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Mindemae
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DIARY OF BABY GOLDFISH
« on: December 05, 2010, 01:46:06 PM »

Found 5-6 baby goldfish in the 75 gallon tank, when I was cleaning it out.
They are just newly hatched fry which so far have only been successful at raising in the pond setting. Cheesy
I have them in a shallow tub.  I have egg yolk fry food which I am feeding them.  If they live to be 10 days old or grow a little bigger I'll start feeding them baby brine shrimp.
I don't know...we shall see if they make it. Smiley
What is really funny is that there is 2 feet of snow on the ground and a blizzard outside right now and I find baby goldfish!! Smiley
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Re: THE POND FISH HAVE BEEN BUSY!
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2010, 02:06:54 PM »

Oh this is wonderful news!!! They are your little winter wigglers Minde  Grin Wow 2 feet of snow  Shocked is your pond heated? I'm so happy for you and Hanna with your little grandfish babies. Wishing all the best ♥
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Re: THE POND FISH HAVE BEEN BUSY!
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2010, 02:46:01 PM »

Good for you! I wish it would snow at my house. Sad

I want snow!!!!!!!!!!!!! *sniff* *sniff*
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Re: THE POND FISH HAVE BEEN BUSY!
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2010, 03:24:24 PM »

Thanx guys!
The pond is empty for the winter. Smiley
The babies were spawned and hatched in the 75 gallon tank that I'm sure their parents missed eating for a snack one day!LOL!

Where are you from Fantailer that you have no snow?
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Re: THE POND FISH HAVE BEEN BUSY!
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2010, 04:07:43 PM »

We have a load of snow too Smiley Congratulations! What a lovely surprise for you! Cheesy
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Re: THE POND FISH HAVE BEEN BUSY!
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2010, 04:35:11 PM »

Thanx Nossie, we shall see how this goes! Wink
I know how it went last time, I didn't have a clue.
I'm following the directions in my new chinese goldfish book this time.
I hope I'm more successful this time. Cheesy
I'll keep you guyz updated. Smiley
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Re: THE POND FISH HAVE BEEN BUSY!
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2010, 04:46:39 PM »

I bet! Wink You'll have an idea of what to do so... Smiley Good luck! Cheesy
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Re: THE POND FISH HAVE BEEN BUSY!
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2010, 06:48:08 AM »

WOOHOO Minde, Congratulations on the baby goldfish, awww how cute and exciting.
Keep a diary and keep us updated please.
Do you know who their mum and dad might be?


Squeek with excitement Minde! Grin
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Re: THE POND FISH HAVE BEEN BUSY!
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2010, 09:41:17 AM »

Oh Hanna,
Thanx but I really feel like a fish out of water!
Raising egg layer babies is really hard!!!
My book says to place them in a shallow pan or jar and not change the water until they are 10 days old.
Suppose to feed them egg yolk for the 10 days then switch to live daphnia.  I was thinking maybe baby brine shrimp since I certainly cannot get daphnia this time of year in the snow!
I did change a cup of water out this am.
I used a syringe with a piece of airhose attached to it to get debrie off the bottom of the plastic shoe box they are in.
I syphoned a cup of water and replaced it with water from the big tank.
They are microscopic.  They are smaller than baby guppies if you can imagine that!
I AM OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS AND COMMENTS!
As I haven't a clue to what I am doing! Undecided
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Re: THE POND FISH HAVE BEEN BUSY!
« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2010, 04:24:00 PM »

Oh my! I don't have ANY experience with this, I've only read about how some breeders do it, really... But maybe something will be useful?

So in my book, it says that the fry is usually kept in a tank (don't remember the size) with a gentle sponge filter and an air stone. You need to change water pretty often because the fry have to be fed at least 10 times a day or something!! I found out lately that the most common reason that fry die is because of lack of food, so feed them often, but small, small amounts Smiley
I also read that small brine shrimp nauplii make excellent fry food since you can hatch it yourself and let them out in the fry tank so the babies can chase them Smiley
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Re: THE POND FISH HAVE BEEN BUSY!
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2010, 05:28:19 PM »

Congratulations Mindemae! Smiley
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Re: THE POND FISH HAVE BEEN BUSY!
« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2010, 06:19:06 PM »

Ok, the problem is the brine shrimp would be too big for them to eat.
Brine shrimp is fed when they are 10-14 days old. Undecided
The other thing is you have to have them in no more than 6 inches of water because they have to be able to swim to the top or they die.  They have to be able to inflate their swim bladder at the surface.
I can't see putting 6 little babies in a huge tank.
Plus until they are a month old you can't have a sponge filter or aeration cuz they would just blow around the tank.
They are so fragile.  They are almost microscopic.
I can see they are eating because when I feed them, a white dot appears midway in them which must be their digestive track.
Otherwise they are transparent, with no fins, except a tail fin.  Dorsal or other fins haven't developed yet. Smiley
they are about 1/16th of an inch long, transparent with 2 tiny black eyes.

My **** syringe broke so I stole the turkey baster and syphoned water with that.....Well I sucked up one of the babies without even realizing it!!
Sheesh, this is wearig on the nerves!! Roll Eyes
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Re: THE POND FISH HAVE BEEN BUSY!
« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2010, 06:21:17 PM »

Thank you pappyfish!
We'll see how this goes!!
It's like having a newborn baby!! Cheesy
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Re: THE POND FISH HAVE BEEN BUSY!
« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2010, 06:30:34 PM »

OMG that is TINY!!! Shocked oh boy another turkey baster at large LMAO! sorry Minde but I'm certain you will do your very best to care for the little wigglers. My nerves would be frayed for sure - 'swim' in there ♥
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Re: THE POND FISH HAVE BEEN BUSY!
« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2010, 06:58:48 PM »

LOL! April thanks for the laugh I need it! Cheesy
I'm like the turkey baster nazi now!! LMAO!!
*Hafta get the debrie out with my valiant turkey baster!!* Grin
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Re: THE POND FISH HAVE BEEN BUSY!
« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2010, 12:36:57 AM »

OMG, I can imagine now how tiny they are.

Here is a link for babyfood: (Link is not visible to guests. Please register to view.)

I feed Liquyfry No2 for livebearers, but No1 is for egglayers. This may help you too, Minde.
I think there is abig chance getting INTERPET products there too.

You sure do the right thing in changing their water, I would too
All my positive thoughts to you Minde, HUGZ Kiss
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Re: THE POND FISH HAVE BEEN BUSY!
« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2010, 08:26:33 AM »

DAY 3 BABY GOLDFISH

THIS MORNING I WOKE UP WITH AN EXCELLENT IDEA on how to rig an airstone in the bucket I have the babies in.
Put an airline suction cup in the bucket and pulled the airline with airstone attached tight so it sits against the inside of the bucket.
I had to kink the hose so there is minimal air flow since I couldn't find my little air hose regulators.

Fed them and put a covered light over them.  They seem to like the light and come to the top of the water.
Then tried to catch the little boogers and transfer them to a new bucket which sat out all night with tank water from the 75 gallon in it. Smiley  It took me a total of 45 mins to accomplish this but I actually got to count them.  So it seems we have 8 in all, still swimming.  I did find a dead one when I went to dump the empty container. Sad

I caught the babies with a small white cup.  I totally recommend white and not clear everything when raising thebabies because you can see them so much better!    Wink

They seem to be handling the minimal air flow from the bubbler.YAY!!

I also added a bit of frozen Rotifersto their diet along with the liquid fry egg yolk .   The baby brine shrimp are too big for them to eat right now.  maybe when they are a couple of weeks old. Smiley
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Re: THE POND FISH HAVE BEEN BUSY!
« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2010, 09:03:13 AM »

Here are some pictures of a couple of the baby goldfish. Smiley
Sorry for not real clear but I don't have a microscopic attachment for my camera! Roll Eyes Cheesy
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Re: BABY GOLDFISH DAY 3
« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2010, 11:02:59 AM »

WOW!!! they are barely visible  Shocked no wonder you are feeling rattled! What a great idea to hook up the airstone Smiley I poked a little hole in the air tubing and bent it slightly to reduce air flow as my pump is too strong even with an adjustment dial. It works well and the bubbles are smooth and gentle now. I am simply blown away at all the activity you are dealing with girly, keep on swimming - you're doing an amazing job!!!
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Re: BABY GOLDFISH DAY 3
« Reply #19 on: December 07, 2010, 11:14:03 AM »

Hanna,
I ordered that food thanx! Wink

April, Thanx for the support!
I'm doing this kinda like a diary so I can note my successes and failures and maybe it will help someone else or the next batch of babies I decide to take on. Cheesy

I feel bad as I'm so busy with the hospital tank and babies I've been totally ignoring my husband who comes and asks me what I want for breakfast (probably hoping I'll jump up and fix it).  I say "Whatever you want" Grin, and he quietly goes and makes tea and comes back and sets a cup down by me. LOL!  Poor guy, I will have to get him something extra nice for xmas. Wink
I did make us a frozen pizza for lunch! YAY! Smiley
My husband is so funny, he came downstairs and said "How's the babies?" Then he looked inthe bucket and he said "WoW I think they grew! I can see them now!"
LOL! Cheesy
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Re: BABY GOLDFISH DAY 3
« Reply #20 on: December 07, 2010, 11:28:01 AM »

Sounds like a real time/nerve-consuming project there! Wink I bet you'll do just fine Smiley
How sweet of your husband to be so supportive!! Smiley Good luck, and keep us updated Wink
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Re: BABY GOLDFISH DAY 3
« Reply #21 on: December 07, 2010, 04:00:53 PM »

Ok here are some better pictures of the little poopers next to the air bubbler so now you can really get a good idea how incredibly small they are! Wink
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Re: BABY GOLDFISH DAY 3
« Reply #22 on: December 07, 2010, 04:46:31 PM »

You know what?   They have grown!!  They are no longer straight pins but have filled out more and taken on a more triangular shape! Cheesy
My husband gave me a pocket led flashlight before he went to work today and told me it was for watching my baby fish so I could see them better!! Grin
I'm totally obsessed with these babies!!! LOL! Cheesy
I can't stop watching them and I feed them every few hours! Cheesy
I always syphon out a cup of water before each feeding to get the old uneaten food out of the tub before I add new in.  I add a cup of water from the 75 gallon tank to replace the one I take out also.
It's alot of work but oh it is so much fun too!
I think the next time any of you do a water change, you should look very carefully in your syphoned water from the tank.  Look with a flashlight and you might see some new babies swimming around too! Wink
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Re: BABY GOLDFISH DAY 3
« Reply #23 on: December 07, 2010, 05:36:38 PM »

Minde, you're a champ.
I can see those little wees, fingers crossed for you for 8 more goldfish! Grin

This reminds me too, didn't think about it, there are airhoses available they have very soft and gentle bubbles, compared to the airstone. But YES, poking some holes in an airtube does the same and is less expensive.
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Re: BABY GOLDFISH DAY 3
« Reply #24 on: December 07, 2010, 05:43:11 PM »

Hanna, LOL!  Did you really mean Champ? Or did you mispell that and mean Chump!! Wink
Even I am questioning my sanity at times for taking on this sea-monkey adventure! Grin
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Re: BABY GOLDFISH DAY 3
« Reply #25 on: December 08, 2010, 04:08:07 AM »

Roflmao Minde, youare a CHAMPion, LOL Grin  Kiss

Say hello to your hubby, so nice he is sooooo understanding  Wink
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Re: BABY GOLDFISH DAY 3
« Reply #26 on: December 08, 2010, 06:14:59 AM »

Minde:

Sorry I'm a bit late. But I am from Central Florida USA and it never snows! It rains, hails, freezing rains, sleet but no snow!
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Re: BABY GOLDFISH DAY 4
« Reply #27 on: December 08, 2010, 07:34:02 AM »

Ok, we are on day 4!  I can't believe it!
My husband said you better look and count again, there are 9!!!
Sure enough I cannot count right THERE ARE 9 babies.  Shocked

The babies look like little teeny fish this am. They have grown considerably since yesterday!
They look more like newly born baby guppies to me and I swear I can see little fins starting to grow! Smiley

I feed them every couple of hours and after midnight is their last feeding and then I try to get up around 6 am for their am feeding.
I feed them just a tiny bit extra to last them through the night.
After I feed them a touch of liquid egg yolk, I let them eat a few minutes and then I start catching them in a cup and put them in the new tub of tank water which I took the night before from the 75 gallon tank.  I then feed them their rotifers. They should be good for around 2-3 hours then.
I keep their tank warm and have a incandescent light hood from a ten gallon tank I use and I kinda prop it up so the light is shining over the tub but not directly over it.  I also do not have a heater for the tub so have it placed on top of the wood pellet stove.
Just somewhere nice and warm with constant temperature is fine. Smiley
I think a warm temp (in the low 70's) increases their metabolism which increases their hunger, which will make them grow faster. Smiley
They say baby goldfish are dark or greyish color when hatched but these babies look orangish brown to me.
Maybe they will darken as they get a little older. Smiley
They are swimming stronger and less jerky than yesterday.
That means they are harder to catch too! Wink
I will try and post a picture of them later today hopefully I CAN GET A GOOD ENOUGH PICTURE SO THAT YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE FROM YESTERDAY TO TODAY! Cheesy
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Re: BABY GOLDFISH DAY 4
« Reply #28 on: December 08, 2010, 09:12:02 AM »

Their scales will usually catch a greenish hue once they develop, and you'll also notice whether they'll have matte, metallic or naucreous scales Smiley

It does sound like a lot of work, how are you doing with sleeping? Shocked
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Re: BABY GOLDFISH DAY 4
« Reply #29 on: December 08, 2010, 10:39:22 AM »

I sleep a few hours at night and then sometimes nap during the day after their noon feeding.  Smiley
I'm so excited about these babies, I don't need sleep! LOL! Wink

If anyone decides to raise some of their goldfish fry, you really need to feed them AT LEAST 3X's a day,  more often if you can, even better!  Probably when they are a month old you could get away with 2X's a day feedings.

So far they are getting the liquid fry food and the frozen Hikari Rotifers.
The babies are getting a more rounded appearance, like tear drop shaped slightly?
I can totally see when their digestive track is full and when it is empty.
First thing in the am it is totally empty.  After putting in 1-2 drops of liquid fry, their insides become whitish yellow.
I totally recommend a led flashlight.  A small pocket size.  It gives you a great view of the babies.
You could even use a magnifier too.
The turkey baster is my best friend!!!  It is great for mini water changes.  I do one BEFORE every feeding! Cheesy
The white plastic cup!  I put the water syphoned with the turkey baster into the cup.
You can totally see if you accidentally sucked up any babies then. Wink
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