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Novaguin
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What do I need?
« on: December 02, 2010, 11:17:55 PM »

So I've been allowed to get the tank soon. What would I need to get in supplies, eg. food, siphon, water test kit, etc. Could you also recommend some brands. Thanks Cheesy

Oh, it's prolly gonna be an AquaPro 620T tank. About 130L. How many goldies could I have 3 goldies in there, or should I just stick to 2?
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Re: What do I need?
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2010, 11:22:12 PM »

Make sure its a big enough tank: enough for you to get more fish if you want Smiley

Marina makes some good stuff in the way of tanks and tank care (speaking of, aside from a gravel cleaner, get an algae scraper too Cheesy)
 
My personal favorite brand of food is Omega 1 fish flakes Smiley Fishies eat it up like crazy Cheesy

As for water testing and watercare- Strongly reccommend Nutrafin Mini Master test kit: it covers pH, NO2, NO3, and NH4

Gravel is optional, although I do reccommend you get some to plant some plants.

Decorations, also optional, just make sure if you get some, rinse them really really well, as sometimes the colours are prone to leakage.

Before you get your fish: PLEASE CYCLE YOUR TANK. It takes anywhere from three weeks to a month or two. Don't rush anything Smiley

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Re: What do I need?
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2010, 11:23:16 PM »

you can prolly keep three goldfish in there.. sounds like a 34 gal tank.
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Re: What do I need?
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2010, 11:24:13 PM »

Should I be putting fish food into the tank whlie its cycling?
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Re: What do I need?
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2010, 11:24:41 PM »

It's 130L, so around 35 gallons.
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Re: What do I need?
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2010, 11:24:55 PM »

and you can if you want. It might speed up the process. for the most part, if you leave it be it'll do its thing just fine
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Re: What do I need?
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2010, 11:26:04 PM »

The best foods IMO are Hikari, Omega One, Aqueon and HBH.  Also, the frozen foods are great and don't forget the fresh veggies! Cheesy
Where are you from and what stores are available to you?
What size tank are you getting?
If your tank is over 30 gallons I recommend a canister filter and maybe a power filter, internal or external.
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Re: What do I need?
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2010, 11:27:34 PM »

The tank comes with a 550L/hour filter. As stated before, it's 130L. There are quite a few good fish stores around, but I shall be purchasing the tank from a pretty big store.
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Re: What do I need?
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2010, 11:31:09 PM »

Also, should I get some aquarium salt. I'm planning to get orandas and I've heard their wen can get infected easily.
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« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2010, 11:37:37 PM »

It's always good to keep aquarium salt on hand! Smiley
I use it when I get new fish, to help with stress.
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Re: What do I need?
« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2010, 11:52:42 PM »

Any particular brand you would recommend? Also, would stuff like stability work? And finally, should I keep an emergency supply of melafix/fin rot medicine/ the one starting with "P"?
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Re: What do I need?
« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2010, 05:20:20 AM »

Stability (= beneficial bacteria) and Prime (=conditioner) both from Seachem are one of the best products you can buy.
Very important to use them according to bottle instructions.

According to feeding your future darlings, there is a thread we created, a "sticky" one:
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I always keep Melafix and Pimafix as sort of "emergency" med
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Re: What do I need?
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2010, 06:39:35 AM »

Do you think I could have 3 orandas in a 130L tank?
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Re: What do I need?
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2010, 06:43:20 AM »

Yes you can.
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« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2010, 10:56:10 AM »

40 liters per goldfish, so 130 will support three goldies Smiley
I would really suggest an external canister filter, or the biggest internal thing you can get! The filter should turn between 5-10 times the tank volume per hour, so aim for something around 650-1300L/h Smiley
And air pump + line + stone would be good to have too! Extra aeration is great to have in case you'll have warm summers Cheesy Goldfish need all the oxygen they can get Wink
Buy a siphon too and a few buckets, siphons are cheap! it's like a bottle at the end of a tube pretty much, and it's great to have when changing the water! Test kits and the like have already been mentioned....
Get some good quality food for them fish too, I'd like to add JBL to the list of good brands Smiley The pellets get soft quick so they'll be easy for your fish to eat, and you don't have to soak them for too long before feeding. Stock up on some frozen food too, like blood worms or something Cheesy Growing fish need lots of protein! Smiley

I swear by live plants and natural environments for your fish, so I'd go right now and get some gravel, bog wood and pebbles Cheesy But that's your own choice Smiley Gravel will mean more space for the beneficial bacteria to grow! Smiley
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Re: What do I need?
« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2010, 11:07:05 AM »

Also, I keep antibiotic fish food on hand all the time.
So many people see their fish is sick and then do not have the meds and have to run out sometimes not for a few days, to get the medicine.
It is vital that you treat as soon as you see symptoms, to better the chances of a full recovery!
I keep Rid Ich + on hand, and also methylene blue along with the oral antibiotic, melafix, pimafix and aquarium salt.
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Re: What do I need?
« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2010, 02:18:36 AM »

Do you reckon I could put 2 plecos (or whatever those fish that are small and eat algae) in the tank with 3 orandas? And, do you think I should get some red cherry shrimp, or will the goldfish eat them too quickly?
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Re: What do I need?
« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2010, 02:29:46 AM »

I wouldn't put anything else with goldfish, not only because adding other fish/shrimp in there you'd overstock, but plecos may suck the slime of your goldfishes body and the goldfish would get ill, and the shrimp would be eaten by the goldies.

Goldfish are best kept as a species, not community
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Re: What do I need?
« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2010, 03:51:04 AM »

In this case, I wouldn't add the plecos, because most species grow REALLY BIG, and you'll overstock your tank. Especially since this is your first tank (?), it's not to recommend.
There are only some plecos that will get the habit of sucking on other fishes' slime coat, for example some of the gibbiceps-species etc. BUT, you can "easily" avoid this by keeping the plecos well-fed on vegetables and live foods Smiley There are special "staple" pleco pellets available as well containing algae or shrimp that you can buy. But the reason why I said "easily" is because it's pretty hard for you to feed the plecos with three hungry orandas around! I'm having a bit of trouble, so whenever I feed the pleco, I have to make sure that the goldfish are busy with something too xD But so far, they're all doing good Smiley And they just LOVE zucchini Wink

The point: Avoid the plecos for now, you can get them later if you'll get another tank or a different setup Smiley They'll do better with some smaller tropical fish or something so that they'll get food easier Smiley
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Re: What do I need?
« Reply #19 on: December 05, 2010, 07:00:00 AM »

Hmm, I'm now thinking 2 orandas and 1 lionhead/ranchu. Reckon they could work well together 'cause the lionhead/ranchu doesn't have a dorsel fin?
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Re: What do I need?
« Reply #20 on: December 05, 2010, 07:17:22 AM »

Yes, they'd be good Smiley Actually, it's really easy to keep a tank with a mix of fancy goldfish, since most of them have the same "disabilities". Orandas go with most fancy goldfish, like fantails, ryukins, ranchus, lionheads, pom poms... I actually keep an oranda with all these and some black moors, but you may want to wait with the moors until you have some more experience with the goldfish and how much food they need! Since moors are pretty slow due to their eye sight, the orandas might steal the food from them.
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