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Re: Guide to Feeding Veggies
« Reply #90 on: October 15, 2011, 04:24:04 AM »

I won't feed them the cup noodle peas anymore, instead I'll try and pick them up some from the store or get them some tastey treat from the pet store when I go. Where do you get those seaweeds and are they expensive?
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Re: Guide to Feeding Veggies
« Reply #91 on: October 15, 2011, 04:30:59 AM »

Sea weed! That's a great idea  Cheesy

At the moment Lucky loves eating brocolli and peas. But my goodness, last night when I fed her some peas, she bit of quite a big chunk and proceeded to struggle, her little mouth chomping like crazy, I panicked, she spat it back out *relief*, then she ate it again!
Still struggling, she spat it back out, then ate it again! She did this like 3 times before I got in there and batted her away from it, but I did notice the pea size piece was much smaller, I tried to get it out but lost it in the gravel >.<
I'm guessing this is normal behaviour for them, if they're trying to break something down into smaller pieces?

I think I'll try and get some zuchinni and cucumber to try though Smiley

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Oh also, on note of what was previously said about holiday blocks, I saw these (Link is not visible to guests. Please register to view.)

Anyone reckon these would be safe to use? Or just best to leave the fish un-fed if they can survive for a while without food?
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Re: Guide to Feeding Veggies
« Reply #92 on: October 15, 2011, 04:34:12 AM »

Ah, wait a minute, PetCo has the sea weed. Smiley They only have the green one though...along with brine shrimp, tubifex and blood worms. Which is the best choice out of those? Not price wise but nutritional wise. (They're all about the same price wise. XD )
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Re: Guide to Feeding Veggies
« Reply #93 on: October 16, 2011, 02:58:26 AM »

Goldfishnoob: I buy the seaweed online Smiley I think they cost like... 5 (~$7-8) or something a pack? And they contain 20 sheets of seaweed, so I've had that same package for over a year now and not even gotten halfway on it!! So it would be enough to buy one pack and feed them the seaweed every once in a while Smiley I had one fish climbing the weed when I was holding it until he was out of water.. xD I haven't seen any difference in the nutritional value, I think it's just a matter of taste, really Smiley And mine love the green, so it's probably gonna be a success! Especially if it's hard to remember to get fresh veggies (Like I do...) Smiley
Tubifex is also one of the favorite things I feed my fish! It has a lot more protein than blood worms do, and it's great to feed even bigger fish with since it comes in cubes, so you can just break the cubes into nice mouth-sized pieces and soak them in tank water in a little cup (I use a measuring jug for medications, very cheap) and you can just pour it in. They will also slowly dissolve, so all fish will most likely get their share!
Brine Shrimp are also good, high in fiber, I have them in gel-form for the fish Smiley

Skwishee: Maybe you should start cutting them with a toothpick? When I first fed peas to my tiny fantails I used to split each half of a pea into 4 pieces, so it was in the end pretty much enough ti give them just one pea, and then they were happily grazing for the rest of them on the bottom Smiley It does happen that the goldfish take too big bits to chew, but if you leave them alone with it, they eventually will have gnawed it down xD Mine tend to snatch the pleco pellets and you may know how dense those can be!! Either way, they just swim about, chewing them until they're gone and swallowed Cheesy Happy, full goldfish Tongue

Don't bother with holiday blocks! They'll lay there and constantly dissolve while you can't do anything to keep the nitrates down D: Your fish will most likely over eat on it too since she's a goldfish... Wink Just save that money and get some better food for her instead, it's only healthy for goldfish to fast every once in a while, it clears out the digestive system Smiley
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Re: Guide to Feeding Veggies
« Reply #94 on: October 16, 2011, 09:12:25 AM »

Yeah the holiday blocks I have, I think I'll give to the snails! I read that plaster of paris is good for their shells Cheesy (Plus it'll be handy when the baby snails are here!)

The holiday food I linked there, is supposedly better than blocks, as it doesn't contain any plaster of paris, but I see what you mean, Lucky would just gorge herself silly! Weekend food sticks? I bet it wouldn't last her a day, seeing how fast she eats!
When I put in small stalks of brocolli for her the dark green top alone is gone in 15 minutes XD

Yeah I'll try and do that with the pea next time, thanks! I tried giving her some blood worms in gel yesterday (they come in little packets), she ate a bit of it, but didn't seem all that interested, so I don't think she likes them all that much!
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Re: Guide to Feeding Veggies
« Reply #95 on: October 16, 2011, 11:48:49 AM »

Heh, sounds like she's the perfect goldie!! Grin Greedy as a madman when it comes to food Cheesy

Maybe she doesn't enjoy the gel? The ones I have are kind of mixed inside the gel (but I also have frozen ones) so you pop that into the tank simply. You could try freeze-dried blood worms maybe? Smiley
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Re: Guide to Feeding Veggies
« Reply #96 on: October 16, 2011, 03:01:30 PM »

Over a year huh? O.o That's a great value for that little price, especially for sea weed I'd imagine it to be more pricey. I'm surprised it'll keep that long. lol I've have to get some and see how they take to it.
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Re: Guide to Feeding Veggies
« Reply #97 on: October 17, 2011, 03:00:35 AM »

Just be sure to seal that little plastic bag around it after each feeding and it should stay fresh Smiley
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Re: Guide to Feeding Veggies
« Reply #98 on: October 17, 2011, 04:10:12 AM »

Yeah the little packets tetra has are annoying, so I was putting bits of it on my fingers.
The issue with the packets is that not only can you not tell how much bloodworm is about to pour out of it, but when it does, it comes out in clumps >.>

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See how in the image, all the blood worms fall out perfectly? Does not happen in real life!

Freeze dried sounds like a better idea, I'll have to give it a go!
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Re: Guide to Feeding Veggies
« Reply #99 on: October 17, 2011, 07:13:35 AM »

Hi all!  I just carved a HUGE pumpkin, and I was wondering if I could share a bit of the "pumpkin guts" with my fish.  No seeds, of course, but I'm wondering if they'd love that slimy, stringy part.  Anyone know if it would be something they'd like?
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Re: Guide to Feeding Veggies
« Reply #100 on: October 17, 2011, 09:13:51 AM »

Skwishee: Did you just cut out small corners of the bag and squeeze just a bit at a time?? I do that with my gel bags, trying to squeeze small lumps at a time out so that everyone will get a few bits Smiley Maybe that would help??

Nicole: Pumpkins are related to zucchini, right?? I bet it'd be just fine! Cheesy
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Re: Guide to Feeding Veggies
« Reply #101 on: October 19, 2011, 09:31:10 AM »

Yeah that's what I learnt after the first time (there were blood worms everywhere, when I squeezed to much in!).
I was squeezing bits on to my fingers, but Lucky didn't seem that eager about it.
Plus she only has a fraction of a packet, so the one I opened I folded over and sealed with a paper clip, but I'm not sure if the food will be okay kept like that??

Pumpkins sounds like an interesting one to try, let us know what they think Nicole Cheesy
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Re: Guide to Feeding Veggies
« Reply #102 on: October 19, 2011, 02:13:31 PM »

At first, I used to feed half a bag to my fish, and I folded it and taped and it was fine to feed them the next day Smiley
I guess it depends on how long you'd have it stored. It might help if you'd put the opened bag in the fridge though? Smiley
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Re: Guide to Feeding Veggies
« Reply #103 on: October 20, 2011, 05:08:59 AM »

Ahh the fridge! Good idea, I store spare veggies for Lucky in the fridge for a day or two sometimes, so I imagine it would be fine for the opened packets to be kept that way. Will keep that in mind for next time!
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Re: Guide to Feeding Veggies
« Reply #104 on: October 20, 2011, 10:09:13 AM »

Sure! Wink
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Re: Guide to Feeding Veggies
« Reply #105 on: October 20, 2011, 04:12:06 PM »

I have a random (potentially st*pid) question about sea weed, do you guys think it would be okay to give goldfish Sushi Nori?
It's supposed to be 100% sea weed, that's been roasted. Does anyone have experience with using it and/or know if its okay?

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Oh also, I re call someone was earlier asking about nutritional values of foods and such?
I found this website some of you have probably come across, but this article could be handy;
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It has various recipe's and gives you the nutritional value of the gel blocks they create Cheesy I've yet to give it any of them a try, but making goldfish food sounds like fun ^_^
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Re: Guide to Feeding Veggies
« Reply #106 on: October 21, 2011, 02:38:03 AM »

I have been thinking about it, but since I bought the omega one seaweed before I got the sushi nori, I haven't found the answer.. c:

Usually the nutritional values are mentioned on the packages of the foods.
At least here it wouldn't be of use to try making your own foods, it would end up far more expensive and unsafe than buying ready made goldfish foods. For instance, it's close to impossible to find any of the sea foods unsalted here Tongue (That's the only reason my babies aren't feasting on fresh clams once a week)
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Re: Guide to Feeding Veggies
« Reply #107 on: October 21, 2011, 02:59:31 PM »

I'll check out the ingrediants on the back of the packet, when I next go shopping. But if it says Seaweed only, then it should be okay?

Also, just gave Lucky a little bit of carrot for the first time, just feeding her little chunks at a time, like I do with peas. She was so funny, as I was watching her, she was swimming in the front of the tank looking at me, chomping like crazy as if to say 'what is this?'
She came back up to my hand for more, so I can only assume she liked it Cheesy

I find it a bit difficult getting the right sized amounts for her though? How do you guys find its easiest to serve carrot as it were?
What I had was a stick of frozen carrot I cooked with some brocolli yesterday, then just broke off a small amount of it and cut it up into little pieces. I wasn't sure if soft carrot would be easy enough for her to pull bits from, off the veggie clip, like she does with the brocolli.
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Re: Guide to Feeding Veggies
« Reply #108 on: October 23, 2011, 01:18:29 PM »

Absolutely Smiley But I do think the Nori is a lot thicker, so it might be an idea to make sure you soak it a little in the tank first, Lucky won't mind nibbling it while you do Wink Just so it won't be left mostly hard and dry by the surface Smiley

I don't feed carrots to mine, I just don't eat much of them myself. But if I would, I think I'd do it the same way you did, it sounds like it worked! Cheesy And if it's boiled it should be soft enough for her to bite off etc... Smiley
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Re: Guide to Feeding Veggies
« Reply #109 on: October 23, 2011, 03:05:59 PM »

Yeah I can't stand carrots either, but we have this mixed veg. frozen bag, annoyingly though everything's frozen into one big block, so I've been wacking it really hard against the kitchen surface to get the brocolli free for Lucky.

It is however becoming more and more difficult to get the brocolli out Roll Eyes, so I gave up and picked out a carrot piece instead XD

But thanks for the advice on the nori! I think I'll get some and give it a go (once I've checked the ingredients of course Wink) Lucky seems to eat everything anyway, so I'm sure she'll like it Cheesy
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Re: Guide to Feeding Veggies
« Reply #110 on: November 12, 2011, 09:48:07 PM »

Has anyone tried blueberries? Sorry if I missed it...I just opened this bag of frozen and they are tiny, the big guys could eat whole.
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Re: Guide to Feeding Veggies
« Reply #111 on: November 13, 2011, 08:25:07 AM »

Fruits and berries have pretty much of acids and sugars in them, so they should be fed only as a treat Smiley They can foul the water as well, so it's better to feed them such things the day before a water change or so, just to be safe.
I think the peel on the berries might be hard for the goldfish to eat too, so you should pop them out of the shells just like you do with peas.
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Re: Guide to Feeding Veggies
« Reply #112 on: November 13, 2011, 12:47:51 PM »

Thanks Nossie. I decided to forgoe the berries. Thanks so much for this thread! My fish have such a variety these days and are very healthy for it.
If anyone is looking for a good staple diet try Aqueon flakes, pellets or granules. They don't add dyes or anything to make the food look appealing to human eyes (they still add vitamins minerals etc).
Also I only feed my fishies organic veggies (it's easy since thats what we eat), if a pesticide will kill an insect it probably isn't safe for a fish- at least scrub really well!
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Re: Guide to Feeding Veggies
« Reply #113 on: November 13, 2011, 12:55:27 PM »

Maybe thats one reason why it's sometimes advised to partially cook veg?

I usaully cook my veggies in some water in the microwave, so anything nasty is obliterated by heat and radiation Cheesy
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Re: Guide to Feeding Veggies
« Reply #114 on: November 13, 2011, 01:31:04 PM »

Heh, Radioactive goldfish! Grin

cheri_alexander: What a luxury diet your goldfish are getting, very nice to hear Smiley

Skwishee: I think it is Smiley And some of them are also pretty hard for the goldfish to eat if they're not boiled first.
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Re: Guide to Feeding Veggies
« Reply #115 on: November 13, 2011, 05:50:10 PM »

Plus they can't digest cellulose can they? So with green veg like lettuce cooking them is also to get rid of the cellulose?
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Re: Guide to Feeding Veggies
« Reply #116 on: November 14, 2011, 02:34:21 PM »

Yep, it is Smiley
Some people even advice against giving spinach at all for example, because it's nothing like the sea plants goldfish are used to eating. Mine don't like lettuce at all, so I'm just feeding them algae as "grass based" foods Tongue (If I can call it that.)
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Re: Guide to Feeding Veggies
« Reply #117 on: November 15, 2011, 06:30:22 PM »

I don't understand how you can even cook lettuce in all honesty. I tried once, it went all soggy and I think 'Does Lucky really want to eat this?' XD

What is interesting behaviour, is how I started giving her zuchinni. So the first piece I put in, she got excited at the sight of the clip but then realised it wasn't brocolli (that's all I use the clip for at the moment). She then barely touched it for an entire day XD
Yet after having it once or twice, she eats in no time at all, so I wonder, does it takes her a while to get used to new foods or to decide on wether she likes something?
It's almost like the first time she's like 'What is this? *nibble* *swims about thinking* Do I like it? *nibble* Should I eat more of this?*nibble nibble* Had enough now I'm gonna swim about the tank!'

Although my partner brought some fresh brocolli the other day so when we boil that up Lucky will be happy! Cheesy

Also for feeding them algae, where do you get it? Or do you give them the wafers?
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Re: Guide to Feeding Veggies
« Reply #118 on: November 16, 2011, 01:58:51 AM »

So cute Smiley Maybe she did need to think about it a little, but then realized that "HEY! Did I check under that rock there yet?!" and sort of forgot until next time you gave her squash and it tasted somewhat familiar and made her feel nostalgic and then she liked it. (This was a bit more of random talk than I expected.... xD)

The sheets of sea weed I have is made from algae Smiley but I have several algae based pellets, like "goldy color spirulina" by Sera and "Super veggie pellets" by Omega One. Sometimes they eat the pleco's algae pellets as well (but they're smaller than the wafers I usually feed him).
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Re: Guide to Feeding Veggies
« Reply #119 on: November 26, 2011, 03:48:41 PM »

Can you feed goldfish corn? O.o
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