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Katarine
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Something may be terribly wrong with my fish...
« on: February 02, 2010, 10:06:31 PM »

When I got home today from school, I went to check on Sonorus, as is my custom. I was feeding her, when I noticed the veins in her tail fin seem to have ruptured... And its not just in her tail fin either. one on her anal fin and two pectoral fins... Oh please somebody help!
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Re: Something may be terribly wrong with my fish...
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2010, 12:26:53 AM »

This is called fin congestion.  The cause is usually poor water quality.  Long finned breeds are usually the most prone to it.  Ammonia and organic wastes must be kept very low when kepping fish with long fins.
If caught early enough, a simple 50% water change will usually clear it up in a few days.  If not, change another 50% and add 1 tsp. of salt per gallon of water.  I would also, add melafix according to directions.  I would also add extra airation in the form of a air stone.  Methylene blue can also be used.  However if the fins start to fray then it is a bacterial infection and myust be treated with an antibiotic such as pennicillin or tetracycline.  If there isn't a cure after 3 days, change out the water and repeat the treatment.
The surest cure of fin congestion is prevention so make sure your water quality is maintained at all times.  Keep the temperature and the ph in the mid range and ammonia and nitrates very low.
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Re: Something may be terribly wrong with my fish...
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2010, 12:35:22 AM »

Thanks. i did some quick research of my own.. it looks like red pest.
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Re: Something may be terribly wrong with my fish...
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2010, 12:38:07 AM »

Well that's a new one for me! What is red pest?  Never heard of it!
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Re: Something may be terribly wrong with my fish...
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2010, 09:24:20 AM »

Don't you think it might be better to treat for something that's known? Like Mindemae suggested, I think it might be best for your fish if you tried treating it like this, and see if it isn't getting any better.
Especially since you don't have any microscope to check for bacterial infections.
Besides, I think it's a pretty good diagnose, since your fish is staying in a rather small place, so it might be hard for you to keep the water quality constant. Did you try doing anything about it yet?

I really hope she'll be okay soon (:
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Re: Something may be terribly wrong with my fish...
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2010, 01:18:45 PM »

Red pest, as ive read from numerous veterinary and aquatic specialist sites, is an internal bacterial infection whose primary symptoms are red "bloody" streaks along the body and/or fins. Other symptoms include erratic swimming, hyperventilation, and hollow stomach. so far, Sonorus exibits the red streaks and erratic swimming. If i dont treat it tonight (which i whole heartedly intend to do. I hate college right now.) the bacteria could cause ulcers or even death.

See? I do my research! unfortunately, I had a panic moment. I was hoping someone else had had experience with this affliction.... :S
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Re: Something may be terribly wrong with my fish...
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2010, 01:22:30 PM »

And as far as doing anything, Nossie, i did another whole water change, disinfected her bowl, filled it up with water, added conditioner to get rid of any chlorine... my pH is slightly basic... 7.9 I'm feeding her small amounts of food more frequently (or as frequently as i can) and otherwise holding out for three o clock this afternoon to get some meds...
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Re: Something may be terribly wrong with my fish...
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2010, 01:55:33 PM »

Adding salt to her bowl would be good.
I would do limit feeding tho...as you know when they eat they poop and when they poop they pollute! Grin
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Re: Something may be terribly wrong with my fish...
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2010, 02:04:07 PM »

Well i was considering that. but i dont have any iodine free salt.... 
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Re: Something may be terribly wrong with my fish...
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2010, 02:10:33 PM »

put aquarium salt on your list.
Regular table salt has binders in it that are toxic to fish.
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Re: Something may be terribly wrong with my fish...
« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2010, 02:13:04 PM »

done, done, and done! okay. so tetracycline, aquarium salt, and a bigger bowl. ill upgrade her slowly to a tank. put in a bubbler so she gets more oxygen....... This is why i spoil my baby... cause im always worrying about her!!
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Re: Something may be terribly wrong with my fish...
« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2010, 08:37:08 PM »

Alright. I've added the tetracycline... disinfected her tank... added aquarim salt... aaaaaaaaaand shes not doing anything. She's sitting on the bottom of her bowl. Moving occasionally.. is this a sign shes not accepting  the treatment or does she just need to adjust?
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Re: Something may be terribly wrong with my fish...
« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2010, 10:13:12 PM »

I have no idea since you said she has red pest.  I have no idea how to treat red pest.
Salt usually helps fish in general with gill function and all kinds of aliments.
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Re: Something may be terribly wrong with my fish...
« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2010, 10:15:48 PM »

well ive got her meds in there now. she just seems to wanna sleep and rest... maybe do a headstand or two.. which isnt entirely normal... ohp there she goes again... nuther headstand.... she gets active when i feed her. so im feeding her supper in small amounts... nother headstand... is that normal? i took her rocks out... I think she misses them..
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Re: Something may be terribly wrong with my fish...
« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2010, 10:30:01 PM »

Just a thought but if she doesn't like the treatment she may try to jump out of the bowl.
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Re: Something may be terribly wrong with my fish...
« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2010, 10:35:10 PM »

K ill keep that in mind.. She's tried to get out before, at which i yelled "WTF st*pid FISH?!! YOULL DIE IF YOU COME OUT HERE!" that kinda kept her in there.

what about the headstand thing? is that normal?
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Re: Something may be terribly wrong with my fish...
« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2010, 10:48:01 PM »

I have no idea....if it's not the usual behavior then probably not normal.
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Re: Something may be terribly wrong with my fish...
« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2010, 10:57:30 PM »

no its not normal... maybe shes hungry.... but i dont want to over feed... ugh!! i dont know how this happened... it just popped out of nowhere and now shes acting like this... Im so scared...  Embarrassed
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Re: Something may be terribly wrong with my fish...
« Reply #18 on: February 04, 2010, 03:30:12 AM »

I think that this diagnose of yours might be similar to when humans are checking their belly ache on google.
As in: Not very reliable. No offense!

But now that you started treating her already, just keep a keen eye on her and see if she seems to be getting any more active (:
As long as she's eating as normal, I'd say that it's a good step on the way!

Did you check how to treat red pest? Did you see what might be the cause of it? (As in: What the infection comes from.)
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Re: Something may be terribly wrong with my fish...
« Reply #19 on: February 04, 2010, 01:04:46 PM »

I definitely checked with numerous sites, and the pet store person (who has had the disease before) so im pretty sure i know what it is. I mean, panic can usually produce better answers than passiveness can. It's scientific name is hemmorhagic septicemia, in case you were wondering, and after the first treatment, Sonorus is more active.. no more headstands, and shes eating all that i'm giving her. I'll do another treatment today. She's starting to develop red sores on her body though. more than yesterday, and its affecting her other fins too. I may start forcefeeding her meds... after all the infection is on the inside...
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Re: Something may be terribly wrong with my fish...
« Reply #20 on: February 04, 2010, 01:38:46 PM »

oh and the infection just pops out of nowhere. it has no trigger conditions that make it appear. I can believe that too. Ive had her for two and a half years, with nothing wrong with her. Happty, healthy, and now shes all messed up. and the headstands are normal ive concluded. she misses the stones shes so used to pushing around.
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Re: Something may be terribly wrong with my fish...
« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2010, 09:18:18 AM »

So she's getting better already?

Don't worry, I just wanted to make sure that you were certain that this is the case with your fish. Never nice to panic for nothing and treat your fish for the wrong disease. Might do more damage than good.
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Re: Something may be terribly wrong with my fish...
« Reply #22 on: February 05, 2010, 10:25:28 PM »

Yes, Nossie, she is getting better. I was right in diagnosing my fish the way i did, because if i had done what Mindemae had suggested and treated her for something else, THAT might have done more harm than good. Mind, I did get aquarium salt... need to top off my other tank tomorrow.. getting a friend for Sonorus ^^ cause my tank has been cycling now for two weeks, I added conditioner and salt. cant wait!  sorry offtopic.. Tongue
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Re: Something may be terribly wrong with my fish...
« Reply #23 on: February 05, 2010, 11:09:20 PM »

Diagnosing an illness online is often a hit and miss thing because you don't have the subject that is ill right in front of you to really see what is wrong with it.

Remember to quarantine any new fish you get , because you have to be really lucky to get a completely healthy fish from most pet stores nowadays.

Hopefully Sonorus will get better soon.
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Re: Something may be terribly wrong with my fish...
« Reply #24 on: February 05, 2010, 11:13:47 PM »

Thanks. I know the internet was hit or miss, but i really didnt have any other choice. and by the looks of things here, no one else has had any sort of experience with bloody fins. Smiley Do i get an E for effort?

and dont worry. Sonorus is pretty quarantined from any new fish i get hahahaha Tongue
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Re: Something may be terribly wrong with my fish...
« Reply #25 on: February 05, 2010, 11:21:19 PM »

Oh no, i have to give you an A+++ for the superhuman efforts you have put in the past few weeks trying to keep Sonorus healthy. Seems like she went from one illness to another and probably would not still be around without such a dedicated owner like yourself.
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Re: Something may be terribly wrong with my fish...
« Reply #26 on: February 05, 2010, 11:27:24 PM »

oh now you're exaggerating! Tongue it was only a couple days haha but im glad shes okay.. I wouldnt wish that sort of panic and heartbreak on my worst enemy... Tongue
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Re: Something may be terribly wrong with my fish...
« Reply #27 on: February 06, 2010, 03:27:11 AM »

Great to hear (: But just for your info, it's the new fish that should be quarantined. Which I guess you'll do since you have salt in the new tank already and Sonorus safely in another bowl d:
Remember to quarantine for at least one week! Preferably two, and look closely at the new fish if you can see any strange behavior Wink
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Re: Something may be terribly wrong with my fish...
« Reply #28 on: February 06, 2010, 04:04:49 PM »

I know. I'm only getting one fish, and yes, Sonorus is in another bowl so I'm not too worried about transferring diseases, since they'll never be in the same tank any time soon.
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