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Yubonne
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Does Anyone Have "Bare" Bottom Tank?
« on: June 16, 2010, 03:36:02 PM »

What are your thoughts about it? Is it harder or easier to care for? Do You need to test/change water more frequently? Is it necessary for the bacterial flora to have gravel? Give me your pros and cons about it.

I was thinking of chucking the "fluorescent disco"gravel (my hubs dubbed them that-says they're hideous Cheesy) that came with the kit. Then maybe opt for a few smooth natural river rocks and maybe a terra cotta pot with some plants or maybe a glass tube submerged with some natural stones plus plantings.
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Re: Does Anyone Have "Bare" Bottom Tank?
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2010, 04:04:55 PM »

I was thinking of doing a bare bottom tank for my smaller tank, but I couldnt stand seeing the glass. umm I believe its all personal preference. Of course, if you have bare bottom, you probably wont be able to plant any real plants, which is a real bummer. on the plus side, you can see all the poop thats fallen on the ground, and it'll stay cleaner because you dont have to fight through the gravel
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Re: Does Anyone Have "Bare" Bottom Tank?
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2010, 04:49:53 PM »

It may be easier to clean a bare bottom tank, but as Kat mentioned it is everybodys preference.
I prefer to have some natural looking gravel, plants and some deco, airstone andanother small bubbler.
It gives our fishies sth to do, as they are busy all day, digging, sucking the gravel and re scape. It is their nature, LOL  Smiley
... and the gravel hides the poop...
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Re: Does Anyone Have "Bare" Bottom Tank?
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2010, 01:50:09 PM »

hi

a bar bottom is the only way to go. way easyer to clean. u u want a air stone hide it under the decor and it will come up all around it some times ether way it looks cool. plus the rocks look fake. unless u get sand that look good to.

jordan
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Re: Does Anyone Have "Bare" Bottom Tank?
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2010, 04:11:33 PM »

well I have glass stones in the bottom of my tank, they're alright but again, kinda hard to plant real plants. I have one in there now, and its doin alright cause I have it lightly covered. Smiley personal preference Tongue
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Re: Does Anyone Have "Bare" Bottom Tank?
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2010, 06:11:08 PM »

I wouldn't say "it is the only way to go"  it is personal preference.

The gravel we have in our tank gives our fishies sth to do, also it hides the poo ( cannot see it floating on the bare bottom ) and it has to be cleaned anyway.

But as I said  EVERYBODY'S PREFERENCE which is respected  Wink
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Re: Does Anyone Have "Bare" Bottom Tank?
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2010, 04:18:43 AM »

I would totally NOT go with bare bottom. Because I appreciate a more natural look to the tank. And gravel ain't that hard to clean with a siphon d: You just do it during the water changes.
Real gravel also allows your goldfish to stick to their natural behavior, they are picking up gravel in their mouths, and spit it out again in the search for food. That's why you should choose a rather smooth gravel so they won't hurt themselves on it.
Plants need to be planted in gravel, rather some finer kind to thrive. You can't simply plant them between pebbles on naked bottom, so you'd HAVE to use plastic plants in the tank, which may make it look rather sterile. And the goldfish love snacking on real plants ;> And the plants absorb nitrates from the water, and that's a really good thing Smiley
BUT, I won't lie to you, it IS a really good place for dirt and bacteria to be collected. That's why it's important to clean it regularly, and to test your water. (which you should do anyway)
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Re: Does Anyone Have "Bare" Bottom Tank?
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2010, 11:21:19 AM »

precisely. Now that I know the importance of water testing, Im gonna go all haywire on people when they come up with a problem. "TEST YOUR **** WATER!" hahaha
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Re: Does Anyone Have "Bare" Bottom Tank?
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2010, 03:03:16 PM »

You should totally do that! It can't be emphasized enough! xD (People still won't get it.)
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Re: Does Anyone Have "Bare" Bottom Tank?
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2010, 03:18:42 PM »

Oh I know! I personally know of someone who never has tested her water, kept for a couple of years 2 goldfish in a 5 gallon tank.
And not only that but she would just change the filter and not ever change the water, just add new.  And she always would wonder why she had so much algae growing in her tank.  Wouldn't take my advise.  Now since the demise of her poor fish she now has two super huge commons in a 14 gallon tank at least...but one is totally blind because of high nitrates I believe.  She usually has no live plants in her tank either!  I am so mad!  I have offered to take the fish and put them in my pond sine she obviously doesn't really care THAT much for their well being but she just continues to torture them. Angry
Sorry ranting but some people can be so stubborn and ignorant!!!  What can I do? Cry
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Re: Does Anyone Have "Bare" Bottom Tank?
« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2010, 03:19:37 PM »

PUNCH HER IN THE TEETH! GRRRR!!! I HAS AN ANGRY! MINDE I HAS AN ANGRY!
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Re: Does Anyone Have "Bare" Bottom Tank?
« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2010, 03:24:08 PM »

Minde: That's just so...!  Angry I completely understand how much it must annoy you! Especially for the fact that you try to help, but with no success! Hm, I'm sometimes amazed by the kind of people walking this earth. Not like she would HAVE to be a bad person but... gah, fishes feel pain too! D:
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Re: Does Anyone Have "Bare" Bottom Tank?
« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2010, 03:39:19 PM »

Well, her reply always is when I try to explain how she could have a nicer looking tank is : "They're fine! Quit bugging me about them!"  But when she comes to my house she always comments on how nice my tanks look and has said "Gee, why don't you come over and fix my tanks like that."  But when I do come over she won't listen to what I have to say!  GRRRR...frustrating? Yeah! to say the least! Roll Eyes
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Re: Does Anyone Have "Bare" Bottom Tank?
« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2010, 03:41:40 PM »

That's just even worse! xD It's like she's chatting just for the heck of it and doesn't really care for what she's saying xD
Bleh, I guess what you can do with that stuff is to simply keep your own fish happy and healthy Smiley She'll lose patience sometime d:
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Re: Does Anyone Have "Bare" Bottom Tank?
« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2010, 03:44:11 PM »

Then one time she had this lights up chicago skyline thing in the tank with nothing else because it was so huge for a 14 gallon tank.  Her fish didn't even have swimming room!  I told her it was too big for her tank and so finally she took it out when I finally told her it looked dum.LOL!  
I just think she is one of those people who think fish are a lesser pet than a dog or cat and if it dies "oh well" it's replaceable and have that attitude.  And it irritates me!!!! Angry
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Re: Does Anyone Have "Bare" Bottom Tank?
« Reply #15 on: June 19, 2010, 04:34:56 PM »

Oh dear! What a pain D:

But I guess she hasn't experienced anything else! I mean, her fish prolly aren't very social since they don't feel good in that tank of hers, and they die fast there, so she didn't grow even the slightest attached to them.
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Re: Does Anyone Have "Bare" Bottom Tank?
« Reply #16 on: June 19, 2010, 04:58:16 PM »

i hate people like that. no respect for anything. makes me want to PUNCH THEM IN THE TEETH!!!
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Re: Does Anyone Have "Bare" Bottom Tank?
« Reply #17 on: June 19, 2010, 05:16:41 PM »

Gosh Kat,
remind me never to make you angry at me!
I value my teeth! LOL! Grin

I guess the bottom line is that we can give advice but thats all we can do.  We can't make others change the way they take care of their fish unless they want to. Undecided
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Re: Does Anyone Have "Bare" Bottom Tank?
« Reply #18 on: June 19, 2010, 08:30:42 PM »

Gosh girls, can you see the smoke out there in the sky? I AM FUMING !!!! It makes me WILD, ANGRY, FURIOUS, I HAVE ICICLES IN MY EYES when I experience people like this: asking for advice, but then completely ignoring it, treating others including their pets like rubbish, don't know what they're talking about as if they are brain amputated... GRRRRRRRRRR, BAAAAH, KICK, CRUNCH
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Re: Does Anyone Have "Bare" Bottom Tank?
« Reply #19 on: June 19, 2010, 08:38:23 PM »

Gosh is that what that is...SMOKE?  I thought it was just getting cloudy! Grin

Anyways, thanks girls for letting me vent.  It's nice to have some friends on here who care as much about their fish as I do! Wink
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Re: Does Anyone Have "Bare" Bottom Tank?
« Reply #20 on: June 19, 2010, 08:40:42 PM »

 Grin
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Re: Does Anyone Have "Bare" Bottom Tank?
« Reply #21 on: June 20, 2010, 02:41:36 PM »

Wow, this topic got HOT. Literally.  Grin Makes you want to just take the fish away from people and report them to the DO-NOT-LET-THIS-PERSON-HAVE-ANIMALS department.

I sometimes feel that way at chain pet stores where you tell the employees there's dead/sick fish (or other creatures) and they go ....Uh, okay....and you go back a week later and the poor things are still laying there. Angry

I wouldn't shop there but it's the only place that carries the food my hermit crab will eat.
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Re: Does Anyone Have "Bare" Bottom Tank?
« Reply #22 on: June 20, 2010, 03:29:54 PM »

oh I know, Yubonne!  One time I was out of town shopping for a new fish and these tanks at Pet Supplies Plus had dead fish in them.  So I told the girl and also told her that I wouldn't buy any fish while there was dead fish in a tank.  She just said Ok.  Well when I went to get my stuff I needed I checked to see if she had taken the dead fish out!  IT WAS STILL THERE!!  Ok, I was fuming!  I went and found a manager and told them.
The next day i happened to go back in the store and the poor dead fish was still in there!  So when I checked out I told the girl at the checkout and I'm afraid gave her a bit of my mind, since this store promotes animal well being and adoption.  She said I'll go take care of it right now!  And she did!  I mean how long does it take to fish out a dead fish out of a tank? less than 5 mins?  Angry
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Re: Does Anyone Have "Bare" Bottom Tank?
« Reply #23 on: June 20, 2010, 07:46:12 PM »

That makes me more than angry, leaving a dead fish in the tank! Not only is it bad for business, its also bad for the rest of the fish. You have to wonder what the fish died from, and whether or not it has also transmitted to the other fish.  and yes, now there is fire in the sky. I vote we all go on a rampage and KICK PEOPLE IN THE TEETH!
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Re: Does Anyone Have "Bare" Bottom Tank?
« Reply #24 on: June 21, 2010, 03:40:58 AM »

YAY! PUNCHING PARTY!!

No, seriously, when I went to get my tank I saw a little common goldie floating about dead in some plants. His eye was all white, so I guess they've left him there for a while. I don't like that! But I do hope they remove them dead fish when the day is over.
They usually have very healthy and beautiful fish there, and I've seen them doing water changes so... yeah.

And I still remember the beautiful, little calico Oranda that had swim bladder problems :'c He looked at me like he wanted help :'c But next time I went there to get my own two, he wasn't in the tank anymore... so I figured he must've died because of something as st*pid as constipation. Which both my orandas had too! Angry I was feeding them lots of worms and peas for days to make them more active and healthy! And this is just st*pid since these are worth 10 around here anyway! Isn't that enough motivation?!
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Re: Does Anyone Have "Bare" Bottom Tank?
« Reply #25 on: June 21, 2010, 04:53:23 AM »

LOL Violent rampage XD

I know. all of the fish Ive seen have some degree of ragged fins, effed up eyes, SOMETHING weird... I wanna look at the manager and say "TAKE CARE OF YOUR FISH!"


and then of course punch him in the teeth
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Re: Does Anyone Have "Bare" Bottom Tank?
« Reply #26 on: June 21, 2010, 06:52:25 AM »

I've seen multiple half eaten fish in tanks with goldfish!!! And other generally peaceful fish, so I don't think it was a case of murder or that was meant to be feed to them. At the same place, they had a show tank and there was a little black moor stuck in the plants so I told them and they just said"Yeah it's dying and the other fish are eating it" (it was in with non-goldfish). Did they not think that by removing it from the tank that they could have saved that poor little fish's life!!! That's at one of those general pet shops though who probably know nothing about fish or most animals, they probably just like puppies *sigh*
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Re: Does Anyone Have "Bare" Bottom Tank?
« Reply #27 on: June 21, 2010, 09:17:32 AM »

thats fishicide! Angry you diont feed fish to other fish! especially not fancy fish!!!
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Re: Does Anyone Have "Bare" Bottom Tank?
« Reply #28 on: June 21, 2010, 12:28:09 PM »

u should break into her place and steal the fish.
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Re: Does Anyone Have "Bare" Bottom Tank?
« Reply #29 on: June 21, 2010, 11:51:29 PM »

thats always an option hahahahaha not entirely legal though XD
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