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jordon.chynna
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Goldfish I.D.
« on: February 15, 2012, 07:18:34 PM »

This is Peebles our little Oranda, I hope! I think that she's an Oranda but I'm not sure if her wen should be bigger.. she's only about two inches if that.. anyone know if she is or not?
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Re: Goldfish I.D.
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2012, 07:37:34 PM »

Just read that the wen shouldn't develop until they are two.. I really hope Peebles is and Oranda, I'll be really upset if she isn't! But I can't think of another explanation for the head growth other than that she is an Oranda?

Here's a picture of our baby Blue Oranda, Spook, a little bigger than Peebles but the wen is much smaller.. Spook is the blue obviously. Is he an Oranda?
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jordon.chynna
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Re: Goldfish I.D.
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2012, 09:11:02 PM »

All of the fish I think!
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Re: Goldfish I.D.
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2012, 11:45:38 PM »

Thats a tough one...Is the top of the head textured? Bumpy like a rasberry? All of my orandas had significant headgrowth from the start. The wen will get bigger as they age but I think there should be something there from a very young age. Your fish are gorgeous...Is that a white ranchu??? I am thinking of of getting one...not sure though. How many fish do you have total? That tank must be pretty large since you are keeping them all together?
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jordon.chynna
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Re: Goldfish I.D.
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2012, 07:19:25 AM »

There does seem to be texture and raising on both of them but it's not huge.. The tank is 30 gallons but they are all tiny
at the moment. The two small fantails are going today sadly but I want to have more room for the others! Water parameters
are fine but I can't decide if they have a parasite or not at the moment, Spook is definitely off.. Yes it is a white ranchu, just starting to get the bump on her back more clearly
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Re: Goldfish I.D.
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2012, 12:23:26 PM »

In my experience their wen should be very developed before age two, Rowan won't be two until April and all my others are younger. It looks like there is a little texturing from what i can see. I guess you probably know from reading the forum that thirty gallons should house only 2-3 fish, even if they are small. Keep your eyes out for a larger tank. Smiley
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Re: Goldfish I.D.
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2012, 02:38:33 PM »

Yes, just having the courage to part with my fish.. I've given one of the fantails away today and another will be going shortly then there will be four.. Then it's just finding someone to adopt Sad guessing we'll end up with my Lionhead, Peebles the Oranda and Pumpkin the Ryukin at the end of it Sad
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Re: Goldfish I.D.
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2012, 10:10:59 AM »

I'm pretty sure both are orandas, that's usually how they look when young, even though the ones I had also had a pronounced headgrowth already from 1 inch of size Wink
Just feed them a lot of live foods for protein and it should develop nicely! Cheesy

Hope you'll find a bigger tank! I can't imagine how it would be having to give them away Sad
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Re: Goldfish I.D.
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2012, 10:26:08 AM »

I'm glad that they are Smiley from what I can tell, Spook looks like he'll be a 'long-bodied' oranda and Peebles short bodied so that will be nice! I need to find a fish keeper in the UK to adopt the fantail. I'll keep the four a while then decide how to whittle it down to three Sad
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Re: Goldfish I.D.
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2012, 10:40:02 AM »

If you join the practical fishkeeping (UK based) site...in the forum there is a market place where I'm sure thet somebody will be interested in your fishes (Link is not visible to guests. Please register to view.)
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Re: Goldfish I.D.
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2012, 12:40:26 PM »

Hi I am not an expert on fish but I would like to get some my favouites are Pearlscale,Jikin,Wakin and Shubunkin Goldfish but I need to know do they all get along?
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« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2012, 12:41:36 PM »

hi
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« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2012, 12:41:54 PM »

hi
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« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2012, 12:49:17 PM »

No. They are not compatible. Shubunkins and wakins could probably do well together, jikin may also do well but their elaborate tail may put them at a disadvantage. Pearlscales should be kept with other egg-shaped fancies. And just so you know, you would need an enormous tank to keep these goldfish, please do more research. You may want to start your own thread to ask questions.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong- I'm not familiar with jikins and wakins.
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Re: Goldfish I.D.
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2012, 06:31:50 AM »

If you let the fish get enough food all those fsh except the pearlscale and wakin are compatible.

cheri_alexander a wakin has the same tail as a jikin but grows much bigger and is considered pond fish.
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Re: Goldfish I.D.
« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2012, 08:25:24 AM »

Ok thanks so they all get on apart from pearlscale and wakin is that right?
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Re: Goldfish I.D.
« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2012, 02:15:35 PM »

Fantailer- according to goldfish connection they have a different tail called a "four leaf clover tail".
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Re: Goldfish I.D.
« Reply #17 on: February 25, 2012, 06:14:50 AM »

Oh woops sorry cheri_alexander.
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Re: Goldfish I.D.
« Reply #18 on: February 25, 2012, 11:08:12 AM »

Pinkfish- do you realize that to keep for example 3 shubunkins you will need a 75-100 gallon tank?
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Re: Goldfish I.D.
« Reply #19 on: February 25, 2012, 04:16:24 PM »

I am not really good with maths if i got a pearlscale goldfish what others could i get and do they get big? If they do what goldfish are small?
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Re: Goldfish I.D.
« Reply #20 on: February 25, 2012, 05:26:15 PM »

Pearscales stay smaller, as do telescope eyes (black moors etc) and fantails but still large. Even these smaller varieties can weigh 1.5 lbs and need significant space. There are some like the bubble-eye that stay very small but I certainly wouldn't recommend them to a beginner. Goldfish are a type of carp, they almost all grow large.  If you want 3-5 fancies you will need a 50 gallon tank. This is not as large as it sounds, it is very manageable and quite affordable. The keys to keeping healthy goldies are: lots of space, varied diet and good water quality (proper matinence). Goldfish are a huge responsibilty, like any pet. You should read up on tank maintenance, diet and check out the cost of equipment like a good filter. If you are really serious about keeping goldfish we'll be here to help.
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Re: Goldfish I.D.
« Reply #21 on: February 26, 2012, 10:37:17 AM »

Ok thanks everybody for their advice Smiley
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Re: Goldfish I.D.
« Reply #22 on: February 27, 2012, 04:52:44 AM »

Oh ranchus and lionheads are pretty small.
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Re: Goldfish I.D.
« Reply #23 on: February 27, 2012, 11:38:13 AM »

I don't know about lionheads but ranchus get huge! Even though they don't have a long tail their body can be 10 inches and they can weigh 3 lbs! The calico I have is just a baby and is 8" and over 1 lb.
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Re: Goldfish I.D.
« Reply #24 on: February 27, 2012, 01:30:17 PM »

Oh right I so confused.
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Re: Goldfish I.D.
« Reply #25 on: February 27, 2012, 01:35:37 PM »

to whitch fishes to get Huh
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Re: Goldfish I.D.
« Reply #26 on: February 27, 2012, 01:37:46 PM »

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Re: Goldfish I.D.
« Reply #27 on: February 27, 2012, 04:14:18 PM »

What type of fish is this?
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Re: Goldfish I.D.
« Reply #28 on: February 27, 2012, 06:48:45 PM »

A common goldfish.
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Re: Goldfish I.D.
« Reply #29 on: February 27, 2012, 07:52:30 PM »

It doesn't matter what type of goldfish you get- it will need a large tank. 30 gallons for one or two, no smaller and even then you'll probably have to upgrade, my  fantails outgrew 30 gallons in a year. If you don't want a large tank then look into tropicals like tetras or bettas.
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