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Bel
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Help this poor tiny one please!
« on: January 29, 2011, 01:05:53 PM »

I didn't do the whole question thing since you guys already know what is going on with my tank.  Still cycling and all.


Here is what is wrong.  Yesterday all the fish were doing great and looking good.  Then today my FAVORITE little fishie that was posing for pics yesterday looking all cute is not doing well.  He can't control his swimming it looks like.  Head going down and tail up.  Looks pitiful.  Cry

Someone else feed them after I had already feed them a couple hours earlier.  Kids say they didn't do it but someone did because the food is not where I put it and the glass lid was moved I could see.  Husband left 15 mins ago and should be back soon so I will see if he feed them but I'm so angry about this.  Angry
I have been the only one doing the feedings and I want it to stay that way so I know how much they are getting. grr

I'm going to check the water params now but I wanted to type this out first to see if the food could have done this.  If this sounds like something else please let me know and what I can do for him please.  If they were overfeed is there anything I can do about that? 
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Re: Help this poor tiny one please!
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2011, 01:10:45 PM »

Big water change asap.
If they were fed too much then the bio-load may have been too much!
Put Aquarium salt in your tank to guard against gill dammage. 1 TBS per every 5 gallons of tank water.
Also, double dose the filter media with beneficial bacteria.
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Re: Help this poor tiny one please!
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2011, 01:51:31 PM »

Husband got home and said he did feed them this mourning but only a few pinches cause my 2 yr old wanted to watch them eat. 
He said it was probably only enough for 2 fish to eat.  Not the bio-load I guess since this was the case right? 

water was:
my tester only says 0 or .25, its the liquid ones
ammonia- looked like almost 0, I have bad eyes but could have had a tinge of green but not .25 yet
nitrites- .25
nitrates- 5.0

What would you do in this case?
water change for sure but would you do salt too? 


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Re: Help this poor tiny one please!
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2011, 02:22:48 PM »

salt will help protect the gills.
I would have been using salt from day 1 while they were exposed to ammonia.
Nitrite is still ammonia and harmful too.
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Re: Help this poor tiny one please!
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2011, 05:00:03 PM »

I would still perform a large water change. Even if it wasn't much food, over feeding is a BIG problem in a non-established system Undecided
Otherwise I'd do as Minde suggests. However, salt slows the multiplying process of the nitrobacter (the beneficial bacteria that break down nitrite) so you'll need to be aware that this should be used only if you have a spike of waste in your tank, which you may now. Better safe than sorry!! I hope they'll be alright!
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Re: Help this poor tiny one please!
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2011, 06:17:40 PM »

Just double the dosage of the beneficial bacteria in you filter.
anytime you see ammonia present then do a water change and add the BB! Wink
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Re: Help this poor tiny one please!
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2011, 08:54:42 PM »

He is hanging on right now.  I hope the water change and bb helped and I couldn't add the salt anyway so and it sounds like that was a good thing.  I don't want to slow down the beneficial bacteria at all since I still have some nitrites and maybe a small amount of ammonia in there.  I thought I had the aquarium salt already but couldn't find it.  I'll pick some up anyway for the qt and any other problems that may come up after this is cycled.  They really didn't get over feed just to let you guys know.  I skipped the lunch feeding anyway just to be safe though.  He is only like an inch long but was always a frisky little thing,  I sure hope he can hold on.  Cry
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Re: Help this poor tiny one please!
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2011, 03:45:48 AM »

You're, no offense, taking things far too literally... you really need to protect the fishes' well-being before the cycling of the tank, you know Undecided Just to get them through this hard time in the tank. It's not like the cycle will stop completely just because you add salt!
So do try finding some salt to treat the tank with. Unless you notice most of the waste going away with the water change.
Did you change the water, and how much?
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Re: Help this poor tiny one please!
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2011, 05:35:57 AM »

Bel,
The fish have been exposed to ammonia for so long that they have ammonia poisoning.
You are going to lose some to that.  Ammonia, even in the slightest amount will damage the gills of your fish. Undecided
Salt helps with gill function and I used gobs of it and overdosed my fish when they had ich and I never saw a decrease in the bacterial function or my nitrogen cycle.
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Re: Help this poor tiny one please!
« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2011, 12:15:42 PM »

Minde-  I agree completely.  They are the small ones that had problems, which were not in good health to begin with.  The cycle of the tank took a tole on a few tiny ones.  It is fully cycled now and I did get my Salt but it was Monday before I could get anything, on Sunday pretty much everything shuts down here in the South.  No more ammonia to worry about now so I hope all goes well with them from here on out till they can get into that lovely pond. 

Also had so much going on this week is why it took me so long to get back on here.  Husband was at the verge of having to be hospitalized,  he had infection that spread down his right arm and into his hand, inside his body.  That actually started the weekend that I was having issues with the one little fish.  I went to my Moms to pick up some medicine for him since it was a Sunday and he refused to go to the hospital,  he calls me when I am just about to leave to go home and says my dog, Vahlla, was hit by a car.   Shocked  What a terrible day and no vets open either.  She was not looking good when I got home and my husband could do nothing because he was running a high fever and couldn't use his right arm and hand at all.  I nursed her back to health and she pulled through with no problem.  All that worrying about my little fishy and then my husband and then my dog. WOW  What a week!  They are all good now and hope it stays that way!  They say when it rains it pours and this is so true!
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Re: Help this poor tiny one please!
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2011, 05:25:30 AM »

Hmmm thats weird I wonder why a lot of people are having bad weeks. I think it was Andrea who told me about her bad week.
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