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Goldiegirl
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Re: Really really frustrated
« Reply #30 on: October 27, 2011, 12:38:02 PM »

Awwww.  Cry Sorry for your loss, Ireiden. It is always hard to lose a pet you tried so hard to heal. Please accept my condolances.  Sad
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Re: Really really frustrated
« Reply #31 on: October 27, 2011, 12:45:28 PM »

Thanks goldiegirl, it got really frustrating trying to keep her alive, I'm almost relieved she's gone and not suffering with my stupidity.  I'm going to ask santa for a bigger tank, at least 30 gallons, so I can get 2 more fish.  I think I treated her so long for Ich and then for a bacterial infection she just couldn't hack it anymore. Sad
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Re: Really really frustrated
« Reply #32 on: October 28, 2011, 05:48:02 AM »

Had a feeling that would happen... I've been through the same, trying to treat a fish for a long time and still not getting results other than the poor thing dying... :/
I really hope you'll get a bigger tank for Christmas though, and I'm really sorry you lost Dolly Sad
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Goldiegirl
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Re: Really really frustrated
« Reply #33 on: October 28, 2011, 02:28:41 PM »

Don't be too hard on yourself. I have lost many fish over the course of the years before I gained enough personal experience to know what I was doing. It's just part of learning how to keep fish, and some are bound to end up not being able to survive our ignorance. But with each loss you learn, and can apply your knowledge to future fish. Then, when you finally get the hang of things, you will be grateful for the fish you are able to keep alive and thriving. It is a hard road in the beginning, but at least you're not going to give up, as I have been tempted to do many times! And you have this website to help, which makes things SO much easier when you need advise. I hadn't ever come across a site like this when I really needed it, and was stuck trying to make my best guess about things like ammonia burns (which I thought was black spot disease), nitrite poisoning (which I thought was fish lice) and water changes (which I thought were supposed to be 25% every other week; malinformed by pet shop employees).

Hoping all the best for you and your future fish!  Smiley
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Re: Really really frustrated
« Reply #34 on: October 28, 2011, 02:47:29 PM »

My boyfriend makes fun of me lol.  Not that he doesn't care about the fish but he sees how hard I've worked to keep them alive and how many I've killed in my stupidity, he goes "I hope you have more luck than this with our kids"  Grin.  I was originally told by petsmart that buying 4 fancy's for a 10 gallon tank was, and I quote "totally fine."  Now when I go in to ask a question, I blatantly ask the person "how much fish experience do you have?" because honestly, I feel like from coming on this forum and learning from everything on here that often I know more then the people at the store!  Anyways, I"m rambling, I will still be on here and will post as soon as I get more fish which may not be for a while but its going to happen  Smiley
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Goldiegirl
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Re: Really really frustrated
« Reply #35 on: October 28, 2011, 08:12:00 PM »

Lol Ireiden...hopefully the responsibilities of childcare are less perilous than those of goldies?

Our local Petco claims that 2 gallons per goldfish is sufficiant.
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Re: Really really frustrated
« Reply #36 on: October 28, 2011, 10:48:05 PM »

I was told I could keep 2 orandas in my 10 gallon; but 2 gallons per fish? Oh wow, just wow. Sorry about your fishie girl ireiden Sad
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Re: Really really frustrated
« Reply #37 on: October 29, 2011, 06:15:48 AM »

I am sorry to hear about your loss Iredien Sad

I'm glad you'll be sticking around though Smiley From what I've learnt, I think everyone here as had similar experiences when they first started fish keeping.

In fact when I was in Pets At Home, asking about tanks, I explained I had 2 goldfish and the guy I was talking to never mentioned anything about 20 gallons for the first fish, 10 gallons for each additional fish. Heck he would of probably let me walk off with one of their smallest tanks, had they have been in stock the day I went in!
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Re: Really really frustrated
« Reply #38 on: October 29, 2011, 06:23:01 AM »

I was told 2 per the first ten gallon of your tank and one for the rest.
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Re: Really really frustrated
« Reply #39 on: October 29, 2011, 01:25:31 PM »

What a bunch of rubbish we all have had to deal with! So many people really don't know much about goldfish...even the "experts" at chain pet stores.  Undecided
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Re: Really really frustrated
« Reply #40 on: October 31, 2011, 02:23:29 PM »

I def look forward to getting a new fishie.  I'm going to clean my tank out, buy a new filter since the one I have that came with the tank is junk and I might think about getting a different type of fish for my 10 gallon, or just get one goldfish.  I was thinking maybe I'd save one of those poor bettas in those cups that they sell at walmart  Angry  Makes me so mad.
Anyways, not sure what I'll do yet but I'll def still be on here and will update soon Smiley
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Re: Really really frustrated
« Reply #41 on: November 01, 2011, 08:59:11 AM »

Wow they sell Betta's in cups?! Shocked That's pretty crazy... Poor fish! They have the worst luck with people mis understanding them.

I don't know much about Bettas.... I imagine you'd need a heater for starters! But I think the 10 gallon would be alright for a betta?? Maybe someone here can confirm that for me Wink
If you wanted goldfish again, maybe save up and get a nice big tank so you can have lots of them, instead of just one?
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Re: Really really frustrated
« Reply #42 on: November 01, 2011, 07:51:21 PM »

a 10 gal is fine for a betta (: (Link is not visible to guests. Please register to view.)
and yes they sell bettas in cups, every petstore i go to always has lots and lots of little cups with a betta in them Undecided i mean i get that they CAN live in puddles in the dry season.. but a cup? i pity them  Sad
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Skwishee
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Re: Really really frustrated
« Reply #43 on: November 02, 2011, 04:44:24 AM »

Really? Wow.... The only times I've seen Bettas around here are in a row of little tanks, so they're separated.
Poor things, but good link, thanks for posting it Smiley
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Re: Really really frustrated
« Reply #44 on: November 02, 2011, 04:59:43 AM »

You can put a betta in a 1 galllon at the minimum!
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Re: Really really frustrated
« Reply #45 on: November 02, 2011, 10:45:32 AM »

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Goldiegirl
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Re: Really really frustrated
« Reply #46 on: November 02, 2011, 01:17:08 PM »

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I def look forward to getting a new fishie.  I'm going to clean my tank out, buy a new filter since the one I have that came with the tank is junk and I might think about getting a different type of fish for my 10 gallon, or just get one goldfish.  I was thinking maybe I'd save one of those poor bettas in those cups that they sell at walmart  Angry  Makes me so mad.
Anyways, not sure what I'll do yet but I'll def still be on here and will update soon Smiley

Before owning goldfish I kept and bred bettas.  Smiley

In the wild they live in the rice paddies of Thailand, Malaysia, and Cambodia. They grow to a total length of 5 cm, and can live a very long time. The avarage life span is around 2-5 years, but I had one that made it to 7!

They are surface breathers, meaning that they poke their mouths above water to get their air. This means that they do not require an airstone or much surface movement - therefore it is not cruel treatment to keep them in 1 gallon of water, which they will do quite well in. Though not physically damaging or stunting, a cup would be considered boring to a betta, as they love lots of "junk" in their environment and a liberal ammount of room to swim. 10 gallons is a whole lot of room for a tiny betta, but if you want to spoil it, nobody will object.  Wink Only the females can be kept together in a bigger tank, as the males will fight to the death if able to interact at all.
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Re: Really really frustrated
« Reply #47 on: November 04, 2011, 12:56:13 AM »

thanks Goldie that solves a few questions I had about Bettas, because I dont know much about them I have one more , is there a way to tell the males from the females... I always feeling sorry for them when I am in the pet store and I see them in their tiny tanks... and one more thing before I go, the other day I was wondering how the bears are doing. lol ...cheers
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Re: Really really frustrated
« Reply #48 on: November 04, 2011, 04:59:24 AM »

I was suprised when I heard you could keep a betta in a vase.
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Re: Really really frustrated
« Reply #49 on: November 05, 2011, 10:04:10 AM »

No problem Ron.  Wink

Female betta fish are easily distinguished from males if you know what to look for.

Females have very short fins in comparison to the full, flowing ones of males. Males have fins 2 - 4 times longer than those of females.

Male bettas have more of a "beard" than females...the beard is locaed under the gills and male bettas flare them when trying to attract a mate or threaten another betta.  

The most accurate way to differentiate is by looking for a white dot in between her ventrals and anal fin. This is where the eggs drop out of during spawning. The belly of the female betta is usually much, much fuller than that of a male, because it is filled with eggs.

Male bettas also blow bubble nests at the surface of the water into which they would deposit eggs in if they were to spawn.

Bettas really are easy fish to keep (if you know even a little bit about what to do) and make great pets. They require a weekly water change, daily feeding, and a tiny place on your desk (or in your heart) and that's about it.


Edit: Oh yes about the bears lol! Well ever since I shut down my outdoor tank and migrated my fish into the main tank, they have only been back once. They tore down our badminton net, chewed up a volleyball carelessly left in the yard, and gouged several holes into our new garden hose. They also left a lovely large present on our driveway (which my practical mother decided to use as plant fertelizer to keep the deer away) as their farewell gift and haven't been back since. I am so glad I don't have to worry about them anymore; they really are a bit scary and you grow afraid of confrontation. But now that we have had 2 snows and winter is coming on they have really settled down to hybernate. Hopefuly they won't start the process all over again next year!
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Re: Really really frustrated
« Reply #50 on: November 05, 2011, 10:24:22 AM »

I saw some gorgeous bettas yesterday but a few of them were resting on the bottom of their tank not doing anything Sad I felt a little sorry for them, but they were so pretty!

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Re: Really really frustrated
« Reply #51 on: November 06, 2011, 09:35:30 AM »

Just to illustrate the difference between males and female bettas... Wink
They usually sell males alone in a tank or one along with some tetras or other small fish, the girls are usually sold together, since they're not as hostile and territorial as boy-bettas c:

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Goldiegirl
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Re: Really really frustrated
« Reply #52 on: November 06, 2011, 11:24:52 AM »

Most of our local bettas don't have such elaborate finnage or exquisite coloring. *sigh*
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Re: Really really frustrated
« Reply #53 on: November 07, 2011, 05:14:20 AM »

Nah, same here... :'D
They usually look like this:
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with varying colors of course, Bruce has fins like that, but pink and red Wink
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Re: Really really frustrated
« Reply #54 on: November 08, 2011, 12:39:06 AM »

Thanks again Goldie and Nossie for the information, into my fish file it goes... thats good to hear the bears have gone, thats so funny about the present they left you, hehe... cheers
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