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Nossie
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Guide to Feeding Veggies
« on: November 20, 2010, 02:23:00 PM »

I found a very useful article about how to prepare vegetables for your fish Smiley
And I thought it might be good to make a separate post about it as many people use to ask which veggies to feed and how to prepare them. (Mods: It'd be great if you could stick it in place!!)

It's written by Nathan D'Addio:     

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Notes:
- Do not BOIL the vegetables too long as that will remove the nutrients from them. Only until they will sink in the pot. You can skip boiling altogether (except with carrots) as long as you'll somehow make the vegetables stay in place, by attaching them to a vegetable clip or to the bottom somehow.
- The peas don't need to be boiled at all, just pop them out of their shells when they're thawed and feed to your fish.
- Sometimes, if you have smaller goldfish/tropical/marine fish, you may need to cut the veggies in smaller pieces to make it easier for them to eat!
- You can leave the veggies in the tank for up to 48 hours without trouble, but the shorter the better. I use to remove the veggies after 24 hours.
- Experiment with other vegetables and fruits as well such as banana, strawberries, water melon, apples, pear, orange pulp and others. Just be sure that you don't leave the fruits in the tank too long as they may pollute the water much easier than vegetables do!
- Feed it to your fish a few times a week, especially egg-shaped or older goldfish will benefit from a diet high in vegetable matter Smiley Remember to also feed them live foods from time to time! Such as blood worms, tubifex, brine shrimp, shrimp, krill... and that the base of the diet should contain a good quality staple pellet to be sure that the fish get all the nutrients they need!!

Hope it helps Wink
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Re: Guide to Feeding Veggies
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2010, 02:25:42 PM »

Thanks Nossie it is a great article.
Wow I never knew you could feed your goldfish so many veggies! Grin
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Re: Guide to Feeding Veggies
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2010, 02:38:38 PM »

I'm glad you found it useful! Smiley
I find more and more veggies all the time that you can feed to fish! Cheesy So I guess in the end, they can eat more or less anything Wink
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Re: Guide to Feeding Veggies
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2010, 02:43:26 PM »

We eat alot of veggies at our house so I guess I feed whatever we are having for lunch or dinner! Cheesy
Yesterday and today they got broccoli because we had that steamed in the microwave for lunch.
We like our veggies raw or steamed crisp so that is the way I feed veggies to the fish too. Smiley
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Re: Guide to Feeding Veggies
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2010, 05:06:20 PM »

Nossie this is great, karma for you.
I hope the mods make it STICKY, otherwise I sort of "report" and ask them to make it a STICKY  Grin

Thank you Nossie ! Wink
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Re: Guide to Feeding Veggies
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2010, 03:02:10 AM »

Thank you for this Nossie. Smiley
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Re: Guide to Feeding Veggies
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2010, 03:35:47 AM »

Thanks everyone! Cheesy

I noticed it's a sticky now! Wink My first stabbed thread, yay!! Grin
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Re: Guide to Feeding Veggies
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2010, 03:41:48 AM »

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Thanks everyone! Cheesy

I noticed it's a sticky now! Wink My first stabbed thread, yay!! Grin

Congrats, I send the request to the mods, lol And YEP they agreed,  Grin
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Re: Guide to Feeding Veggies
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2010, 04:33:33 AM »

Thanks a lot, Hanna! Smiley
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Re: Guide to Feeding Veggies
« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2010, 04:38:25 AM »

Very glad this is a sticky, it's some good information Smiley
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Re: Guide to Feeding Veggies
« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2010, 06:56:09 AM »

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Thanks a lot, Hanna! Smiley

no worries, always wanna do sth good for the fishy community  Grin hope the future newbies will read it straight away Wink
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Re: Guide to Feeding Veggies
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2010, 02:10:36 PM »

Karma to that, Hanna! Wink I really hope so too! There are lots of posts that deal with the same problem, I think it'd be great if they'd check them out a bit for instance if they have a sick fish or something!
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Re: Guide to Feeding Veggies
« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2010, 04:43:15 PM »

 Grin Thanks Nossie  Wink
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Re: Guide to Feeding Veggies
« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2010, 09:35:52 PM »

Great article! Thanks for taking the time to post this. Found it quite useful Grin karma Tongue
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Re: Guide to Feeding Veggies
« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2010, 11:11:46 PM »

Hello All Members and Newbies,

As it always will be a question I summarize some of our posts and and add it to Nossies thread which is a Sticky now.
This is about what to feed goldfish. It includes a huge list of foods we feed. Very important is the variety offered, as if goldfish would get only one or two types of food they easily will get constipated.
It is also important to feed sinking pellets, especially for egg shaped varieties as they will gasp too much air at the surface and will face swim bladder problems.

By OrandaLover: 
Ocean Nutrition Seaweed Select(TM) Green Marine Algae,  TetraColor Sinking Goldfish Granules
Hikari Freeze-Dried Tubifex Worms,  TetraFin Goldfish Flakes
By Mindemae:
Wardley Pellets, Tetra Color Sinking Granules, Wardley Goldfish Crumbles, Wardley Goldfish Flakes,
Aqueon Goldfish Flakes, Aqueon Goldfish granules, Aqueon Color Enhancing Granules, Frozen Emerald Entree for Omnivoires, Tubifex Worm cubes, Aqueon Algae Rounds, Wardley Shrimp Pellets, Tetra Freeze Dried Bloodworms, Wardley Goldfish Floating Pellets, Frozen Bloodworms by Sally, Mysic Shrimp
Omega One Green Seaweed, Omega One Red seaweed, Omega One Super Veggie Flakes, Wardley advanced Nutrition (both goldfish and tropical), Tetra Veggie Wafers, Frozen Brine Shrimp, Omega One Goldfish Flakes, Hikari Frozen Tubifex Cubes, Lunchbox Frozen Tropical Fish Food Variety pkg,
Aqueon Bottom Feeder Tablets
By Nossie:
as staple foods:
Hikari Goldfish Staple (mini pellets), Saki-Hikari Fancy Goldfish (small sticks)
Sera Goldy Royal (sinking growth pellets), JBL Novo Pearl (floating pellets, a bit bigger)

as live foods:
JBL NovoFex (FD tubifex cubes), JBL NovoFil (FD bloodworms), Sera Raffy L (FD gammarus/shrimp mix)
Tetra Natura Brine Shrimp Mix (Brine shrimp in gel), Tetra Natura Bloodworm Mix (Blood worms and Krill in gel)

as veggies:
Frozen Spinach, Frozen Peas, Omega One Seaweed (Green sheets, dried), Omega One Seaweed (Red sheets, dried), Tetra Natura Algae Mix (Lots of algae in gel), + various fruits and veggies now and then c:

By Pappy-Fish81:
O.S.I. Goldfish Pellets, O.S.I. Ocean Stars Spirulina Pellets, O.S.I. Aquarium Flake Food
Tetrafin Sinking Mini Sticks, TetraColor Sinking Goldfish Granules, Tetrafin Floating Variety Pellets
Tetrafinplus Goldfish Flakes, Nutrafin Max Goldfish Color Enhancing & Wheat Germ Pellet Mix
Aqueon Goldfish Granules, Aqueon Color Enhancing Granules, Omega One Freeze Dried Tubifex Worms
Omega One Veggie Rounds , Tetra Baby Shrimp (Sun Dried Gammarus), Tetra Bloodworms (Freeze Dried), Seaweed Salad Green Marine Algae by Sally's , Green Peas minus the skin, Broccoli

By April:
Nutrafin Max Sinking Pellets, Hikari freeze dried blood worms, frozen peas (shelled/thawed)
banana, cucumber

By Fantailer:

TetraFin Flakes, Lettuce, Flies, Worms, Peas, Cucumbers

By Hanna ( myself):
fresh foods: water melon,  strawberries,  orange pulp,  zucchini,

frozen foods: thawed and shelled peas ( they go nuts with them ), thawed carrot pieces,
                    veggie cube, brine shrimp, krill, bloodworms
live food:     blackworms

staple food: Omega One kelp flakes , Omega One freeze dried brine shrimp,  Tetra Goldfish   
                     flakes, Tetra Goldfish crisps,  Hikari Goldfish pellets ( soaked in Garlic Guard )
                    differrent variety of other flakes and algae pellets ( prepacked in the pet shop )

     
       
Feeding advice:
1. Feeding amount: there are a few different opinions, as  there are different advices in different Goldfish books:
In Nossies book they say to feed up to 3-5 times a day but VERY, VERY, VERY TINY AMOUNTS. This is very good if someone is at home to do this. Would be ideal.
I also read like I posted at the start 2 times a day, max 3 an amount they will eat up in 2 minutes (not to feed for 2 minutes)
For our fishies I'll stick to this one as we are working, so they get their feed once in the morning and once in the evening as soon as we are back. And they are beautiful, happy and healthy fishies.

2. Automatic feeder: this is a VERY good option if people are on holidays and there is no friend, family member to come and feed the fish... or to have it anyway....

3. Somebody comes to feed the fish: leave strict instructions and have single food amounts PREPACKED for the time you are away

4. Slow disolving feeding-blocks:  ABSOLUTELY   NO    !!!   As I mentioned before, for a few people it might work, but for majority it doesn't: result: polluted water, sick and/or dead fish ....
Before going on vacation do a larger waterchange, about 40—50%


Nossie,  can you please add those gammarus pics, also those bloodworm and blackworm ones.
I also welcome everybody in adding facts to this thread. THANK YOU.

Cheers,
Hanna
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Re: Guide to Feeding Veggies
« Reply #15 on: November 22, 2010, 04:03:06 AM »

Sure! Cheesy So I'll add a little something on live foods then Wink

Live foods should be included in every goldfish's diet, and i fact, all other fish too unless they're vegetarian. Do some research!

The most common live foods are available as freeze-dried, frozen, fresh or packed in gel.
Here are blood worms, that are available in every form, and also the most used one. Generally all goldfish will accept and appreciate this food.
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Further there are tubifex, that you should really buy only as freeze-dried, otherwise you may introduce unwanted disease to your tank! Usually packed in cubes, since they're so small! Tubifex are mud-dwelling worms and live in pretty dirty places which is why it's so easy for them to "collect" parasites and other pathogens.
These cubes should be torn in smaller parts and soaked before feeding! Just take a small cup, a chopstick and some tank water and put the small pieces of tuifex there, squeeze the air out of them with the stick. Otherwise they'll be tricky to spot and to catch by the goldfish Smiley Tubifex and blood worms are wonderful for younger fish that need protein!
Live foods should be fed a few times a week, I use to feed it to them 3-4 times a week Smiley

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There are also lots and lots of shrimp available as fish food, both frozen and freeze-dried! Shrimp contain lots of protein, and some shrimp even have a color-enhancing effect, such as Krill. These can be soaked, which is recommended if the shrimp are hard. Gammarus, for instance can be tossed directly into the tank without further problems Smiley Here are some pictures of Gammarus and Krill:
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Now there are still a lot more live foods available than this, but the best thing to do here is also buy a few kinds and see what your goldfish like most! Smiley You could try brine shrimp, plankton, black worms...
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Re: Guide to Feeding Veggies
« Reply #16 on: November 22, 2010, 04:33:54 AM »

Great, THANKS Nossie  Wink

I'll add some photos of flake and pellet food. Especially the pellets should be soaked first, so they are nice and soft.
I usually soak them in "garlic guard". This garlic liquid is also good to prevent internal bacterial infections, but it also helps finnicky eaters. Goldfish love the garlic smell.

Browse in your pet shop and familiarize yourself with the different types of foods and their ingredients. Keep away from cheap, cheap, cheap foods, go for the high quality ones. Also I recommend not to buy the very big tins or cans ( except you've got hundreds of fish ) as the food can go stail.
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Re: Guide to Feeding Veggies
« Reply #17 on: November 22, 2010, 05:38:16 AM »

Lol Hanna I have the exact same yoghurt container filled with the exact same algae pellets.
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Re: Guide to Feeding Veggies
« Reply #18 on: November 22, 2010, 05:47:59 AM »

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Lol Hanna I have the exact same yoghurt container filled with the exact same algae pellets.

LOL, they are those things I call   "v.i.a.g.r.a  for fish" as they go nuts and start playing with each other while munching , LOL... and I can handfeed those pellets to them....
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Re: Guide to Feeding Veggies
« Reply #19 on: November 22, 2010, 06:32:01 AM »

Yeah they go crazy for them! As soon as they fall into the tank they can smell them.
Aw cute I will have to see if mine take them out of my hands too.
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Re: Guide to Feeding Veggies
« Reply #20 on: November 24, 2010, 10:05:09 PM »

Imagine a soccer game that's what my fish do everytime I feed them vegetable discs. Cheesy
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Re: Guide to Feeding Veggies
« Reply #21 on: November 25, 2010, 03:38:12 AM »

Same here! And they keep stealing the algae pellets from my little pleco! Angry So I have to give one to the goldies to go nuts over while I secretly toss a pellet to Danny in the other end Wink
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Re: Guide to Feeding Veggies
« Reply #22 on: November 25, 2010, 04:16:48 AM »

Have you got your pleco in with your goldies? Ahh your brave!! I soo want to do that with a bristlenose instead due to the fact that I love them but also to eat up all the algae which annoys me  Angry The only downer to having goldfish! But I'm to scared it will get attached to one of my fish especially cause Clementine likes to sleep low.
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Re: Guide to Feeding Veggies
« Reply #23 on: November 25, 2010, 05:36:54 AM »

I was thinking about avoiding it, but then I remembered that... in fact, I've successfully kept bristlenoses with goldfish for at least 10 years! Smiley Not a scratch on the goldies Wink So I decided to take the chance and toss the Gibbiceps in there! (That's the exact species, and he's going to be SO HUGE! D8) He's meant to be extra peaceful anyway c: I have to find some frozen shrimp and some zucchini to feed him! Cheesy

Did I already mention that he ate all the beautiful green carpet I had grown on my driftwood? It's... it's bald. COMPLETELY! In just a week. And he's allover the plants and all, I decided not to bother cleaning off any algae myself having such a crazy guy in there xD
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Re: Guide to Feeding Veggies
« Reply #24 on: November 25, 2010, 08:45:06 AM »

Plecos will leave goldfish alone if you suppliment their diet with fresh veggies, like zucchini and keep them well fed! Smiley
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Re: Guide to Feeding Veggies
« Reply #25 on: November 25, 2010, 09:38:32 AM »

Yep, I'll give him lots of nice fresh food Smiley
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Re: Guide to Feeding Veggies
« Reply #26 on: November 26, 2010, 01:40:23 AM »

Ohhhh guys, you are making me think too much and really consider getting a bristlenose. I have the room in the tank, ahhh I dunno  Undecided Decisions, decisions lol. But what happens if they just latch on one day, not because they are hungry but just because they think it is something to latch onto??? I'm scared of coming home to that Sad

I'll have to have a big think and talk to some people to see if anyone could take it if it doesn't work out.

Nossie you'll have to post some photos of your pleco Smiley
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Re: Guide to Feeding Veggies
« Reply #27 on: November 26, 2010, 03:30:22 AM »

I don't think so Smiley Bristlenoses are very, very peaceful! Smiley If you'd get two of them, they'd do great! Smiley And really, I've never seen a bristlenose suck on a goldfish xD Ever xD

But I read recently that this pleco of mine MIGHT develop a habit to do so O_O Mainly on discus fish but... CAN YOU IMAGINE?! A 50cm pleco is sucking on my precious little goldies?! D8
Nepp, now I have to get myself a second tank and some Oscars. Yes, that'll do.
Okay, I'll make a thread for Danny! Wink
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Re: Guide to Feeding Veggies
« Reply #28 on: November 27, 2010, 12:57:12 AM »

I've decided not to do this until Clementine has grown so if I do end up getting one (or two) bristlenoses which I would LOVE to do it won't be for awhile. At least a year away.
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Re: Guide to Feeding Veggies
« Reply #29 on: November 27, 2010, 03:37:49 AM »

Hey every body

that is some great infomation the article was well worth the read, I was looking for some different food for my fishies but I had know idea about vegetable and fruits how good is that, thankyou Nossie.

Every body has cotributed a lot of info to this topic page there is a wider range of food varieties than I could have imagined, and with those picture make identification of products so much easier.

Thankyou kindly Nossie and Hanna

 
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