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Kahime
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Cycling Question - What do I need?
« on: June 09, 2011, 07:40:27 PM »

I'm just about ready to get my tank and start cycling (waiting for stand to come in next week first).

I've read lots of articles about how-to cycle but nothing tells me about what I need first (except for the testing kits, etc).

I'm assuming that I should have everything in the tank before cycling:

plants
gravel
decor/hiding spots
filters
air pumps & stones
heater

is this correct?

Trying to make sure I do this right Smiley
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fantailer
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Re: Cycling Question - What do I need?
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2011, 05:26:58 AM »

You shouldn't use a heater for a goldfish because they are coldwater fish.
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Re: Cycling Question - What do I need?
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2011, 10:02:41 AM »

If you get any decorative objects just make sure they are not hollow or could hold stagnant water, that can cause illness for you fish in the future.   Don't put a lot of gravel either, they can hold air/gas pockets that can also cause illness.  My gravel is now just one tiny layer not even 1/2 inch, some spots are even bare. 

You don't have to have the plants in there first, mainly just the filter and media is most important when starting the cycle.  The bacteria will live on the media in your filter so never change it all out at once and don't rinse it under tap water, I rinse mine off in a bucket of tank water when doing a water change weekly. 
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Nossie
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Re: Cycling Question - What do I need?
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2011, 02:46:49 AM »

I use only natural things in my tank, gravel, pebbles, wood and live plants. Chunks of bog wood will look very nice in any tank! Smiley Just be sure that it doesn't have any sharp edges that the goldfish can get hurt on.
Personally, I think a bare-bottom tank is incredibly unsightly. So is one that doesn't have enough gravel to cover the bottom. Gravel only lets your goldfish behave in their natural way, which is: Dig for food in the substrate. It also holds beneficial bacteria and you will need a lot of that keeping goldfish!! I have a 2 inch layer in my tank, it's a perfect depth to keep the plants in place, and it's easy to clean with a gravel vacuum.

You don't need a heater, even if your apartment would get a bit cooler in the winter, they're fine with that! It just raises the possibility of them breeding when the warmer temperatures come Wink

When it comes to a filter, choose one that has lots of space for filter media! And it has to pump 10 times the tank volume. So if you'll get a 30 gallon, get a filter that pumps 300gph. You can also combine the filters, so you have one that pumps 20gph and one that pumps 10! As long as you get enough filtration Smiley

Plants, go for plants with strong leaves or the goldies will tear them to shreds and eat them in a day. I have Java Fern and various kinds of Anubias in my tank, they're really beautiful and hardy plants.
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Re: Cycling Question - What do I need?
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2011, 10:49:33 PM »

Both of my decorations, which are like caves they can swim thru, are hollow and have holes in the bottom, so they can hold stagnant water.  In light of Bel's comment, should I get rid of these decorations and get some that aren't hollow?

Thanks.  (sorry to hijack)
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Re: Cycling Question - What do I need?
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2011, 09:12:22 AM »

SummerTime: Naah. I really don't think it's a problem, just like she was picking on the "gas pockets" in gravel Wink All three of the tanks I've kept have had a nice thick layer of gravel in them and I've never had any problems with parasites or anything else that may thrive in such areas. As long as you've got good water circulation in the rest of the tank, I don't see a problem Smiley

Right, I'd also like to add that I had a hollow ship wreck and a bridge in the 20 gallon before (now exchanged to two small pieces of bog wood) and yet again, not a single sick fish in the tank!! So really, nothing to worry about.

Besides, goldfish are attacked by all kinds of bacteria and parasites all the time, just like us, and it's thanks to good water quality, nutrition and aeration that their immune system can fight these off!
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Kahime
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Re: Cycling Question - What do I need?
« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2011, 09:45:28 PM »

Thanks for all the advice!

Out of curiosity would it still be ok for me to have a heater even though it's not "needed"?

I ask because my place gets rather warm, so to keep myself cool I usually have the AC running, and I want to keep the fish at a stable temperature. Mostly I want it for that stability to make sure their temperature doesn't fluctuate too much.
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Re: Cycling Question - What do I need?
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2011, 04:29:36 AM »

Yeah its fine to have for emergencies. Wink
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Re: Cycling Question - What do I need?
« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2011, 12:23:10 PM »

Sure! But set it on a fairly low temperature, like 22-24 degrees! You can always keep it off for a while and see what the average temperature will be and if it'll be fluctuating. A normal slight change between day and night is perfectly okay.
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Kahime
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Re: Cycling Question - What do I need?
« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2011, 08:41:46 PM »

Thanks! Sounds like a plan. Smiley
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Re: Cycling Question - What do I need?
« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2011, 03:55:40 PM »

Let us know how it goes! Smiley
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