Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
November 25, 2014, 08:38:38 PM
Home Search Search Login Register

+  Pet Goldfish - Aquarium Forum Community
|-+  Aquarium
| |-+  Health and Illness
| | |-+  Goldfish with black spots
« previous next »
Pages: 1 2 3 [4]
Author Topic: Goldfish with black spots  (Read 12953 times)
Hanna
Hero Member
*****

Karma: 257
Posts: 3108


Re: Goldfish with black spots
« Reply #90 on: June 06, 2010, 05:50:51 PM »

I would do like Mindemae suggested: treat with Melafix and Pimafix asap.

But at the same time please check your water chemistry. The water looks pretty cloudy to me. This is a sign of to much bacteria. If this one isn't ok for whatever reason, your fish is stressed and more prone to infections and deseases.
Very important to improve your water quality.
Logged
Hanna
Hero Member
*****

Karma: 257
Posts: 3108


Re: Goldfish with black spots
« Reply #91 on: June 06, 2010, 05:52:43 PM »

How did you clean the aquarium?
The cloudy water suggests to me that your tank is cycling again due to too much cleaning?
Logged
Mindemae
Hero Member
*****

Karma: 256
Posts: 2458



Re: Goldfish with black spots
« Reply #92 on: June 06, 2010, 05:54:18 PM »

Have you checked your water chemistry like Hanna suggested?
With nothing in the tank and "cleaning" it real good you might have disturbed the benficial bacteria and ecosystem of the tank.  Probably had an ammonia spike which caused the ammonia burns like Hanna said.  With the tank trying to re-cycle your fish could suffer from new tank syndrome and as a result his health could be compromised.
The spot on his head looks like a tumor or wart to me.  Not sure if there is anything you can do about that.
Your water looks cloudy which happens when a tank is trying to cycle and all this good bacteria is flying around trying to find a home.

Logged
Hanna
Hero Member
*****

Karma: 257
Posts: 3108


Re: Goldfish with black spots
« Reply #93 on: June 06, 2010, 05:55:42 PM »

Did you remove the filtration too?

Good filtration is very important for goldfish, so are airstones... and especially if they are weak because of illness.
So in case you removed those, please put them back
Logged
Mindemae
Hero Member
*****

Karma: 256
Posts: 2458



Re: Goldfish with black spots
« Reply #94 on: June 06, 2010, 05:58:12 PM »

I would still treat for a bacteria infection.  Try melafix and pimafix according to the bottles directions.  If no improvement at all after 3 days I would give him the oral antibiotic too.
Logged
Hanna
Hero Member
*****

Karma: 257
Posts: 3108


Re: Goldfish with black spots
« Reply #95 on: June 06, 2010, 05:58:54 PM »

When your other fish passed away, did you notice sth different on his body?
Logged
Mindemae
Hero Member
*****

Karma: 256
Posts: 2458



Re: Goldfish with black spots
« Reply #96 on: June 06, 2010, 06:01:15 PM »

I didn't even think that you might have removed the filtration in the tank!  If you did, you definately need to put it back in and use some bacteria booster like Stresszyme by API.
Logged
Fishka
Newbie
*

Karma: 0
Posts: 9


Re: Goldfish with black spots
« Reply #97 on: June 06, 2010, 06:14:03 PM »

I will try as you say Melafix and Pimafix. Are these medicines available in any pet store or need to order them in internet?
Hope the fish will get better soon, because she was always happy fish for 3 years without any problems!
The other 1 passed away 3 weeks ago suddenly and no idea why. It just happenned.
Logged
Mindemae
Hero Member
*****

Karma: 256
Posts: 2458



Re: Goldfish with black spots
« Reply #98 on: June 06, 2010, 06:16:44 PM »

You can get them at any aquatic pet store or even Walmart carries Melafix where I live.
Good Luck!
Logged
Hanna
Hero Member
*****

Karma: 257
Posts: 3108


Re: Goldfish with black spots
« Reply #99 on: June 06, 2010, 06:19:54 PM »

They are available in the pet store.

But you didn't mention anything about your water chemistry. IS IT OK?   DID YOU TEST?

If you haven't tested yet because you do not have a test kit, get a master-test-kit for Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrate and pH.
Test according to guidelines and act accordingly.

Fishka, please, this is so important to rescue your fish.
Logged
Mindemae
Hero Member
*****

Karma: 256
Posts: 2458



Re: Goldfish with black spots
« Reply #100 on: June 06, 2010, 06:40:30 PM »

OR you can take a sample in to the petstore when you go to buy your meds.  Most wil test your water for free!! Smiley
Logged
Hanna
Hero Member
*****

Karma: 257
Posts: 3108


Re: Goldfish with black spots
« Reply #101 on: June 07, 2010, 01:13:12 AM »

Hello Fishka,

how are things going, hope all will be OK with your fish
Logged
Nossie
Hero Member
*****

Karma: 481
Posts: 5469



Re: Goldfish with black spots
« Reply #102 on: June 07, 2010, 03:51:38 AM »

Oh, what a lovely fish... c: Anyways, the white "spot" looks like a waxy lump to me, so like Mindemae already said, it's probably a tumor. But there is also the possibility that it could be carp pox (lymphocystis), which appears like small, whitish bumps on the body on the fish, it could be anywhere from head to the very end of the caudal peduncle. This is a viral infection and it can't be treated. Luckily, it's not bothering the fish in any way unless they appear on bad places, like by the anal opening or gills/mouth...

But if your fish is acting lethargic you should definitely have your water tested ASAP! And do your best to get the tank in good shape again, water quality problems can sometimes be worse for fish than symptoms you can actually see, as most people completely ignore cycling their tanks OR caring to test the water at all.

Like Mindemae and Hanna suggested it could be useful to try and add some Melafix and Pimafix to the water. But this isn't as much a medicine as a sort of tonic for the fish, neither of these medicines are proven to kill of bacteria and they can only deal with smaller infections and help the fish recover from physical damage and the like. So if you're noticing that this doesn't work, you should try to find the proper treatment. But as far as I'm concerned, I'm sure these two + salt and good water quality will be just fine for your fish (:
Logged
Fishka
Newbie
*

Karma: 0
Posts: 9


Re: Goldfish with black spots
« Reply #103 on: June 07, 2010, 05:06:14 PM »

Hello All,Our fish still has got spots all over her head, they change the colour and shape, now they're more white than black, but growing...
Tomorrow I am going to visit pet store because today I was the whole day at work, so I will get that Melafix if it is available here ( I live in London), but I am sure it is.
No, I have never checked chemistry of the water, I don't have the tools, but i'll ask tomorrow in pet store.

It is weird to me, that suddenly the fish started feeling ill after doing so well for more than 3 years!
It all sytarted one day, when she suddenly jumped rapidly and then collapsed, was lying down still on the bottom of the tank. We thought she's gone. But was alive, just looked like shocked herself (maybe hit herself?). Few hours later she was fine and swimming again. But few days later the other fish died. Suddenly - so weird.

Anyway, thank you so much everyone for all good advice - it is all very helpful! 
Logged
Fishka
Newbie
*

Karma: 0
Posts: 9


Re: Goldfish with black spots
« Reply #104 on: June 07, 2010, 05:13:27 PM »

This waxy lump or tumor, as you call it, really cannot be treated? Even with the medicines and salt???
Is she suffering? Because when I look at these spots, i feel sorry for fishy and I am asking myself- if it hurts her? How to bring her relief?
Anyway, tomorrow we are changing the water again, because she food waste is huge - she didn't eat all, althought she looked so hungry. And then I add salt, or the medc once i get them.
Cheers all
Logged
Hanna
Hero Member
*****

Karma: 257
Posts: 3108


Re: Goldfish with black spots
« Reply #105 on: June 07, 2010, 08:06:56 PM »

Do you have a vet in your pet shop? You may ask there too.
How much do you feed normally?
Logged
Nossie
Hero Member
*****

Karma: 481
Posts: 5469



Re: Goldfish with black spots
« Reply #106 on: June 08, 2010, 03:39:55 AM »

I told you that the fish won't be bothered by these tumors at all, UNLESS they are present in the internal organs, or around gill covers and anal opening. And since both are usually caused by virus, there's no reliable treatment. But if you feel like you NEED to do something, you could try to raise the temp slowly in the tank. It won't do anything in the long run, but it might be nicer for the fish that way. For some reason.

It's a bit of a problem if she's not eating.
Logged
Hanna
Hero Member
*****

Karma: 257
Posts: 3108


Re: Goldfish with black spots
« Reply #107 on: June 08, 2010, 06:18:41 AM »

Please  DO NOT change the whole water again. Only a partial waterchange is enough. It is like opening the windows in your house and let fresh air in.

Do you have a gravel vacuum cleaner? If yes you can clean debris of the bottom of the tank, even if there is no gravel at the moment. It sucks it with the water stream.

... and a tip: catch the old tank water in a bucket and water your flowers or pot plants with it, they'll thrive  Wink
Logged
Fishka
Newbie
*

Karma: 0
Posts: 9


Re: Goldfish with black spots
« Reply #108 on: June 08, 2010, 06:46:14 AM »

HEllo,
I called 2 pet storse in my area to ask if they sell melafix, but they said they don't. Hmmm....but they sell apparently other medicines to treat goldfish.
Well......it seems like I'm getting lost, what to do. The fish seems fine and is swimming as usual, her body looks OK, just the head looks bad! Today it looks like a white wound dark around. And this wound is not flat, guys, it is kind of bumpy (looks like a little hill on the top of her head). Does anyone know what it might be?
Fungus, bacteria, what is it??? Or just a wound?
Logged
Fishka
Newbie
*

Karma: 0
Posts: 9


Re: Goldfish with black spots
« Reply #109 on: June 08, 2010, 06:48:43 AM »

Hanna, I didn't know the plants like water from fishtank Cheesy
Nossie, she is eating, so that's a good news Smiley
Logged
Fishka
Newbie
*

Karma: 0
Posts: 9


Re: Goldfish with black spots
« Reply #110 on: June 08, 2010, 06:51:54 AM »

Actually, what is also weird, is that she starts running suddenly around the tank, like she got scared by something...she jumps and then runs and then cools down. But the thing is, that there is noone else in the tank except her! There is only her and no other fish. There are times she behaves nervous and when she gets quite.
Don't know what's the matter with her....
Oy, fish can be a worry..
Logged
Fishka
Newbie
*

Karma: 0
Posts: 9


Re: Goldfish with black spots
« Reply #111 on: June 08, 2010, 06:53:10 AM »

So it is 6:51 am there? Where are you all from hehhehe Smiley It is 12:52 pm London time - best greetings from London
Logged
Hanna
Hero Member
*****

Karma: 257
Posts: 3108


Re: Goldfish with black spots
« Reply #112 on: June 08, 2010, 07:14:50 AM »

Hi Fishka,
Greetings from Down Under, 10 pm here in Australia and wintertime, lol. Got some info for you, hope it helps.

Sounds like sth is bothering her. Like a bacterial infection. First thing to treat when a fish is flashing: aquariumsalt, bigger partial waterchange which thinns down the number of parasites. You should do this every day to keep bacteria down.

Also, lumps and bumps that suddenly appear are most likely infections. The white in the middle can be puss ( dead white bloodcells which killed bacteria). Most common bacteria for Goldfish are Columnaris and Aeromonas, both gram negative. It should be treated with antibiotic containing sulfur.

Good Luck
Logged
Hanna
Hero Member
*****

Karma: 257
Posts: 3108


Re: Goldfish with black spots
« Reply #113 on: June 08, 2010, 07:18:01 AM »

And yes, the water is natural fertilizer, cheap and home made from your fishies for your plants.... too good to be thrown out  Wink

But I wouldn't use it when you treat with medication.
Logged
Mindemae
Hero Member
*****

Karma: 256
Posts: 2458



Re: Goldfish with black spots
« Reply #114 on: June 08, 2010, 08:48:13 AM »

Fishka,
I would take a water sample into the petstore and and have them test it asap.  Your fish thrashing and dashing around the tank is a sign that he is uncomfortable.  Bad water chemistry can do that to a fish.  It can also burn a fish.  It would be like you sticking your hands in ammonia!   I believe your fish's problems are from the water quality being changed.  Does your fish store have any medicated fish food? 
Logged
Mindemae
Hero Member
*****

Karma: 256
Posts: 2458



Re: Goldfish with black spots
« Reply #115 on: June 08, 2010, 08:49:51 AM »

Also I forgot to ask if yur had any water condtioner that you put in the tank?
A water condtioner added will help protect the slime coat of your fish for the time being until you can get proper medication.
Logged
Hanna
Hero Member
*****

Karma: 257
Posts: 3108


Re: Goldfish with black spots
« Reply #116 on: June 09, 2010, 04:16:27 AM »

this would be API Stresszyme and API Stresscoat
Logged
Katarine
Sr. Member
****

Karma: 72
Posts: 1247



Re: Goldfish with black spots
« Reply #117 on: June 09, 2010, 10:49:37 AM »

OKay, so I just read everything, and it looks like everyone's offered about as much as you can do. Partial water changes, all that. I would strongly reccomend a minimaster test kit, iof you dont have one already, as this will help you monitor the quality of the water without having to run to the petstore all the time

A wound on the head sounds like a parasite to me, if you can get some parasite clear or something of equal effectiveness, I would start that.. But thats just me. Add aquarium salt to, I think its a tablespoon per 5 gallons, Im not sure, but the salt is supposed to encourage healing.

So! just small 5-10% water changes, as has been mentioned, salt, and if you can find Melafix thatd be wonderful, because that crap just clears everything up. Got a problem? MELAFIX IT! lol

Wish you all the best with your fish!!!
Logged
Pages: 1 2 3 [4]  
« previous next »
Jump to:  
Page created in 0.113 seconds with 16 queries.