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Nossie
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Claymore.
« on: October 07, 2010, 03:37:35 AM »

Hey everyone!

Not all of you may know that my little Claymore has been gulping air like crazy, just like Goldiegirl's fish :'D
Well, I noticed it getting really bad yesterday night, as he was floating upside down, completely! He's never done that before! D': The other fish thought he was dead so they started nibbling on him...
Needless to say, I separated him from the other fish in the tank, simply with a big plastic basket Smiley He seems to be getting a bit better all the time when he gets to rest. He still has troubles controlling himself right now, but that'll get better once he's cleared out Smiley (Wish I could've noticed sooner somehow!!)

I decided to treat him the same way I did when I bought him, and he was severely constipated. No food for one-two days and finally some frozen peas before I release him with the others Smiley
Just thought I'd make a post about it with my progress! And any suggestions will be helpful Smiley

Anyways, water parameters, just as a nice custom Wink
pH: 7-7.5
Ammonia: 0 PPM
Nitrite: 0 PPM
Nitrate: <10 PPM
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Hanna
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Re: Claymore.
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2010, 07:37:15 AM »

Hey Nossie this is sad news.  Cry
Water is just pristine, excellent quality.
Hope his injuries from nibbling are not to bad and your treatment will be successful.
Do you use Melafix too, just in case he got injuries or do you use sth else to keep his slimecoat in good condition?
In case of constipation I believe this is the right thing to do.

I keep fingers crossed for you and Claymore, I know he's in best hands with you.
Keep us updated please.
Thanks
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Nossie
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Re: Claymore.
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2010, 11:30:34 AM »

Thank you Smiley At most his tail is a bit torn, I haven't noticed any other wounds on him, so he should be fine Wink
I'm using that special water conditioner of mine for a while now, it's supposed to strengthen the immune system, help the slime coat and assist the fish in healing small wounds (or small infections).
Unfortunately, Melafix isn't available around here Sad I might look for it on net sometime though Smiley (maybe when I'll get more tanks and it'll be good during quarantine?)

I'll tell you more about the progress tomorrow or so Smiley
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Re: Claymore.
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2010, 06:56:49 PM »

Oh sweet Claymore (his name is fantastic btw), I do hope he is doing better Nossie. When my Niece decided to drop off Mr. Tailer and leave him with me, that is what happened to him. Floating upside down or nose down as he seemed to be full of air as he rose to the top each time. I went online and discovered the frozen thawed skinned pea remedy, and he improved within 6 hrs of eating. I actually saw bubbles blow out his butt! Yeah I needed a drink after that Wink cheeky little bubble-in-the-bathtub fishy ♥ All the best to Claymore!
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Re: Claymore.
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2010, 02:44:40 AM »

That's great to hear Smiley Maybe that's why she wanted to give him away in the first place? Wink

Today is Claymore's second day without food, so in the evening I'll let him out of that basket, and give him peas for breakfast tomorrow morning Smiley After that I think I'll be feeding them only tubifex, brine shrimp and peas for a little while, to make sure he'll clear up!! I think I mentioned before that I've already gotten rid of his swim bladder disorder before, so it should be treatable this time too Smiley

If it won't work though, I think that some kind of surgery would be the only option, and I don't think I've got the equipment or experience to do that... :'D
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Re: Claymore.
« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2010, 06:41:17 AM »

I was going to recommend the basket tip as soon as I started reading this, should have guessed you already knew about it. I think it's a great idea for situations like this.

Hope Claymore is ok, he is lucky to have you. Maybe he is just having sympathy pain for his girlfriend Clementine  Cheesy Keep us updated on everything, as already said if anybody can fix it is you.

With the surgery thing if it gets that drastic, could you look into places around you that do things like that? There's a place near me who specialise in birds and reptiles along with other exotic pets including fish, so I guess I'm lucky in that sense.
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Re: Claymore.
« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2010, 10:29:51 AM »

Thank you, Andrea! I could always try looking around Smiley But I somehow doubt they'd have anything like that around here, since goldfish aren't very... let's say "popular" Wink Everybody keep them of course, like anywhere, but not many do it correctly Smiley

He probably does feel sorry for little Clementine :'c Is she getting better?

Now, for the update! I had decided to let him out tonight, so I did just after feeding some blood worms to the other fish. He is so happy!! He's going around the tank allover, and seems to be in much better shape Smiley He looks quite pale though, but I bet a few days of color enhancing diet and vegetables will get him right back on track! Wink His little friend Berry was around the basket quite a lot checking on him, along with Samantha, Mr. Big and some of the others. It was so touching, they really missed eachother :'D
Tomorrow I'll give them all peas for breakfast! Smiley
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Re: Claymore.
« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2010, 04:47:35 PM »

Oh, how sweet his little friends are. Happy he is better and hope he'll continue to improve.
Nossie you are so knowledgeable you sure do the right things. Can't you get Melafix of ebay.uk ?

Keep us updated how Claymore will enjoy his breakfast after the diet. Smiley
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Re: Claymore.
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2010, 10:52:29 PM »

The one near is part of the University of Sydney so it's all experience for the students who do years of theory and then can move onto a place like this so they can specialise in a certain type of animal or something. It's near me because it also specialises in farm animals so they can't really have this in the middle of the city Tongue There has to be some place where these people can learn and it is a fantastic place, they saved my cockatiel for quite a cheap price as it is not for profit.

Clementine is doing better but is still not acting like a normal goldfish Sad She hasn't layed on the bottom of the tank for a few days now and is eating but she doesn't really swim around either. She is currently sort of floating in the middle of the tank and swims around occasionally, not floating as in like how Claymore was. She isn't half as active as Sunshine and though I am pretty sure she is going to survive, I dunno if she is happy. Maybe she is hungry or a bit cold, I'm not sure. I have been feeding her, just peas for most of the days because she was constipated. I tried her with brine shrimp but she wasn't very interested.
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Re: Claymore.
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2010, 11:00:52 PM »

I believe Clementine will be better when she'll be together with Sunshine
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Re: Claymore.
« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2010, 12:08:33 PM »

Good news everyone! Smiley I've fed Claymore and his friends with the peas this morning, and with some pre-soaked tubifex worms for dinner, and he's like an all new fish! Cheesy He's swimming around everywhere between the plants and behind the driftwood digging around for food Wink It's great to see him like this again Smiley

Hanna: Yeah, I'll probably be looking for it more seriously when I'll have some more quarantine "work" to do Wink I don't know if it'd be very smart to buy it now as it would probably just stand in my cabinet and get old d:

Andrea: Did you try feeding her some other live foods? Like blood worms? They use to be very popular among goldfish! Smiley Tubifex cubes are really easy to feed to, and my fish are crazy about them! They're catching all the little pieces floating around, and little Popo gobbled down a whole big piece all by himself today! Refused to let it go and simply chewed on it little by little xD
Could be that you need to try some different kinds of foods for Clementine and see what she likes most! Smiley Live foods are really nutritious, so that might just help her!
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Re: Claymore.
« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2010, 01:53:50 AM »

Aw that's lovely to here about Claymore, everyone better continue to be nice to him or there will be trouble Tongue

Nossie I really think you should write a book as I actually fed her some frozen blood worms yesterday before reading what you wrote and it is like Clementine is a new fish Cheesy She gobbled them up straight away and then spent ages looking for more in the gravel and has been great every since. She must be a meat lover haha while Sunshine prefers her vegies Tongue I just fed Clementine some pellets which she did eat, but I'll give her some more blood worms tomorrow because she needs to get her energy and strength up for when I move her again. I'm so happy, I'm going to look for some tubifex cubes next.

I actually brought the blood worms from where I got her so maybe they fed them blood worms as an occasional treat so she is used to them Smiley
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Re: Claymore.
« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2010, 01:58:23 AM »

Hehe, as I suggested in an other earlier post to get the food she's used to and has been fed there  Tongue  Wink
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Re: Claymore.
« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2010, 02:03:46 AM »

Nossie, I like to have it in my emergency "fish pharmacy" just like we always have some pain killers and some desinfectant solution or cream and band aid in our human home pharmacy,  Wink.
Melafix and Pimafix really can't get "old" in that sense
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Re: Claymore.
« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2010, 02:23:52 AM »

I went and asked them what she normally feeds them and she said the flakes and well I didn't want to buy them  Undecided They also said the ph was 7.0 so I think that is where my problem definitely was. But should be all good from here Smiley
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Re: Claymore.
« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2010, 02:36:27 AM »

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I went and asked them what she normally feeds them and she said the flakes and well I didn't want to buy them  Undecided They also said the ph was 7.0 so I think that is where my problem definitely was. But should be all good from here Smiley

I think so too, what good news, Andrea I am so happy for you  Grin
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Re: Claymore.
« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2010, 03:40:09 AM »

Hanna: You're saying that there's no "Best Before" date on the bottles? That'd be great in that case, and I'll start looking for it right away! Cheesy

Andrea: I'm so happy to hear that! Smiley It's really good to feed your fish some "strange" things while quarantining them, heard of a guy that uses to feed his quarantine fish with tropical fish flakes and crushed, freeze-dried krill Cheesy They love it, and a full belly tend not to be a sick one Wink So even if it wouldn't really work in the long run to feed her that much of blood worms and veggies, I think you still should, as long as she likes it! Smiley

Now about the book... we'll see what I'll come up with ;> It'd be awesome to actually make one to be sold around here! Cheesy
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Re: Claymore.
« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2010, 05:49:03 AM »

There is Nossie but they are pretty long. I think they probably last about two years.

Haha yes, I wanna get her big and strong but most importantly I want to get her use to theo food I feed Sunshine so she doesn't starve, that is why I've kept up with the pellets. Oh and I was also feeding the peas cause she was constipated. I'll feed her the blood worms tomorrow again. Gotta try her with some more vegies too Smiley

If you wrote that book there is no question I would buy it, well as long as I could get an English version of it Tongue
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Re: Claymore.
« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2010, 05:57:42 AM »

Nossie, there is an expiry date, but as Andrea already said, pretty long,  Wink
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Re: Claymore.
« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2010, 06:34:31 AM »

Maybe it'd be useful in that case... we'll see d:

The pellets have some of the vitamins and stuff goldfish need, so that's a really good thing to feed her now and then too, rly Smiley

Cool! Some day, when I'll have time and more experience, I might write a book then! Cheesy WHEE! Cheesy
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Re: Claymore.
« Reply #20 on: October 11, 2010, 09:33:23 AM »

Got some pics of the new and perky Claymore Grin
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Re: Claymore.
« Reply #21 on: October 11, 2010, 02:35:11 PM »

Oh Claymore is adorable Nossie!!! All your fishies are so sweet ♥ I love his colour Cheesy
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Re: Claymore.
« Reply #22 on: October 11, 2010, 04:24:12 PM »

Sweet, sweet sweet, soooooooooooooooooooooooo sweeeeeet Cheesy
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Re: Claymore.
« Reply #23 on: October 12, 2010, 03:28:18 AM »

Sorry about my camera, really Wink It kills the colors and makes most things look very grainy :'D

But thank you all! Smiley The first pic is most accurate when it comes to the colors Wink
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Re: Claymore.
« Reply #24 on: October 12, 2010, 03:53:38 AM »

That is the most adorable oranda I have ever seen.:O:):O:):O:)
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Re: Claymore.
« Reply #25 on: October 12, 2010, 03:18:50 PM »

Thank you! Smiley
I love him too! <3
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Re: Claymore.
« Reply #26 on: October 14, 2010, 03:15:53 AM »

Claymore is such a gorgeous fish, a perfect Oranda Smiley He should be a fish model. Clementine is alot darker than that but it's always hard to tell through cameras.
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Re: Claymore.
« Reply #27 on: October 14, 2010, 02:51:26 PM »

Thanks Wink I have been looking at him a lot myself too, noticing that he's simply a flawless oranda! Cheesy Except for the one bended lobe on his tail. I wonder if that was something from his birth, or if he's gotten hurt somehow during handling :'c

His dorsal fin looks all torn and broken on the upper photo! D8 When I edited the colors digitally it seems the thin layers of fin were "eaten" by the stronger colors c:
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Re: Claymore.
« Reply #28 on: October 15, 2010, 07:50:52 PM »

Well, glad to hear Claymore is on the mend! Smiley
Just to let you know that shrimp is high in fiber.  The freeze dried small shrimp for fish is excellent and produce healthy poo!  Wink
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Re: Claymore.
« Reply #29 on: October 16, 2010, 03:08:31 AM »

Thank you, Minde! Cheesy I should go look for some Smiley
Just wondering, are brine shrimp packed in gel similar? Nutrition-wise?
(I'm away from my fish for a few days, so I can't check it myself on the pack! :'D)
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