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April
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New tank - Marineland Cube 27 gallon and stand
« on: October 27, 2010, 08:11:31 PM »

Here is my new tank  Grin can't wait to set it up! It has an incredibly bright LED light that when switched to the 'night' setting makes some fluorescent objects glow! Look at the size of my little 'porkbelly' Tailer ♥ I think he's gonna love having his own room now LOL
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Re: New tank - Marineland Cube 27 gallon and stand
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2010, 10:46:07 PM »

Oooo that is nice Smiley Is this so you could get Mr. Tailer a friend? Make sure you take your time with cycling and keep a close eye on the water once you've added Mr. Tailer due to mini cycles.

He gets more gorgeous every day, I love his big belly is white Cheesy

I can't wait to see it all set up. What are you doing with your old tank?
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Re: New tank - Marineland Cube 27 gallon and stand
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2010, 11:34:37 PM »

What a beautiful tank!  Mr. tailer sure is lucky to have a friend like you! Smiley
Mr. tailer is a gorgeous fish and so healthy looking!
You could always keep the old tank for a hospital tank or a quarantine tank for that new friend and any live plants you may decide to buy. Wink
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Re: New tank - Marineland Cube 27 gallon and stand
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2010, 12:18:50 AM »

Thank you so much Andrea and Minde Smiley I added a few more pics just now of the lighting fixture and filter. Do you think this size filter will do for a 27 gallon tank? I know it says it is for up to 60 gallons but I hope that the water flow isn't too mental and strong as to make it hard for my buddy to get around or relax at times...I was going to get the size down from this but remembered how much filtration goldies need especially if I get another fish. And for certain I will take care of setting up this tank properly and seed it with substrate from the little aquarium, cycle and good bacteria Smiley

I am so excited about decorating this as the depth of it gives a great deal of space to place different things. I read that Ryukin goldies like to explore around their tanks so hopefully I can find something special and large enough for Tailer to swim thru  Grin Also picked up a bottle of Aqueon water treater as recommended. Promise to keep you posted my fish loving friends.
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Re: New tank - Marineland Cube 27 gallon and stand
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2010, 03:42:30 AM »

Hey April, this tank looks fantastic, and it will be special by the time you'll have it set up. Yes, take your time with cycling, and add beneficial bacteria every day for the first week, even if you use some of the old substrate.

What are ypur decorating plans? Or perhaps it is a surprise, lol Cheesy. Cannot wait to see pics of the new set up.

Mr. Tailer will be very happy in there. Will you get him a little Lady?  Wink
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Re: New tank - Marineland Cube 27 gallon and stand
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2010, 03:57:08 AM »

Wow! Awesome tank! Smiley I love that kind of light! I've got that blue light in my biOrb and I used while keeping the first three goldfish of mine Smiley It was so beautiful in the evenings, glowing blue like that Cheesy

Make sure you get an air stone with air pump! It's really cheap, but it'll totally be worth it Wink Not only does it make the tank look more beautiful, but it will also help oxygenating the water Smiley Which is needed here since your tank is rather higher instead of longer Smiley Goldfish need lots of oxygen!

I am pretty sure that filter will be enough. But you could always tell me how much water per hour it turns! That'd let us know for sure Smiley Sometimes filtration is pretty weak even for bigger systems because tropicals aren't as messy as goldfish, and the filters are usually made on the basis of tropical fish.

Are you going to buy live plants for him later? Smiley In that case, do as mindemae suggested and keep them separately in the small tank for a few weeks or so, in case there would be parasites on them! You wouldn't want any ich or anything in your new, beautiful tank Smiley And also, about the ornaments, if I was you, I'd really try avoiding getting any swim-through objects... Ryukins grow really big, and ROUND, so it'd be even harder for them to get through anything.
Hanna had this accident with her fish when she had some tunnel-y something in her tank, and little Hump had gotten stuck in it and broken his dorsal fin Sad She treated him with Melafix though, so he was fine, but it's always good to avoid. The fish might just get some worse wounds or something Undecided You could get something small with a hole in though, where the fish won't fit in at all and in turn won't even try Cheesy That works, and it's much safer for the fish Smiley
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Re: New tank - Marineland Cube 27 gallon and stand
« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2010, 04:12:07 AM »

Yes, Nossie is right, a bubble stone is amazing, Mr. Tailer will love that spa, and please avoid too small swim-through-thingys, as fishy grows there is danger to get stuck. Went through those worries with Hump, in early stages of our fish-keeping-inexperience,
couldn't dee Hump in the tank, only Hep and a stone with a tail fin..... Shocked
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Re: New tank - Marineland Cube 27 gallon and stand
« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2010, 10:14:42 AM »

Hi April,
That filter may be a bit overkill.  Smiley That will be alot of movement for the tank.  That will run like 325 gph!
I would have gone with the 30.  It is sufficient for 30-45 gallon tanks and the gph is 200!  More than sufficient for a 27g tank and 2 fish.  Most filters run lower gph so you have to buy the largest to get the suffcient gph waterflow.  With the Aqueon filters they have a higher gph flowand they are very powerful.  I love the fact that the intake wand is adjustable too.  You will want to pull that down to the lowest it can go. Smiley I use the Aqueon 30 in my 30 gallon tank.  It does a very good job as long as you do regular water changes which I know you will. Wink
With an added bubbler You will get enough air flow at the surface, for a good gas exchange. Smiley

Now I'm looking at your tank and it does seem kinda tall.
How tall is it btw?
Maybe you will need the 55 filter?
Hmm..I would do this put the filter in the tank after you fill it and try it, if the water flow seems too much then you can always take it out and wipe it off and take it back to the store and get the 30-45 one. Smiley
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Re: New tank - Marineland Cube 27 gallon and stand
« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2010, 01:17:33 PM »

I love the Aqueon filter but I am not certain about it's size, however it is very sleek so it will slide perfectly in behind the glass top of the tank. I love the light too so pretty in blue and brilliant on daylight setting. It's only 1 watt per lamp too which will be good for my hydro bills Grin The dimensions are 18" tall by 18" deep by 20" wide. I will test drive the filter without any filter media and see how the water moves. Thanks again ladies, I so appreciate your advice and knowledge!
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Re: New tank - Marineland Cube 27 gallon and stand
« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2010, 01:52:13 PM »

aqueon 55= 325 gallons per hour
aqueon 30-45= 200 gallons per hour

My 30 gallon tank is 16 3/4 inches tall
The aqueon 55 might be fine.
I tried the 55 in my tank but even with the intake tube all the way up it was too low and touched the gravel and then I just thought a bit too powerful with poor little Smidget in that tank, so I went with the 30 instead! Cheesy
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Re: New tank - Marineland Cube 27 gallon and stand
« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2010, 06:19:04 PM »

I hooked up the Aqueon 55 to the tank and love that the intake pipe can be adjusted up to 5 or 6 inches! With it all the way down the water current is strong but I don't think overly so. Will let it run overnight without any media and see if I can stand the sound of it first of all. In decorating it I could place something large in the path of the water flow to dissipate the waves a little. I dropped a plastic golf ball with holes in the tank to see how it moves around. It is lighter than my fish and doesn't seem to be flying around in any crazy fashion. We'll see how tonight goes and if all is well, will go ahead with inserting the filter media and begin cycling Smiley
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Re: New tank - Marineland Cube 27 gallon and stand
« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2010, 06:59:16 PM »

Minde: excellent info about filters, I learned sth again  Wink

April: very good ides to try it out like you do  Wink
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Re: New tank - Marineland Cube 27 gallon and stand
« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2010, 11:45:49 PM »

Hi April, I thought you may like this one Wink
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Re: New tank - Marineland Cube 27 gallon and stand
« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2010, 11:54:38 PM »

awww, Hanna you crack me up!!  That picture is sooo cute!!
 Cheesy

April, that sounds good about the filter.  My Aqueon filters are super quiet.  With the media in it it should hardly make any noise.
Does it make a loud noise?  If it does then something might be wrong with it. Huh
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« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2010, 12:36:09 AM »

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awww, Hanna you crack me up!!  That picture is sooo cute!!
 Cheesy


LOL, Minde I had fun with it, thinking about Mr. Tailor's future Lady, lol
Must say: Mr.Tailor is Aprils original, not mine, only added the future Mrs.Tailor, lol
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Re: New tank - Marineland Cube 27 gallon and stand
« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2010, 03:01:47 AM »

There's no such thing as overkilll with filtration, the more the better, no matter what! However, I know that the fish won't like too strong currents, which is why I've aimed my filter outflows in the way that it bothers them the least Smiley They make the surface move, and good water circulation, but I'm stopping them against the tank walls to avoid too strong currents inside the tank.
It's usually possible to control the strength of the outflow, if you'd look for some small switch or something Cheesy

Good luck with cycling! Smiley
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Re: New tank - Marineland Cube 27 gallon and stand
« Reply #16 on: October 29, 2010, 03:03:14 AM »

Aww Hanna that is the cutest pic ever! I'm melting Wink Thank you ♥ it is funny as I spent a little time staring at Mr. Tailer's ...well...butt tonight (lmao) to see if he displayed what you suggested in shape and I do believe he is in fact male even though his 'junk' is well and neatly packed away in his abdomen. Fish are so classy like that - same with birds, very sleek and hydrodynamic/aerodynamic LOL Grin

Anyhoo it is almost 4 am here and I'm thinking I should maybe hit the hay but just wanted to mention I could not stand the noise of that filter and it has been carefully dried and will be put back in the box to be exchanged. I will check out one of those Fluval canister units - maybe they are quieter? This one wasn't bad and the hum was doable but the sound of the water flowing out of it and the dripping sound drove me nuts and did not make for a peaceful tank that I intend to spend countless hours in front of :0) A beautiful machine though and very well made. No priming necessary just plug in and go. Minde you did mention it is quieter with the media pads in it? I didn't try it with them in it as I didn't want to open the packages if thinking of exchanging them...now I am curious if that makes a big difference...what to do what to do I'll get back to you fine fish forum friends soon good night!
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Re: New tank - Marineland Cube 27 gallon and stand
« Reply #17 on: October 29, 2010, 03:07:36 AM »

Thanks Nossie! I agree with the filtration being key and the more the better. Perhaps I can find a submersable unit that will move the water beautifully and with less dripping. I could hear it clear on the other side of the house and the tank is fully filled with water, very curious indeed. I will sleep on this for sure, good night Smiley
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Re: New tank - Marineland Cube 27 gallon and stand
« Reply #18 on: October 29, 2010, 03:19:23 AM »

I've got a Fluval 4 filter!! Guess I mentioned it already, but it's really good with lots of space for filter media Smiley You might wanna check it out! Wink And that has for sure an outflow that you can control if you want Smiley I'm running it on lowest outflow and it stills blows my fish away when they're smart enough to go right into the outtake d:
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Re: New tank - Marineland Cube 27 gallon and stand
« Reply #19 on: October 29, 2010, 08:40:53 AM »

april, did you adjust the dial on the bottom of the filter?  so that the filter would sit flat against the side of the tank? If it's not sitting flush it will make more noise causing a vibration sound.  Smiley
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Re: New tank - Marineland Cube 27 gallon and stand
« Reply #20 on: October 29, 2010, 08:52:42 PM »

I'm going to check that one out Nossie, I do like the way you can set up the stages in a canister and I had considered one prior to getting this one. The Aqueon is a high quality unit for sure but just not for me. I did adjust that smart dial on the bottom Minde - another great feature, but the dripping noise continued. I'm off tomorrow to see what others I can try and will keep you posted Smiley
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Re: New tank - Marineland Cube 27 gallon and stand
« Reply #21 on: October 29, 2010, 08:58:36 PM »

Here is a photo of the Aqueon 55 on the side of my tank.
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Re: New tank - Marineland Cube 27 gallon and stand
« Reply #22 on: October 29, 2010, 09:28:02 PM »

Well, the fluval canister filter is great, I have that too on my 75g.  It is a bit more work than the power filters in that you have to lug the thing out and when full of water it is heavy.  I alternate with the media bags in the filler baskets and throw only half out each month and add a new one which, of couse the baskets take 2 media bags each and then the ceramic noodles in the top basket.  The noodles you can keep a good long while. I rinse the sponges and the media and noodles with the tank water that is left in the fluval when you unhook it.   Smiley
Well good luck in whatever you decide to get! Smiley 
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Re: New tank - Marineland Cube 27 gallon and stand
« Reply #23 on: October 30, 2010, 02:23:36 AM »

I think Minde and I are talking about different filters d: Mine is an internal power filter, and you fit two sheets of biological filter media on the sides inside of it Smiley On the 4 (biggest) they are really big, and that would be to the benefit of your goldfish, since biological filtration is the most important kind of filtration in a goldfish tank!
You can fit this one slightly below the water line, or how deep under water you might want it! But to make sure you get most oxygen possible into the water, you should barely cover the top of it. That way, there won't be any dripping noise Smiley

My tank sometimes confuses me, it sounds like a waterfall in the night, so I'm not sure if it's raining outside or not since I can't hear it d:
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Re: New tank - Marineland Cube 27 gallon and stand
« Reply #24 on: October 30, 2010, 04:38:15 AM »

That waterfall sound is very familiar to me too, and yes, sometimes I'm not sure either if it's raining outside or not and if I cannot go asleep straight away, it is stimulating too, lol, especially if you had a beer before going to bed, haha.

We use an internal filter in the goldie tank ( towards the UG filter with power head ) it turns 1500 l per hour.
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Re: New tank - Marineland Cube 27 gallon and stand
« Reply #25 on: October 31, 2010, 03:07:50 PM »

Thank you Minde, Nossie and Hanna. The filtration is vital and that is why I am being so picky as I want this tank set up the best possible way so Mr. Tailer can live a long healthy life (with a friend eventually  Kiss )I returned the Aqueon without issue and bought the Whisper EX70 power filter and it was much better (zero dripping sound and only a minor vibration) this is another beautiful machine but not for me. I figured out why the sound from the motor is so loud. The tank is situated in a corner and the space behind it is amplifying the sound. So after watching several videos online, I've decided to fork out the dough and by the RENA filstar unit and set everything up below and inside the cabinet. I have 46 inches from floor to water line in tank so I should be ok as I read that a minimum of 27 inches is required in length from machine intake to the tanks water line in order for it to be efficient.
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Re: New tank - Marineland Cube 27 gallon and stand
« Reply #26 on: October 31, 2010, 03:44:34 PM »

An external filter then? In that case, it's great! Smiley It'll definitely have room for all the biological filtration you need! And it doesn't need to be maintained very often either since they're usually pretty large! Cheesy
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« Reply #27 on: October 31, 2010, 05:04:52 PM »

This sounds really great and it also means that you will be able to set up  the tank pretty soon. WOW how exciting.
Cannot wait to see pics, lol
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Re: New tank - Marineland Cube 27 gallon and stand
« Reply #28 on: October 31, 2010, 07:23:55 PM »

Oh good!  that is a very nice external filter, like my fluval canister. Smiley
I think you will like it! Wink
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