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JoLB
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Mixing Shubunkins and blackmoors??
« on: July 10, 2011, 12:05:51 AM »

Help! - Our family is new to keeping fish.  So lots to learn.
My son has had a shubunkin for several weeks, and the pet store said it was fine to keep all types of coldwater fish together.  However we have added a blackmoor and it's getting majorily harrassed by the Shubunkin.  Do they not mix well?
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Nossie
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Re: Mixing Shubunkins and blackmoors??
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2011, 05:38:09 AM »

Okay, I see the damage is done. No, shubunkins, comets, commons and any other long-bodied goldfish should not be kept with egg-shaped fish, ESPECIALLY NOT MOORS. Moors have protruding eyes, causing them to have pretty bad eye sight, meaning, the moor won't be able to find food fast enough since the shubunkin will take all of it!

And since the shubunkin is already harassing him/her... you should definitely take one of them back to the shop :/

Oh, right, it also depends a lot on how big the tank is if you even can add another fish! A shubunkin needs a 20 gallon tank all for himself (about 80-100 liters), if you try adding anything into something smaller than that, the shubunkin will probably feel really uncomfortable, and therefore, bully the new ones too no matter what variety they are.
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Re: Mixing Shubunkins and blackmoors??
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2011, 09:46:41 AM »

Everything Nossie said is right to every point. Moors should be kept with slow-moving fancy fish only...preferably other sight impaired goldfish, so they can compete for food fair and square. Otherwise they will slowly starve, unless they are killed by constant bullying first. Shubies are much more capable than the meek little moor...they see the weakness in the blind/almost blind fish and view the fish as an inferior, and therefore try to push it around at every chance. Not to mention, if you were a person kept in a closet with two other people, you'd probably get cranky and start pushing yourself. That's why it's good to give shubunkins more room, and the moors more handicapped friends.  Cheesy
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Re: Mixing Shubunkins and blackmoors??
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2011, 10:30:42 AM »

I didnt even have much luck when my moor was with my oranda...I'm not sure if its true but it seems like they do better with other moors....although, I could just have an overly active oranda and my moor could've just been too low key. 
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Re: Mixing Shubunkins and blackmoors??
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2011, 08:21:16 PM »

I keep orandas, fantails and moors together and they do quite nicely. I guess it just depends on if you have an aggressive fish or not. Other contributing factors to bullying include sick/injured fish, as healthy fish have an instinct to harass them, making quarentining ill fish crutial.
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Nossie
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Re: Mixing Shubunkins and blackmoors??
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2011, 09:17:42 AM »

I'd say that size also matters. Clearly, if you have a tiny moor and three huge orandas battling for food... guess who will be pushed away? :/
So it's safer to buy a moor that is a lot bigger than the other fish from the start for it to be successful, in my experience at least Smiley
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