Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
October 31, 2014, 11:34:23 PM
Home Search Search Login Register

+  Pet Goldfish - Aquarium Forum Community
|-+  Aquarium
| |-+  Health and Illness
| | |-+  Chronic swim bladder?
« previous next »
Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 [6] 7
Author Topic: Chronic swim bladder?  (Read 6279 times)
Nossie
Hero Member
*****

Karma: 481
Posts: 5469



Re: Chronic swim bladder?
« Reply #150 on: November 28, 2010, 04:51:46 AM »

Our old-man fantail has a tumor on top of his right eye as well, it looks typically like lymphocystis, meaning that it'd be viral, so we can't really do anything about it. I thought about a small surgery on him, but I'd like to have some proper supplies first Smiley
He's not in pain because of it anyway.
Logged
ilovemygoldfish
Newbie
*

Karma: 0
Posts: 12


Re: Chronic swim bladder?
« Reply #151 on: November 30, 2010, 10:19:18 AM »

i lost myne from swim bladder i ddint no there was sumthing out there for it i miss myne fish terrible Sad r.i.p trixy
Logged
Goldiegirl
Sr. Member
****

Karma: 169
Posts: 766



Re: Chronic swim bladder?
« Reply #152 on: November 30, 2010, 09:56:58 PM »

Weird about the tumor Nossie! If it is bothering him I would recommend a surgery, however he seems alright so I guess it's not nessesary??? And for some reason Onyx's "tumor" went away completely over a time frame of 3 days.

ilovemygoldfish: Terribly sorry for your loss! Don't feel too bad about it though because it may have been a genetic disorder...I lost Topaz from it. No matter how many times he fasted, no matter how many peas he gorged himself on, his problem never improved. My deepest condolances for your loss.  Cry Your friend swims amung many of ours in the great sky-pond.

Today whilst meandering through the fish isle of Petsmart (they know me there by now) I spotted a lovely chocolate and white miniature of Amber in the oranda tank - likely a brother of his. Unfortunately, a persistant case of swim bladder had infected the beautiful thing, and he was unable to get away from the other fish who were determined to consume him. I resolved to return to the store in fifteen minutes and rescue him, but when I arrived again he was found dead on the bottom and being eaten up by the other fish.

I felt rather sick, seeing that gorgeous animal being devoured. Those fish were acting like a group of buzzards, feeding off of one of their own kind. If I had only acted sooner...but then reason reminded me that he may have been in the same state by the time I brought him home  Cry
Logged
Nossie
Hero Member
*****

Karma: 481
Posts: 5469



Re: Chronic swim bladder?
« Reply #153 on: December 01, 2010, 11:43:58 AM »

It's just on top of the eye, out of the way of the pupil, and no, he doesn't seem bothered, so... I think I'll leave it be, it's really small anyway Smiley

That's so sad!! D'x How terrible, really! Sad
Logged
Goldiegirl
Sr. Member
****

Karma: 169
Posts: 766



Re: Chronic swim bladder?
« Reply #154 on: December 01, 2010, 03:18:41 PM »

That's where Onyx's was! However it disappeared so I guess it took care of itself...hopefully yours will as well. <3

It was rather sad, but I guess that's how nature works...destroying those which are weaker than the rest of the bunch that they may not reproduce. I DO wish the people who worked there had taken him out though, instead of leaving him in to be torn to shreds (literally).
Logged
Nossie
Hero Member
*****

Karma: 481
Posts: 5469



Re: Chronic swim bladder?
« Reply #155 on: December 01, 2010, 03:41:49 PM »

Agreed :/

About the lump, I don't think it'll go away, he's had it for a couple of months now. For a while it was growing, but lately, nothing has changed at all Smiley He's a really old man Wink
Logged
Goldiegirl
Sr. Member
****

Karma: 169
Posts: 766



Re: Chronic swim bladder?
« Reply #156 on: December 01, 2010, 03:47:34 PM »

I really have no idea what one should do about such a thing...it seems as though it isn't bothering him, so I suppose just leave it be. At least it isn't on the eye itself, just on the "lid". How old is he, by the bye?
Logged
Nossie
Hero Member
*****

Karma: 481
Posts: 5469



Re: Chronic swim bladder?
« Reply #157 on: December 02, 2010, 09:36:54 AM »

He's about 8 years old by now actually Cheesy But I'm afraid he wasn't living in the best conditions some parts of his life as the tank was quite crowded Undecided He's had fin rot a couple of times too D:
But, still going strong, digging gravel like nuts Wink
Logged
Goldiegirl
Sr. Member
****

Karma: 169
Posts: 766



Re: Chronic swim bladder?
« Reply #158 on: December 05, 2010, 06:22:19 PM »

What a huge fish! I can't even imagine how big he'd look...all mine are under a year old, and quite miniature.
Logged
Nossie
Hero Member
*****

Karma: 481
Posts: 5469



Re: Chronic swim bladder?
« Reply #159 on: December 06, 2010, 04:34:41 AM »

I uploaded a photo of him here Smiley Here's the thread: (Link is not visible to guests. Please register to view.)

Like mentioned, he lives in a 100L with another fantail and some bristlenoses and black mollies Cheesy
Logged
Mindemae
Hero Member
*****

Karma: 256
Posts: 2458



Re: Chronic swim bladder?
« Reply #160 on: December 06, 2010, 09:19:14 AM »

i LOVE THAT FISH! hE'S GORGEOUS! Cheesy
Logged
Nossie
Hero Member
*****

Karma: 481
Posts: 5469



Re: Chronic swim bladder?
« Reply #161 on: December 06, 2010, 04:34:19 PM »

Why thanks! Smiley I really like him too! Smiley He was one of the very first goldfish we ever bought! Wink
Logged
Goldiegirl
Sr. Member
****

Karma: 169
Posts: 766



Re: Chronic swim bladder?
« Reply #162 on: December 12, 2010, 03:29:47 PM »

Lovely collection of priceless beauties you have there! Perhaps I shall introduce you to all my goldies as well...

Opal has not gasped or had swim bladder for a long time now, though a few blood vessels in the tail are dialated. That's usually signs of an ammonia problem, so I test the water but no issue. *scratches head*

Citrine however has been doing very poorly  Cry every morning before I feed I look in the tank and see her floating at the top of the tank unable to control her ability to rise and sink. She is not on her side or back fortunately, but it saddens me to see her acting so for such a long period of time. I feed peas to her all the time and try fasting, but it doesn't work. My best guess is that Amber has perminantly damaged her swim bladder. 'O.O'
Logged
Nossie
Hero Member
*****

Karma: 481
Posts: 5469



Re: Chronic swim bladder?
« Reply #163 on: December 13, 2010, 07:07:29 AM »

Did you try separating Citrine already? And treating her with some Epsom salts? Smiley
Poor girl Sad I really hope it's nothing permanent involved...

I'll be posting some photos of all the fish soon again when the pearlies move in with the big guys! Wink
Logged
Goldiegirl
Sr. Member
****

Karma: 169
Posts: 766



Re: Chronic swim bladder?
« Reply #164 on: December 16, 2010, 12:48:21 PM »

Yep I did. It didn't help though! Very unusual...reminds me of poor Topaz  Cry And yes, I pray it's nothing that lasts for the rest of her life. I just don't know why! Bubbles of gas just seem to get easily lodged in her swim bladder/intestinal tract. If it's Amber's fault, shouldn't it go away over time?

I went to the store recently where I dropped Amber off. He was still there! He was swimming around happy and healthy in a tank with 2 other black moors. They also had a GIANT Ryukin there with lovely finnage I admired for a while.  Smiley

Also...do fish have dreams when they sleep? Out of the blue, but when I saw my blue oranda asleep early in the morning I observed he/she (I don't know the gender yet..best guess is a female) was moving it's eyes around like humans do when they are dreaming. It was so cute!!!  Shocked
Logged
Nossie
Hero Member
*****

Karma: 481
Posts: 5469



Re: Chronic swim bladder?
« Reply #165 on: December 17, 2010, 01:00:53 PM »

Oh, that's really funny! xD I really don't know if fish have dreams. But why not? Dogs and cats are sometimes kicking in their sleep Wink
I have no idea whether it'd be possible to conduct experiments that would show any brain activity in fish...? xD
Logged
Goldiegirl
Sr. Member
****

Karma: 169
Posts: 766



Re: Chronic swim bladder?
« Reply #166 on: December 21, 2010, 02:33:52 PM »

I wonder what they dream about  Huh If they dream that is. When my cat sleeps he sticks his tongue out...  Tongue

Well at least Opal isn't having any more trouble, save bloody streaks in his tail. I assumed I hadn't added enough Amquel + to remove the ammonia, so I gave another dose (which the bottle says is ok to do so long as it's after 24 hrs) and he seemed to improve. Combating bad water can be such a pain...I'm about ready to move to the north pole or something.
Logged
Nossie
Hero Member
*****

Karma: 481
Posts: 5469



Re: Chronic swim bladder?
« Reply #167 on: December 21, 2010, 03:49:27 PM »

Especially if the water is bad already when it comes out of the tap Undecided Man! D:
Logged
Goldiegirl
Sr. Member
****

Karma: 169
Posts: 766



Re: Chronic swim bladder?
« Reply #168 on: December 27, 2010, 07:14:41 PM »

Yeah really! Ugh! After the Amquel was kicked into action there were signs of improvement. However, Citrine is getting worse and worse every day *groans.* Fortunately she seems to be able to stay in the main tank without being picked on; she is a close friend of everybody and everyone seems willing to protect her. Going to try a salt bath, perhaps that will help to relax the tension in her swim bladder. I tried fasting her but it didn't help.

Amber! I will never forgive that fish...
Logged
Nossie
Hero Member
*****

Karma: 481
Posts: 5469



Re: Chronic swim bladder?
« Reply #169 on: December 28, 2010, 10:37:58 AM »

Aww, what a pain! D:
Well, maybe she'll just have to struggle with swim bladder the rest of her life Undecided
Logged
Goldiegirl
Sr. Member
****

Karma: 169
Posts: 766



Re: Chronic swim bladder?
« Reply #170 on: December 28, 2010, 06:24:25 PM »

Oh no I hope not! Hoping that this summer I can set up my outdoor tank...its quite large and perhaps being in a larger tank will help. SHe's still my baby though  Cheesy
Logged
Nossie
Hero Member
*****

Karma: 481
Posts: 5469



Re: Chronic swim bladder?
« Reply #171 on: December 29, 2010, 09:49:34 AM »

A larger tank has more water pressure for the fish to cope with, which is why lowering the water level is suggested when treating a fish with swim bladder issues Smiley But then again, you never know Wink Sometimes them fish are impossible to explain Wink They act one way in a certain tank and then stops in another.
Logged
Goldiegirl
Sr. Member
****

Karma: 169
Posts: 766



Re: Chronic swim bladder?
« Reply #172 on: December 29, 2010, 09:12:20 PM »

Heehee I know right! When Topzie had his problem it helped him to be in a larger tank, but then again he had a sinking problem - not a floating problem like Citrine. When I looked in my main tank this morning I was startled as I saw her floating on her side by the filter...I even exclaimed aloud, "Oh my gosh! Citrine!" because I thought she was dead DX But I called her name and she sprang to life lol! But I was worried. She's never looked that bad before, yet she seemed fine otherwise... Embarrassed
Logged
Goldiegirl
Sr. Member
****

Karma: 169
Posts: 766



Re: Chronic swim bladder?
« Reply #173 on: February 13, 2011, 12:16:27 PM »

It's been a while since I've posted anything, but Citrine's swim bladder problem is getting really severe. She floats all day between the tank equipment and the wall, refusing even to respond when a curious friend tugs at her tail. She eats well though, but still exhibits extreme problems when it comes to sinking and rising. In May once all the snowstorms have passed, I am going to re-establish my outdoor mini pond and hope that more swimming room and a diet mostly of bugs will alter her condition.
Logged
Nossie
Hero Member
*****

Karma: 481
Posts: 5469



Re: Chronic swim bladder?
« Reply #174 on: March 19, 2011, 02:38:52 PM »

Oh no Sad
I see it's been a while since you posted this, how is it going now?
Logged
fantailer
Sr. Member
****

Karma: 122
Posts: 1629



Re: Chronic swim bladder?
« Reply #175 on: March 19, 2011, 03:18:35 PM »

Well I hope Citrine'sbetter than alive.
Logged
Goldiegirl
Sr. Member
****

Karma: 169
Posts: 766



Re: Chronic swim bladder?
« Reply #176 on: March 23, 2011, 11:22:22 AM »

Thanks fantailer.

It has been a while, hasn't it!

Well much has happened. Now that the weather's warm I re-set up my 95 liter outdoor tank and put her out there in it so she can have some recovery time. Ever since she's had some time to recouperate she doesn't show as many signs of swim bladder issues. I don't understand the relationship between more room and better health.
Logged
Nossie
Hero Member
*****

Karma: 481
Posts: 5469



Re: Chronic swim bladder?
« Reply #177 on: March 27, 2011, 04:34:26 PM »

At least she's better!! Smiley Maybe she just got extra sensitive to nitrates? They're proven to cause swim bladder issues in stronger concentrations and some fish are more sensitive to it than others. But you never know for sure! D:
Logged
Goldiegirl
Sr. Member
****

Karma: 169
Posts: 766



Re: Chronic swim bladder?
« Reply #178 on: April 04, 2011, 12:57:56 PM »

Maybe so. That's a good point! But my outdoor tank is higher in nitrates than my indoor one, so no idea what that's about.  Sad Right now the weather is still very cold, so she is kind of in a sleepy state; almost a hibernation! She doesn't eat much, but at least she doesn't seem to be struggling so much. Wisp is out there to keep her company too  Grin
Logged
Nossie
Hero Member
*****

Karma: 481
Posts: 5469



Re: Chronic swim bladder?
« Reply #179 on: April 05, 2011, 04:12:31 PM »

Good to hear that Smiley
Logged
Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 [6] 7  
« previous next »
Jump to:  
Page created in 0.199 seconds with 16 queries.