Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
July 25, 2014, 10:57:56 AM
Home Search Search Login Register

+  Pet Goldfish - Aquarium Forum Community
|-+  Aquarium
| |-+  Health and Illness
| | |-+  Fish on bottom of pond-Help!
« previous next »
Pages: [1]
Author Topic: Fish on bottom of pond-Help!  (Read 908 times)
Jewels
Newbie
*

Karma: 0
Posts: 4


Fish on bottom of pond-Help!
« on: February 21, 2012, 01:24:23 PM »

Hello and help!  I have a 90 gal stock tank with wild born shubunkins that I rescued several years ago from a BLM stock tank (all the water leaked out).  I just found one laying sideways on the bottom.  It cant swim or stay upright.  I filled a 5 gal bucket with the pond water and brought it inside, warmed it up very gradually, put in a bubbler, but it is not recovering and is still laying sideways on the bottom.  I had one do this last year too, but it recovered.  What causes this, and what can I do to save it?  Jewels
Logged
cheri_alexander
Full Member
***

Karma: 56
Posts: 524



Re: Fish on bottom of pond-Help!
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2012, 03:30:09 PM »

At this point it is pretty unlikely that he'll make it- I'm sorry. Laying sideways on the bottom is a very bad sign. You can add one tablespoon of aqaurium or sea salt to the bucket- this is a pretty general "cure-all". Check the water quality of your pond, you can take a water sample to a petstore if you don't have a kit. How many fish do you have in the pond and what, if any, filtration?
Logged
Jewels
Newbie
*

Karma: 0
Posts: 4


Re: Fish on bottom of pond-Help!
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2012, 12:24:23 AM »

HI Cheri, thank you.  I have a big 300 gal filtration system in the tank, with a water feature for aeration.  The water comes from our well and is not treated, and has always tested very well.  In his little bucket in the house, it has aeration but not a filter yet.  If I "float" the fish in my hand, and put food in front of his mouth, he eats.  I am starting to think that maybe the fish has a physical injury, as he doesnt seem to be able to use his tail, but can move his front fins a bit.  Also, he is extremely thin.  No other signs of any disease at all. I dont know what to do.  He was a little stronger tonight, staying upright in my hand and struggling a bit, but on his own goes down to the bottom either sideways or upside down.  What is a humane way to put down a fish?  Thanks for your comments, I appreciate the advice.  Jewels
Logged
scrivens345
Sr. Member
****

Karma: 89
Posts: 820



Re: Fish on bottom of pond-Help!
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2012, 03:08:12 AM »

It could be he is mal-nourished with a swim bladder issue

try putting him in a container with a good surface area but not a great depth of water; this will lower the pressure on him.

best of luck
Logged
cheri_alexander
Full Member
***

Karma: 56
Posts: 524



Re: Fish on bottom of pond-Help!
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2012, 10:32:45 AM »

I hope he gets better! But if he does not improve in a few days and seems to be suffering, you can euthanize by placing him in a shallow dish of water and freezing it (some people wrap in a damp towel and freeze that way) or by using clove oil.
Logged
Jewels
Newbie
*

Karma: 0
Posts: 4


Re: Fish on bottom of pond-Help!
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2012, 12:47:14 PM »

Fish is now in a wide shallow container and is still alive, but still cannot swim.  What is the treatment for a swim bladder problem?  How much salt for about 1 gal of water? It will eat a little from my hand, maybe I should try a bloodworm?  Poor baby is so thin.  Oh, and its gills seem very red inside, are they supposed to be like that?  Thanks for all your help, I appreciate it.  Jewels
Logged
cheri_alexander
Full Member
***

Karma: 56
Posts: 524



Re: Fish on bottom of pond-Help!
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2012, 12:53:47 PM »

Yes the gills are supposed to be a fleshy red but not bloody. 1 tspn salt per gallon to start then you can increase it. If you suspect swim bladder then stop feeding pellets and no bloodworms. Feed only peas (shelled and cut) or small bites of plain canned pumpkin. Swim bladder disorder is often caused by constipation or gas which can be helped by diet.
Logged
Jewels
Newbie
*

Karma: 0
Posts: 4


Re: Fish on bottom of pond-Help!
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2012, 03:25:45 PM »

I added a little more salt to the container.  Have seen a very slight improvement, front fins are no longer clamped against his body, but fluffed out a bit. Have been feeding some green pea and some bloodworm.  Saw a big poop come out today, so he is not constipated.  Can stay upright for short period of time, then floats on side again. Can I post a few pictures here?  Maybe someone will spot something I am not seeing. Thank you all for the help.  I still hope to save this fish is possible.   Oh, I see the attacment place below for pics...hope I do this right.   Jewels
Logged
Pages: [1]  
« previous next »
Jump to:  
Page created in 0.345 seconds with 17 queries.