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Andrea
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Re: My poor baby Cappy please help! i love her <3
« Reply #30 on: December 27, 2010, 06:53:42 AM »

Nossie: Stupidly in my head because I have never used gallons, I don't really imagine in my head how big it is until someone like you points it out. If that makes sense  Undecided 20 gallon tanks are great and I would highly recommend one, it seemed like a lot of work to me at first and it is compared to a 6 gallon one in terms of water changes. I really can't imagine having a 80 gallon tank Cheesy

Novaguin: Could be true seems a bit weird to go into the snow to get your water tested when you have a kit at home  Huh I wouldn't do it!
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Andrea
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Re: My poor baby Cappy please help! i love her <3
« Reply #31 on: December 27, 2010, 06:57:16 AM »

Remember Nossie people are just thinking of the fishies welfare Smiley
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Re: My poor baby Cappy please help! i love her <3
« Reply #32 on: December 27, 2010, 06:59:06 AM »

The most strange part to me is the nitrate reading. Around 90% of the population will split between the highest and lowest figure. Yes that is made up, but it seems about right to me. I could be wrong. 15ppm might be very commom, but it just seems strange in this particular instance, where the ammonia and nitrite reading suddenly appears to be 0.
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Re: My poor baby Cappy please help! i love her <3
« Reply #33 on: December 27, 2010, 10:45:42 AM »

Novaguin, I hope this not the case because she will only be risking the health of her fish.
Besides, why lie?  That would be like shooting yourself in the foot so to speak!
Water quality must come first before treatment or most of the time treatment won't work and the medicines might do more damage than good to the fish! Undecided
 
 
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Nossie
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Re: My poor baby Cappy please help! i love her <3
« Reply #34 on: December 27, 2010, 11:15:10 AM »

I think she might have tested the water right after a water change or something at most. Then the results won't come out right.

But you never know! Undecided Some people could try getting out of "work" so to speak, by claiming that all is well in their tank without it really being so. So that we can't blame them in case the fish actually die in the end.

Now this is in no way supporting the lie theory, it's more of a thinking out loud Wink
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Re: My poor baby Cappy please help! i love her <3
« Reply #35 on: December 27, 2010, 01:38:23 PM »

Hey guys thanks I went out today and got medicated food and I also got a 30 gallon tank. I am a 20 year old college student so with the pay I'm getting from my small job I think that is a pretty good size Smiley and I wouldn't lie about reading cus it could save my fishes life at the moment but thanks everyone for the heLp so far Smiley also I put a little salt in cappy container.
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Re: My poor baby Cappy please help! i love her <3
« Reply #36 on: December 27, 2010, 03:28:50 PM »

Glad to hear that! Smiley But do remember that you can't keep all your 7 goldfish in that tank!
Sadly you could keep 3, and a maximum of 4. But it would be more work keeping more fish in the tank than what's recommended, so do try to find a new home for a few of your fish Smiley

First things first though! Try to get them all back to health before you do anything else! You can start setting up the tank already, and add only one or two fish for starters after 2-3 days! Smiley
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Re: My poor baby Cappy please help! i love her <3
« Reply #37 on: December 27, 2010, 06:12:11 PM »

So basically Nossie, you say that what I suggested is C>R>A>P
 Musicgal got 7 fish, OK?
7 fish ARE sick.

In earlier posts on other threads YOU always said 10 gal per goldfish. RIGHT?

So what the... is wrong me suggesting it, trying to help and explain musicgal about GF keeping?
What is wrong about saying set the tank up asap? ( Of course it won't make the fish healthy in one second, I'm not s.t.u.p.i.d )

You got yourself a 80gal tank and said in earlier posts it is easier to maintain a bigger tank than a smaller one. And we all know this is the case.
I understand that not everybody can just go and get a 80 gal tank brandnew and straight away, but there are also 2nd hand tanks on ebay, craigslist, traidingpost, etc, newspaper, one can have complete setups for an apple and an egg.

I advised according to 7 sick goldfish only and if you think that what I said was wrong.. well... thanks for running me down...I'll just give it a miss in the future.
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Re: My poor baby Cappy please help! i love her <3
« Reply #38 on: December 27, 2010, 06:34:31 PM »

I wouldn't add any fish , since they are already weakened from being sick to an uncycled tank!! period!!
You can cycle your tank without stressing your fish anymore than they already are by adding a bit of fish food to your tank daily and adding beneficial bacteria booster to your new tanks filter media
I would put the fish in thwe new tank only after it shows zero ammonia and nitrites and a bit of nitrates begin to show.
THEN I would only put 1 -2 in the new tank and watch for a week and add one more if the water parametrs stay level every week or so after that.  Smiley
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Re: My poor baby Cappy please help! i love her <3
« Reply #39 on: December 27, 2010, 07:59:02 PM »

Hey quick question Hun, how old is your beneficial bacteria cycle product?  That stuff expires fairy quickly and once it is open it really dies fast. The live bacteria can only live so long. If your stuff is fairly new then sorry disregard my question but I just thought might be a good idea to be sure it's fresh.

Also not all cycle products are all that great maybe people on here can give you some advice on which they have had work well for them. The one I use is hard to find, you can get if online at bigals or petmountain and it cycles my tank if used properly almost instantly. I have used this on my tanks for many months now on new tanks (90 gal, 75 gal, 55gal and 40 gal) and I do about 75% waterchanges very often and I have had no problems with my tanks water quality since I started. It's called super-bac nitrifying bacteria for fresh water. But you probably have to get it online so someone here might know of one they trust that is good that's easier to get.

As for large tanks. I Have tanks from 5 gallons (betta tank lol) all the way up to a 90 gallon and I find the large ones easy to care for also. Of course draining and filling will take longer but if you get one of those drain kits you hook to faucet Omg it's so easy. You can get one for under $30. I know this stuff all adds up so might take you awhile to save for what you need. I find the drain kit a wonder to have for anysize tank. What is the biggest pain on larger tanks is the wipe down of glass. And reaching into it lol.

All oh this is your personal preference. I know trying to decide to get rid of one of your babies is very hard.

I do not recommend this but I know it is possible you will do it. But if you do decide against advice to end up keeping the fish that survive in the 30 gallon you got. Then please do waterchanges at least twice a week minimum. And incase you don't know this don't clean or change filter media same day as water changes and if possibly in between media changes rinse it in discarded tank water occasionally.
Also if you are afraid of a large tank you could get a second tank the right size for rest of fish to put in another room once you have some money. ( you could get a decent tank cheap on craigs list with a filter) I find a tank in my bedroom a wonderful thing.

I hope your fish recover. Good luck on getting this all setup the best for you and your babies.
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Re: My poor baby Cappy please help! i love her <3
« Reply #40 on: December 27, 2010, 08:37:48 PM »

Everyone here pretty much covered what to do to save your precious fishes.  Smiley
What I used to cycle my first 55 gallon tank was a few buckets of old water from the small tank. I added Stability by Seachem in the tank. I just simply followed the direction on the bottle. After that all my tanks are cycled that way. I hope I'm making sense. I agree with Aimee you have to keep up with the water changes. It's very important to keep water parameters in check especially if you have sick fish. I would also recommend adding Stresszyme by API in your tank.  Smiley
Good luck on your fish. I hope they make it through. Smiley
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Andrea
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Re: My poor baby Cappy please help! i love her <3
« Reply #41 on: December 27, 2010, 09:03:25 PM »

Well with one 10 gallon and one 30 gallon, hopefully you be able to keep four of your fish, meaning you only have to give away 3 to hopefully loving homes which is much easier than getting rid of 6! Please remember this Smiley I totally understand you not being able to afford more but don't sacrifice your fish's health and life because of this.

I also agree with Minde in terms of the cycling, if all your fish are that sick, plonking them into an uncycled tank is not going to be good. Then only add one, wait a bit and then add maybe another one or two. No more to the 30 gallon Smiley

I'm glad you were able to get the medicated food, how is cappy doing? Is she eating it? How are the other fish? Remember to keep up with the water changes depending on your water quality.

Everyone has given great advice, unfortunately it is easy to say and not always easy to follow up on. You have to do what is right for the fish in the end but what you are also capable of.
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Re: My poor baby Cappy please help! i love her <3
« Reply #42 on: December 28, 2010, 01:57:35 AM »

Hey guys only the one fish is sick the rest of them are fine swimming happily in the tank cappy seems  a little better swimming when I walk by but that because she hoping for food (my fishes are food whores haha they love food haha) but besides that cappy still just sits at the bottom lookin sad
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Re: My poor baby Cappy please help! i love her <3
« Reply #43 on: December 28, 2010, 09:21:55 AM »

Cappy died in the night RIP cappy and thanks for the help
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Re: My poor baby Cappy please help! i love her <3
« Reply #44 on: December 28, 2010, 10:01:51 AM »

awww. poor Cappy~RIP
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Re: My poor baby Cappy please help! i love her <3
« Reply #45 on: December 28, 2010, 10:33:20 AM »

I'm sorry you lost your fish Sad But he seemed to be in really bad shape... however, now you can concentrate more on helping your other fish Smiley

Hanna: Yep, 10 gallons per fish, but in this case, I'm not saying that you're wrong, but I'm saying that most people don't have the space, money or willingness to set up such a big tank. These are just small details, and I rather tried "comforting" the person in question so that she wouldn't feel pushed to buy a monster tank right off the bat Smiley It's absolutely nothing personal!
As you noticed in the same post, I mentioned that something that big wouldn't really fit a beginner keeping fish either Smiley
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Andrea
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Re: My poor baby Cappy please help! i love her <3
« Reply #46 on: December 29, 2010, 01:13:10 AM »

I'm sorry to hear about Cappy Sad He was so bad I doubted he was going to get any better. Please focus on making sure all your other fish are healthy and seeing if you can give away 2 now or get another 20 gallon tank. Though that would be 3 tanks which is alot of work!!

What are you doing about this? Please let us know. How is the water quality in the 10 gallon tank?
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Re: My poor baby Cappy please help! i love her <3
« Reply #47 on: December 29, 2010, 01:22:53 AM »

RIP Cappy  Sad

Sorry to hear about your loss  Sad but as Andrea mentioned, how are th other fish doing? How's the waterquality in their tank?
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