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OrandaLover
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December 29, 2010, 10:19:25 AM »
Hey all! I just read through one of Goldiegirl's posts on the Nitrogen cycle, and I learned that a sign of Ammonia poisoning is torn and ragged fins. I thought "hey, that was happening to MY goldies!"
I've been saving up money for a while, so can you guys tell me of any GOOD ammonia testing kits or something? It doesn't have to be super cheap - but preferably something found at PetCo
Thanks!
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Nossie
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December 29, 2010, 01:41:35 PM »
It would be more economical to buy a test kit that contains a set of tests
Usually pH, ammonia, nitrite and nitrate are included.
I use a test by Tetra, it takes AGES to see the results of it but... it's worked so far
I've heard other people on the forum recommending API test kits...??
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OrandaLover
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December 29, 2010, 01:49:06 PM »
hm.. I haven't heard of the Tetra, but I've heard of API
I'll go check out PetCo in early January
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Hanna
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December 29, 2010, 01:55:38 PM »
Hi Oranda Lover,
here is a link about API Master Test Kit for Freshwater.
I believe most of us on here use this one, it is very economical containing the tests for Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrate and pH.
It is very accurate too, much better than paper strips anyway.
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Goldiegirl
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December 29, 2010, 09:07:33 PM »
Oh dear Orandalover! Good job going to get ammonia tested (glad my post influenced you tee hee
) In the mean time before you settle on the best tester kit for your pets, why not get the ammonia level tested at your LFS? Most stores that sell fish provide free water testing for their customers.
Your fish may or may not be suffering from an ammonia problem...sometimes goldies will occasionally nip eachother's fins, causing tears in the fins. This is what my Coal's fins looked like before he died of ammonia poisoning. If they look like these, you deffinately have a problem:
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Andrea
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December 30, 2010, 12:50:26 AM »
Hopefully she would be able to tell the difference between a fin nip and fin rot, I doubt this is a situation of that. I believe your tank is probably going through a mini cycle due to the move which probably disturbed and killed off some good bacteria.
Most liquid tests found in good pet shops should be good, I also use API and everyone I know uses it and it's great. For now, like goldiegirl said you can get it tested by the pet shop because it is definitely a problem if you are seeing ammonia and you need to great rid of it asap. It may also involve some treatment but sort out your water first
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Mindemae
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December 30, 2010, 05:55:37 AM »
I use API liquid master test kit.
Not all ammonia tests are the same. Some you cannot use with certain water condtioners as it will give a false reading.
The API ammonia test (liquid) can be used with any water condtioner and give you the most accurate reading.
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Nossie
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December 30, 2010, 09:54:31 AM »
Tears from physical damage (ie. nipping, getting stuck in decor/filtration) are usually really clean to the shape and most of the time not many. They look just like a cut in the fins with clean edges. It happened sometime before to my little moor that he had a long tear in his tail, but it went away already after two days all on its own.
Fin rot and infections followed by water quality issues or physical trauma on the fish, will have a ragged appearance and sometimes show some white edges.
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OrandaLover
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December 30, 2010, 10:30:00 AM »
I think it was Ammonia poisoning - Nugget has a couple black scars on his sides. I think I'll get the API test kit!
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Goldiegirl
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December 30, 2010, 01:05:06 PM »
Black scars are a sure sign of an ammonia problem. But it's also a sign of healing. Andrea is probably right...it was most likely a mini glitch cycle. That happened to me once when I cleaned the filter media in tap water instead of old tank water once
Tell me how the API test kit works out for ya! I'm thinking of getting one myself soon, since I'm getting tired of wasting gas money to go to the pet shop for my water testing every week
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OrandaLover
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December 30, 2010, 01:33:33 PM »
Thanks Goldiegirl - although if the scars are signs are healing, does it mean anything that he's had them since I got him? (2 months ago or so)
I'll let you know how the test kit works once I try it!
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Andrea
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December 31, 2010, 12:49:31 AM »
Well you will want to do something about this ammonia very soon, it sounds like it has already been a couple of days and that's not good. You should be doing a big water change depending on the results and may have to do a few more in the days after. Don't feed them too much for now, maybe not at all and watch them closely
The quicker you act the better and easier to treat.
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Nossie
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December 31, 2010, 05:37:22 AM »
If they're NOT ammonia burns, they could be some small wounds gotten when he was handled in the shop or when you moved him to your tank. Otherwise, they are most likely just damage to the skin from the ammonia present.
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OrandaLover
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January 01, 2011, 11:41:17 AM »
Alright, thanks guys!
They don't really look like small wounds, but whatever it is - ammonia or not - I did a big water change yesterday so I hope that helps!
Also - what tests does the API kit come with? I know it has Ammonia and Nitrate or Nitrite, but what else?
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January 01, 2011, 05:04:02 PM »
It comes wit tests for: Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrate and pH (low and high range) 4 test tubes with caps, reading charts, booklet how to do it.
I thought you already bought it by now
I also gave you the link so you can have a look at it
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It comes wit tests for: Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrate and pH (low and high range) 4 test tubes with caps, reading charts, booklet how to do it.
I thought you already bought it by now
I also gave you the link so you can have a look at it
Oh woopsy, I think I missed the link. I took a look at it just now though, sorry for the trouble
I'm getting it tomorrow - by early January I meant tomorrow, sorry for the confusion
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It comes wit tests for: Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrate and pH (low and high range) 4 test tubes with caps, reading charts, booklet how to do it.
I thought you already bought it by now
I also gave you the link so you can have a look at it
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Oh woopsy, I think I missed the link. I took a look at it just now though, sorry for the trouble
I'm getting it tomorrow - by early January I meant tomorrow, sorry for the confusion
It's OK, just get it as soon as you can
it is one of the important things to have... as I trust my own test results and not the petstores ones where they go at the back where you cannot see it and they return saying "all is ok" ....
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OrandaLover
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January 01, 2011, 07:40:51 PM »
okey dokey, thanks, Hanna!
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Hanna
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OrandaLover
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January 02, 2011, 10:44:26 AM »
And what you said in the other topic, I see what you mean about how important the other tests are and not the chorine. Thanks!
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January 02, 2011, 04:39:11 PM »
You are very welcome
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OrandaLover
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January 04, 2011, 02:46:56 PM »
yup - I posted this in the other topic, but might as well post it here: I couldn't find the test kit at PetCo, but the one I went to is not the usual one I visit
In a few days, I'll be going to a different (the usual) PetCo to get the test kit. But in the meanwhile, I will be changing the water every other day, including today.
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