pretty tough for being a fancy. Comets and common goldfish can sometimes prove impossible to kill, and thus are more suited to "train" the fish keeper. Cheesy
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Re: Can Goldfish go in a tank with diffrent Goldfish?
« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2010, 10:23:51 AM »

Andrea: I have a feeling that pearlscales live a tad longer than celestials and bubble eyes, maybe it's because they look bigger and stronger than the latter? I wouldn't know d:
Anyway, pearlscales are even rounder than an Oranda, and so it's even more important with a varied diet for these fish! And you also need to make sure that there's nothing in the tank that will scratch the scales off, as they are quite sensitive. When the scales grow back, they'll be flat, leaving the fish rather "uneven".

And if I was you, I'd actually be a bit careful with combining so many different fancy fish! And if possible, don't put fantails with these, because the others all have something slowing them down (if it's not bad eyesight, it's more "severely" deformed bodies), so if you have only two fantails or something, they'll be gobbling up food for a whole tank, and probably get really sick :/ That's why it's better not to keep a common with a few eggshaped fish either, it's the same outcome.
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Andrea
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Re: Can Goldfish go in a tank with diffrent Goldfish?
« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2010, 05:12:04 AM »

What goldfish should I take out of my future tank? Is the pearlscale the main problem? As the black moor and butterfly are almost exactly the same. The Ranchu could also be a problem I imagine. Also I don't mean this in a angry way like omg how can you and I can't but you have fantails in with alot of egg shaped fish, don't you? Is everything fine? I just wanna learn as much as possible Smiley I wouldn't want overweight fantails and starving Ranchu's and Black Moors'.
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Re: Can Goldfish go in a tank with diffrent Goldfish?
« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2010, 09:18:48 AM »

I'd say the moor and the butterfly are perfect together Smiley And the pearlscale will be a bit slower to swim than orandas and fantails, so they should be okay Smiley I imagine that ranchus are quite slow swimmers as well, so they'll all be a happy slow-swimming family d:
Now, I'm not quite saying that you're not allowed to keep fantails with these, but like I said, they'll most likely get first to the feeding corner and gobble up an unhealthy amount of food.

Only "problem" in my tank would be the moors, all the others are really on the same level when it comes to swimming, speed-wise. The fantails are egg-shaped fish as well, and are slower than commons and comets due to their split and long tails. But what I mean is that the rest of the fish, like mentioned are quite slow compared to a fantail due to their round bodies, missing fins or bad eye-sight Smiley I have to say that I'm a bit worried about Mr. Popo, being one of the smallest fish and a moor on top of that |': He does get much less food than the others, but I always wait with giving them all the food until he reaches the "feeding corner". So he does get at least 2 pellets, but I'm still worried that he might not be getting enough. Mr. Big on the other hand seems more used to competing for food since he was living with a big fantail and a common before.
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Andrea
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Re: Can Goldfish go in a tank with diffrent Goldfish?
« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2010, 05:02:06 AM »

I totally understand about the fantails, the greediest fish I ever owned was a fantail. I bet he would have even made Sunshine lose a bit of weight. Mr. Popo is lucky he has you, I know I have alot of research to do until I get my fancy goldfish tank. I might skip on the fantails or keep them in a separate tank, they are lovely fish Smiley Thanks Nossie.
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Re: Can Goldfish go in a tank with diffrent Goldfish?
« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2010, 07:02:22 AM »

No problem! Smiley I noticed that he's getting more food than usual lately! Cheesy Seems that he's slowly but surely getting used to things Smiley
Maybe that's why he didn't grow much earlier, since fish simply stop growing until they'll be getting more food again and then regain their normal growth rate c:
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Re: Can Goldfish go in a tank with diffrent Goldfish?
« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2010, 10:53:32 PM »

I don't understand are you asking if goldfish can go in with the picture of the fish because those are ciclids and they are very aggressive not to mention that they are also freshwater tropicals and need a heater.  Ok I'm confused Huh Huh Huh
Do you already have ciclids and want to add fancy goldies??
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