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Mindemae
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Methylene Blue
« on: May 29, 2010, 08:14:54 AM »

Hi Fellow Fish Friends,
Does anyone know HOW LONG you treat with Methylene Blue?  I grabbed a bottle at the store and when I got home I see where it says the dosage but not how long to treat with it?  3 days? 1 week? Longer?  Untill visable problems go away?
I went to the pet shop and got 3,  1 inch feeder goldfish to put in the barrel ponds.  I put them in the quarantine tank which is already established.   The next day I looked closely at them with a magnifying glass and they have what I believe is fin rot, ich, and fungus.  I tried the Melafix and salt which I usally use but it didn't seem to be working and I thought they needed something stronger so I started treating with the Methlene Blue.  Well it is working and they have been on the Methylene Blue for 3 days now with a oral antibiotic fish food, exclusively.  The fins have cleared up pretty well but are still a bit ragged.  How many more days to treat?  Any other suggestions?
Thanx!
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Re: Methylene Blue
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2010, 08:34:58 AM »

Hi Mindemae,

On my bottle of "Multi Cure" which is 0.40mg/ml Malachite Green and 4.00mg/ml Methylene Blue and 2.00mg/ml Acriflavine they say the following:
"A partial waterchange (25%) is recommended before commencing the treatment and every 3rd day thereafter before retreatment until cure is effected."
Water must be good aerated, and as you know no carbon filter.
So I do understand this to do the waterchange and treatment every 3rd day untill all is healed.

After all is cleared up I may think to continue a few days with the well known pimafix/Melafix tonic. What do you think?
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Re: Methylene Blue
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2010, 08:53:15 AM »

My bottle says to treat once every 24 hours as needed.. Undecided
So I'm a guessing that means until visble problems are gone?
I just thought that in some cases just because visable problems have cleared up, there might still be the bacteria that caused the problem in the first place still alive.  I just think these poor fish were double whammied in their disease.  Poor things.  Probably will treat for internal parasites next.
Well, I guess the death toll on these feeders is quite high.  I will let you know if they survive.
Thank you for the info. Smiley
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Re: Methylene Blue
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2010, 09:01:12 AM »

Ohh I hope they will be fine.
And according to the treatment it may be like with humans, sometimes it is advisable to treat for a couple of days longer after symptoms are gone. But maybe with a less strong med???

I keep fingers crossed for you, Mindamae and I feel lost that I cannot help more  Cry
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Re: Methylene Blue
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2010, 09:15:55 AM »

Oh not to worry, Hanna.  You've been a great help and a super nice goldfish friend to have. Smiley
I won't post pictures of these lovely fish until I'm sure they are going to live tho.  Sometimes you just need to talk about a problem with someone else, get a second opinion, ya know?  (In this case type Grin)
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Re: Methylene Blue
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2010, 11:38:05 AM »

You can keep methylene blue in the system as long as it's needed, goldfish are very tolerant against this medicine (: But it does have negative effects on filter bacteria, and I guess you also know that it easily stains everything d:
But as long as you have it no stronger than 3mg/liter of water there's no problem! Grin (Tried reading through the posts, but I might just have missed something xD)

How terrible with them little fish... :C I'm in the middle of a similar experience, treating like a maniac... But I'll tell you the details if you're interested! Cheesy Now, good luck with them babies of yours (:
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Re: Methylene Blue
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2010, 12:23:42 PM »

Hey there Nossie Smiley
Yes, of course we are all interested and I think it would also maybe help other goldfish keepers on this forum to share our experiences with them. Wink
I hope all your beautiful fishes are alright!
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Re: Methylene Blue
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2010, 12:33:39 PM »

They're fine and happy (: None of them have been hovering for quite a while now and the water quality is awesome! (: *delight*

The problem lies in a little golden Oranda I bought recently. He's in quarantine right now being treated for... physical damage and resulting bacterial infections (it could be something worse too), that poor thing.
I got him at a questionable shop where they separated him to his own tank, about a week ago. He was active and so cute! (: All fins erect, and he was a living bliss.
But when I came to get him yesterday, my poor guy had his dorsal completely torn apart! (Which I noticed in the car on the way home...) There were some carps put into his tank, I'm absolutely furious that they put some new, weird fish with something I want to bring home healthy! D: Imagine all the infections they might have brought!
Well, anyway, I put him into the tank with salt and a bacterial medicine against the torn fin, and noticed that his tail was also damaged, and that he had abnormal swellings and small black spots on the sides of is body!
In other words, I'm pretty sure that he's been bullied by those carps, and the brainiacs working at the pet shop (curse them all) didn't even SEE that he was getting torn to pieces. Luckily he's eating pretty well, but he's in such a bad condition! I haven't seen a fish in a state like this for a long time. If he dies, I'm gonna get my money back :C He's in a real bad condition that poor fellow...

Sorry, I just had to blow some steam... :'D
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Re: Methylene Blue
« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2010, 12:54:21 PM »

Oh dear, what a sad story that is! Sad
If it were me I might have been tempted to tell them to keep him and picked out another healthy one.
BUT I KNOW... Wink he tugged at your heart strings and you just HAD to take him home and try to save him.
Not to mention that you probably had already fallen in love with him.  Well he sure is lucky to have you as his new friend! Cheesy  I hope everything works out and he is good as new in no time.
HA!  that is why I picked the 3 tiny feeder fish...to try and save them and give them a better home to live out their poor miserable lives.  We are die hearts that's what we are, Nossie my friend. Grin

This is a funny story,  the girl at the pet shop told me when she was 8 years old she walked down with a friend to the neighborhood petshop and bought all the feeder goldfish to save them from being eaten by other peoples pets or bigger fish.  She took them all home and put them in her blow up swimming pool in the back yard.
She said boy was her mom mad when she found out! Cheesy
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Re: Methylene Blue
« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2010, 02:50:05 PM »

Haha xD Well, it's something like that Wink The problem was that I didn't notice him being sick until pretty late, so I rather lost the opportunity... D: But I've been looking at him all day and he just seems to be getting worse, my poor baby :'c Just floating with nose to the floor and he seems to have been getting worse all day. They did have some other pretty Orandas still, so I might just bring a new one home. I think I'll make a painting of my little fish though, he has a small black dot on his cheek Wink A little beauty-dot <3

Oh, what a cute story! Made me all warm inside (: Reminds me when some children had caught fish from a stream and kept them in some kind of small pool for days, in the sunshine and without food! D: Lucky that me and my friends found the fish so we could return them to the stream! They were all pale :'c
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Re: Methylene Blue
« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2010, 04:35:38 PM »

 Got up  1/2 hour ago, it is 8:30am now and reading through the new posts:

Sad no, what a sad thing to read about your oranda, Nossie. It just made me furious too now, how brainless some pet shop employees can be. Poor little fishy!!!  Cry Do you think you still can save him? OHHH I whish !!!
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Re: Methylene Blue
« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2010, 04:37:26 PM »

Thanks Mindemae,

I agree, we are a lovely small group of fishy friends on here,  Wink
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Re: Methylene Blue
« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2010, 01:56:23 AM »

Hanna: Me too! I'm so... I'm simply furious. But unfortunately I found my little child with belly up this morning. He was so stiff when I took him out of the tank :'c I was looking closely for any signs of his condition worsening, and I did find that his chest was rather red. So in other words, he died from an internal bacterial infection :C I wish I could've done something! If I only had a syringe and some antibiotics, or some medicated food it might just have worked!

The worst thing is that he had to suffer so much, he was so beautiful Cry A little golden Oranda with a beauty spot on his right cheek and black edges on the fins, I chose him out of a tank full of fish and the ******** at the shop got him killed for me!
I'm going to get either a new fish or my money back, and I'm not gonna leave it there for even minutes after picking him this time. Grr...

But thank you both so much *hug* it's really good to have someone that understands what I'm talking about :'D
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Re: Methylene Blue
« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2010, 03:21:16 AM »

Oh Nossie,
I am so terribly sorry for you.  I DO understand how quickly we become attached to these beautiful creatures!
Well, you did your best and to not try would always make you wonder.  Well, at least he is not suffering anymore. Cry  Darn it all anyway, I hate when that happens!
Yes, I would go back and give them a piece of my mind! Angry (If you haven't already!)
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Re: Methylene Blue
« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2010, 05:01:07 AM »

 Sad  Nossie, noo is this sad!!! I am so sorry and furious, wild, fuming  Angry
How can people working in a pet store be that careless, not thinking what they are doing.

yes, go back and tell them ...  you know what...
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Re: Methylene Blue
« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2010, 09:56:52 AM »

Mindemae: Gonna call them tomorrow... the shop is quite far away, and I can't go until Saturday, so I thought I could tell them in advance that the fish was sick when I got it home and died a day after getting him, just to make sure that... well.

Hanna: I know! It's incredible! Not even the fact that the fish was paid for already managed to motivate them to take better care of it.

Thanks for your support (:
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