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Nossie
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Re: Ailing fish
« Reply #30 on: July 07, 2011, 12:48:06 PM »

Bob: If the pH stays high on its own, leave it be, goldfish don't have any problems with pH up until 8.5 (some even thrive in that). But they do have a problem if it's bouncing up and down, like you said, you're trying to get it down, but the next day it's high again. Try to avoid that!
You can check on the package of the medications if they're supposed to affect the pH. If you're using a mineral salt instead of a medical salt, that could be the problem too. Mineral salts are designed for Cichlid tanks, to raise the hardness and pH of the water.

Most tank lights are fluorescent, so that won't be a problem Smiley As long as you keep the lights off during nights so the fish can rest!
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Re: Ailing fish
« Reply #31 on: July 08, 2011, 01:37:18 PM »

The reason your ph is getting a bit high might also be due to the baking soda, if you still have that in there. It's known to raise the ph occasionally, and if your ph level is spiking and falling like Nossie was talking about then I would suggest to stop replacing it when you do water changes so it will gradually get out of there if you are worried about it. Smiley
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Re: Ailing fish
« Reply #32 on: July 08, 2011, 09:22:53 PM »

Thanks, everyone. I bought a heater yesterday  Grin to warm their toes in the holding tank. Seems to be taking a long time to warm up, though. What is the ideal temp I should be looking at?
The Ph is still high but I will let it go for now. I added a small amount of salt and anti-fungus juice yesterday. The patches remain on one fish's dorsal but I think they are disappearing from his body; and the other fish still has some on his tail. How long can it take to be rid of this pesky thing?
Have a great day.  Wink
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Re: Ailing fish
« Reply #33 on: July 08, 2011, 09:34:13 PM »

 Wink Ron, I have one of those plants and it is doing well, except that the tips become frayed and brown. I don't know exactly what the Ph is: I only have a basic kit and go by the colour. It is metallic  Huh blue in the holding tank but adding 'Ph Down' probably defeats the purpose of the carb soda  Huh I'm changing about 20% water each day.
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Re: Ailing fish
« Reply #34 on: July 09, 2011, 04:20:11 AM »

Ideal temp for goldfish is ranging between 20-26 degrees Smiley They will survive in far colder temps, but surviving doesn't mean "thriving" Tongue

A week at least is pretty common for more fierce infections, but just keep treating until all the symptoms are gone!
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Re: Ailing fish
« Reply #35 on: July 09, 2011, 07:33:02 AM »

Nossie, you're a hero.  Cool
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Re: Ailing fish
« Reply #36 on: July 09, 2011, 07:50:40 AM »

BigBob: LOVE your avatar!
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Re: Ailing fish
« Reply #37 on: July 09, 2011, 07:55:29 AM »

 Roll Eyes Thanks Nicole. It's either the little bloke's alter ego , or he's aware of a **** cat somewhere nearby. Smart fish.
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Re: Ailing fish
« Reply #38 on: July 09, 2011, 01:40:36 PM »

Why thank you! Wink Lol, hope it's not just because my status says so xD

I do agree with Nicole, the avatar is adorable Cheesy
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Re: Ailing fish
« Reply #39 on: July 09, 2011, 09:54:07 PM »

Sounds like your fish are recovering slowly but surely. Good luck, BigBob  Wink And yes, cute avatar...that's my fantail's personality completely!  Cheesy
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Re: Ailing fish
« Reply #40 on: July 10, 2011, 12:52:40 AM »

This may appear twice! I pressed 'post' but nothing happened. NOW I have to remember what I wrote.  Undecided

I'm not sure that there is much improvement this morning but I changed some water and added a teaspoon of salt and some anti-fungus juice. The intrepid duo duck into a far corner whenever I appear  Shocked but I see them swimming about a bit when they think they are alone. Grin They are not deteriorating.

Can someone suggest shade-loving plants for my pond? Right now, it receives 2-3 hours but the sun is just above the horizon. In summer, it will get 4-5 hours of direct (Australian!) sun. It's a killa! but I will rig up some kind of shade device if it comes to that. If I were a goldfish, I think I'd LIKE plenty of greenery around me, but I have mostly comets, 2 fantails, and a Black moor.

Otherwise, I'm looking at another (sigh) wet, cold, and miserable Melbourne day.  Cry I hope you are all enjoying better weather!  Smiley
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Re: Ailing fish
« Reply #41 on: July 10, 2011, 05:45:31 AM »

Oh sorry, can't help much on the pond-plant front! :'D But umm... waterlilies?

We had rain and some thunder yesterday, but it's a sparkling sunny day again Cheesy I'll go on a little biking trip later Smiley
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Re: Ailing fish
« Reply #42 on: July 11, 2011, 07:11:08 AM »

hey Bob I was wondering if you have a botanical garden in Melb, we have one here, you can sometimes see what works for them in there ponds, and they have the botanical names as well... also some specialist garden centres and nurseries here deal in pond plants, you might be able to find some there and get their help and advice... one more thing that may look nice in your pond is the common reed you find growing in some lagoons and creeks etc as well as along the Murray River. I had some spring up in some peat moss blocks I bought for the garden, I put them in a pot (with a wide base otherwise they blow over) and submerged them in the pond like you do waterlillies, they grow about 3 feet straight out of the water and they add to the overall theme and the fish seem to like picking at and sucking on them ... because of their slender straight tapering form, you sometimes see interior decorators paint the stems and use them in vases...  Regards > Ron
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« Reply #43 on: July 12, 2011, 08:29:12 PM »

 Shocked Good idea, Ron. Next time I'm in the city, I'll take a stroll through the gardens. ('Do we have botanic gardens'Huh??!!!!! Are you kidding me?? Shocked Only the most beautiful gardens in the southern, nay, in BOTH hemispheres, that's all. lol. We are 'the garden state' ya know  Cool.

Good news, though...my spotted friend is definitely improving after a week in the sin bin  Grin. His body is essentially clear and he has some residual gunk on his dorsal, but he is perky, up and about, and seems to be enjoying his holiday retreat  Wink.

I'm still changing 20% water each day and alternating anti-fungus and salt. Will keep them where they are until they are completely clear.

Thanks everyone  Cheesy.
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Re: Ailing fish
« Reply #44 on: July 13, 2011, 04:47:46 AM »

 Cheesy nice one Bob also thats great to hear about the fish,  Wink well done... and Melb does have a great climate for gardens, my garden here always looks it best at the end of winter beginning of spring, before the sun burns the sh*t out of it... cheers > Ron.
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Re: Ailing fish
« Reply #45 on: July 13, 2011, 09:55:27 AM »

 Grin Looking good, everyone! Brass monkey weather and raining, however, and I'm over it, to be brutally honest. This is for Eskimos  Roll Eyes.

Thanks again for your help. We could not have done it without you. You have been so generous that I might have to invent some topics so that we can keep in touch.  Grin

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Re: Ailing fish
« Reply #46 on: July 13, 2011, 10:51:20 AM »

Really great Smiley I'm so happy for you! Cheesy
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Re: Ailing fish
« Reply #47 on: July 13, 2011, 02:19:40 PM »

Wonderful news! It's really awesome that your fish pulled through.  Cheesy Happy fishkeeping!
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Re: Ailing fish
« Reply #48 on: July 14, 2011, 08:57:28 AM »

its nice to hear of a success... cheers Bob > ron
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Re: Ailing fish
« Reply #49 on: July 14, 2011, 10:10:55 AM »

  Grin 'Happy days are here again...'

They have become far more active in their little patch and might be right to rejoin their friends on the w/end. They, those in the pond, are not very active, however, and I'm putting that down to the cold weather. Would I be right, do you think?  Huh

Don't forget me.  Wink

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Re: Ailing fish
« Reply #50 on: July 15, 2011, 01:44:36 AM »

Yes, pond fish get less active when it's colder, they're cold-blooded animals so their body temperature follows the temp of their water. That's why they sort of go into a hibernation over winter, unless you keep them indoors Smiley
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