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ILoveFish19
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First Time fish haver! *Quiestion!!!* HELP!
« on: September 28, 2010, 02:42:13 PM »

Okay, I don't know how many Gallons so give two goldfish?! & Can I keep then in a fish bowl just for like a few Months?! Huh Thanks Smiley  Kiss
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Hanna
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Re: First Time fish haver! *Quiestion!!!* HELP!
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2010, 04:03:52 PM »

Simply NO

NEVER KEEP GOLDFISH IN A BOWL

Goldfish need a proper tank, 10 gallons for ONE fish is minimum. You also will need good filtration , aeration and live plants, a good variety of quality food.
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Re: First Time fish haver! *Quiestion!!!* HELP!
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2010, 09:39:27 PM »

i agree with hanna, if you keep gf in a bowl without proper filtration, they will eat their own pup  Cheesy  (LOL )
They will poisoing their own pup
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Re: First Time fish haver! *Quiestion!!!* HELP!
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2010, 03:39:05 AM »

You need at least a 20 gallon tank for your fish, 20 gallons aren't very expensive Wink And you need to get a good, powerful filter! Get something that will turn at least 5 times your tank volume! I'm using an internal power filter and an external canister filter in my 317L, and they turn about 7 times the tank volume together Smiley Combining filtration methods is a great way to deal with the biological load in an aquarium!

It's a waste of time buying a bowl, killing off two-three fish in that and after a while getting a bigger tank. Not to mention that it's a waste of money!! So don't even think about starting off with a smaller tank either. Upgrading is again, waste of money and stressful for the fish.
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Re: First Time fish haver! *Quiestion!!!* HELP!
« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2010, 04:53:12 AM »

Goldfish aren't bowl creatures!! So no unless you want dead fish. You will need 10 gallons per goldfish as already said. If not you will have serious problems unfortunately.

Hey Nossie. How do you know much your filter turns over? Is it something that you know because yours is advertised or it's in the brochure ? Or is there a way to work it out?
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« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2010, 11:28:07 AM »

It is always mentioned on the package of the filter Smiley For what sizes of tanks it's rated, and how much water it filters per hour. At least on most better quality filters d:

Actually, mine turns about 8 times the tank volume c: Being a 300L and the filters deal with 2500L/h C:

Otherwise, if you like maths, there is a way to calculate it, but... I wouldn't go there xD
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Re: First Time fish haver! *Quiestion!!!* HELP!
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2010, 02:36:06 PM »

Okay!, I'm thinking of getting more then just 2 fish maby 5 Gold fish I can't wait to decorate there Aquarium & all!
Thanks everyone for all the replies
Cheesy & LOL Eating there own poop sounds nossias Haha
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« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2010, 03:35:42 PM »

5 goldfish means 50 gallons, okay? (Or 200 liters)
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« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2010, 09:17:07 PM »

Nossie, **** mine doesn't say and I don't like maths so no thanks Tongue It's an alright little filter I reckon though Smiley

Ilovefish19, I hope you can afford a 200 litre tank/50 gallon tank and a good filter! Do you know about the cycle too?
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« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2010, 02:35:18 AM »

Andrea: Does it say how big tank it's meant for? I should have some formula in one of my books that I could post for you c:

Ilovefish19: Right! You need to know about cycling, proper regular maintenance, feeding and WATER TESTING D:
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« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2010, 02:38:55 AM »

Well it came with the tank like it is actually part of the tank and meant for that tank, if you know what I mean  Undecided So I imagine it's meant for a 90L tank.
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« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2010, 03:24:48 AM »

ILovefish19, actually they don't "eat" their own poo, but in a small tank and not enough filtration, etc, like small tanksize they soon will swim in their own sewerage and poison themselves with all those nitrogens. They will suffer a horrible death.

So as already mentioned: 5 fish = 50 gallons

Andrea, what does it say on the tank package? Or is there a label maybe on the impeller or so?
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« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2010, 05:14:31 AM »

Andrea: If it's meant for the tank for sure, you don't need to worry Smiley But if you will notice sometime that the nitrates are building up fast, you might want to get another filter as support Smiley There's no such thing as over-filtration Wink
In my case, they sold a filter simply as a part of the "package" some low quality crap that was barely enough as filtration for the 40L! Which they were aware of in the shop of course, so I got a discount on a bigger filter Smiley
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« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2010, 06:15:01 AM »

Will do Nossie Smiley And Hanna, the only paper the tank/filter came with was how to make the stand and it was mainly in chinese haha. Lucky my boyfriend knew what to do. I'll have a look on the bit that is actually in the water tomorrow. It might say. It's like an aquaone tank, you know how they come with the filter already? Well do they normally say the rate?
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« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2010, 06:24:53 PM »

50 Gallons okay Thanks! all my Huh Are answerd! I may have a few more though LOL I know about Water testing too Its simple! I know I need Filters I'll most likely get a powerful Filter so I don't need to clean the tank as often
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« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2010, 07:58:02 PM »

Water testing is simple yet alot of people don't do it so that's why we are checking as it is very important Smiley

A powerful filter would be great but you still need to water changes at least once a fortnight (with a really good filter). Your fish will love it and though filters get rid of muck, they don't actually make the water fresh. So make sure you do regular ones Smiley
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« Reply #16 on: October 01, 2010, 02:55:51 AM »

This is true, the best filter does NOT replace water changes. Even with the best filter do 50% w/c every week because it is FRESH water. Our fishies love it and you will see how they will be more active again, it is just a joy to watch happy and active fishes.
Imagine the fresh water acts like us opening the windows and letting fresh air in  Wink
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« Reply #17 on: October 01, 2010, 01:50:29 PM »

Filters don't remove the nitrates, they will be building up slowly even with a powerful filter system. In other words, water changes are CRUCIAL to keep the water quality acceptable. A 50 gallon tank will be quite big, so you have a good "safety buffer" in that case, since bigger tank means more water, which in turn means more stable temperature and water parameters.
But don't ever think that you won't need to change water any less than every second week.
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