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pappy-fish81
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Dropsy?
« on: November 22, 2010, 03:16:17 PM »

One of my china Dolls has a very round belly and scales sticking out.  Huh
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Hanna
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Re: Dropsy?
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2010, 04:04:55 PM »

Oh noooo Pappy..... this sounds like dropsy  Sad

Do you have medicated food to feed with?

Hope Minde will be on soon, she knows much more about it and how to treat, also Nossie.

I'll keep fingers crossed that all will be fine
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Re: Dropsy?
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2010, 04:51:55 PM »

You sure?! In this case, TREAT IMMEDIATELY!
Buy some fish antibiotic like Furanol 2 or Maracyn 2 to treat the water with and try to find some medicated fish food asap!
A concentration of Epsom salts or medical aquarium salt may help as well Smiley It's usually adviced on stronger medications to add some salt to the tank first. After a 50% water change.

I really hope your fish will be alright! Smiley
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Re: Dropsy?
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2010, 06:46:58 PM »

I think you know how to treat, you're pretty resourceful.  But anyway this is what we did when my sisters fish, recently had dropsy.
1) Raise the tank water to 80F
2) Add Epsoms salts 1/4 tsp per gallon of water
3) Added Marcyn II ..this worked the best. Gave two consecutive treatments according to pkg directions.
4) Feed Antibiotic medicatd food ONLY for 2 weeks.  We used Jungle brand.

Fish made a full recovery and is still swimming happily! Smiley
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pappy-fish81
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Re: Dropsy?
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2010, 01:53:56 AM »

Oh my Sad  Okay I will do that right away, I appreciate the help. Smiley
I have both the medicated food by Jungle.
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Re: Dropsy?
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2010, 01:57:04 AM »

Her/his belly is very round like a ball and it doesn't look normal like the rest of the fish. Sad
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Re: Dropsy?
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2010, 03:17:19 AM »

Hope the treatment will work... Undecided
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Re: Dropsy?
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2010, 10:35:06 AM »

You separated her to a hospital tank, right? It's important that you treat only the fish that needs it when such strong medicines are needed.
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Re: Dropsy?
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2010, 11:40:45 AM »

When you raise the temp and add the epsom salts, if she has dropsy, you may see the scales raise.
My sisters fish was so bloated that he actually had ulcers, erupt at his sides! Shocked
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Re: Dropsy?
« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2010, 03:18:29 PM »

Wishing you the best Pappy with your poor sick little fish, hoping the treatment will be a success.
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Re: Dropsy?
« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2010, 01:24:16 AM »

Thank you Smiley
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Re: Dropsy?
« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2010, 12:55:59 PM »

My favorite fish had dropsy and have a few hopefully helpful words for you:

If what you're dealing with really is this disease, you have to maintain perfect water quality. Dropsy can be caused from a liver failure and if that is the case the chances are slim your fish will survive. Other causes could be bad water quality for a long time, a bacterial infection, parasites, or even cancer. Overheating can also trigger dropsy-like symptoms. It is imperative to treat this early on. In later stages the fish will be unable to eat or keep food down. Try to avoid stressing the fish as much as possible.

When my fish had dropsy I found lowering the temperature helped. It slows down the heart rate of the fish and the scales tend to flatten more against the sides of its body.

If you decide not to use medications, a natural remedy that helps the fish not be so stressed is garlic. It also helps with bacterial infections, lowers blood pressure, and generally sooths the suffering animal.

Are you seeing any blood hemmorhaging/red ulcers on the body, fins, or head? If so, you know it's getting worse. Remember that problems like this are often very hard to treat. If you know the fish is not going to make it, I would advise you to consider putting him/her down to relieve it from its pain. But hopefully he'll make it!!!

Good luck and fight the good fight Wink
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Re: Dropsy?
« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2010, 04:52:32 PM »

Update on the China Doll:
We transferred her in the hospital tank by herself with two sponge filters , and we put 2 teaspoons of epsom salt, added the medication by Jungle Fungus Clear Tank Buddies Fizz Tab System. I don't have Maracyn at the moment I used it last time to treat Lily of her fin rot. We raised the temperature a little bit and I added  API Stress Zyme in the tank. I'm feeding her Anti-Bacteria Medicated Fish Food by Jungle. So far I don't see any blood hemmorhaging/red ulcers on her body, fins or head, she's swimming actively.  Smiley
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Re: Dropsy?
« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2010, 05:07:44 PM »

Keep fingers crossed that she's getting better
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« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2010, 05:20:00 PM »

Thanks Hanna Smiley
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« Reply #15 on: November 24, 2010, 05:35:32 PM »

Oh good, I hope she will recover quickly. Smiley
I like that Fungus Eliminator by Jungle I must say.
It sure works good and will cover any secondary infections too.
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« Reply #16 on: November 24, 2010, 05:41:15 PM »

Mindemae: Her belly is a little bit less bloated today. Just a tiny bit though and she's not acting sick at all. Smiley Always hungry and gobbles the medicated food right away. Smiley
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Re: Dropsy?
« Reply #17 on: November 24, 2010, 10:37:35 PM »

That is wonderful!
I think you caught it soon enough.
She should make a full recovery!! Smiley
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Re: Dropsy?
« Reply #18 on: November 25, 2010, 01:27:21 AM »

Thank God, Smiley
But then tonight my Ranchu, Persimmon, was having buoyancy issues and floating upside down and so we put her in with the other one in the hospital tank and now seems to be starting to do some better. Smiley
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Re: Dropsy?
« Reply #19 on: November 25, 2010, 01:48:57 AM »

Glad you caught this early and have been able to treat it so well Smiley Best of luck!
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« Reply #20 on: November 25, 2010, 02:14:45 AM »

Me too! Smiley
Thank you Andrea Smiley
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Re: Dropsy?
« Reply #21 on: November 25, 2010, 03:31:51 AM »

Goldiegirl: Total karma for you! That's a very helpful post Smiley It's always good that someone with experience in treating a disease come forward and helps Smiley

pappy: I'm so happy for you!! That's great news!! Just be sure you treat her until all symptoms will go away Smiley
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« Reply #22 on: November 25, 2010, 08:19:41 AM »

Thank you Nossie Smiley
I'll definitely do that!
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Re: Dropsy?
« Reply #23 on: November 26, 2010, 01:48:29 PM »

Nossie: Thanks for the karma! Wink It's funny how looking back on my fishkeeping experience I can see how many problems I've encountered. I lost Elsie Amber due to Dropsy - surprisingly not through any thing I did wrong...I bought  her that way and didn't notice the slight 'pineconing' of scales. The owner of the shop wanted fifteen dollars for her, but for some reason lowered it to eight when we asked if we could buy her...suspicious right? Well soon enough she was very ill and it had gotten to the point where I couldn't do anything for her and we had to put her down. In the process I found out a lot about the disease though, so it was a good experience.

pappy-fish: great to hear your china doll is making a comeback!!! Cheesy yippee and good job!!!
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Re: Dropsy?
« Reply #24 on: November 26, 2010, 04:17:17 PM »

WOW Pappy,  such wonderful news!!!!!  Cheesy

Goldiegirl this is sad, selling you a sick fish....
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Re: Dropsy?
« Reply #25 on: November 27, 2010, 04:10:07 AM »

Goldiegirl: That's just plain... mean! I think the people in the shop should've warned you that she was sick! Undecided
They did that here when we wanted some clown loaches, they refused to sell them since there was an outbreak of ich going on in their tank.
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Re: Dropsy?
« Reply #26 on: November 27, 2010, 04:14:33 PM »

Yes, I was furious after her passing with the shop owner...so now I don't go there anymore. I don't trust scams like that...just trying to make a buck! Ugh. I think if a shop owner knows they have a sick fish they should either treat it seperately or put it down. Simple as that.
And good that the store you went to was honest! I wish everybody did that around here. Save everyone a bunch of grief.
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« Reply #27 on: November 28, 2010, 04:47:23 AM »

Absolutely! I really avoid pet shops that are unpleasant to visit, as in, you notice that the people don't know what they're doing, or the tanks look unfresh or... you know.
Nicely enough, I've got some pretty good contacts in the pet shops I visit Smiley And I find that a huge plus! I can ask for anything I need in all of them Smiley
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Re: Dropsy?
« Reply #28 on: November 29, 2010, 02:37:43 AM »

Thank you Goldiegirl and Hanna Cheesy
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Re: Dropsy?
« Reply #29 on: December 26, 2010, 11:32:14 PM »

My China Doll is happy and healthy again.  Smiley
Thank you ladies for your advice and support. Smiley
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