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Yubonne
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Cloudy water
« on: October 16, 2010, 12:49:09 PM »

I've tried everything! I cannot get the tank to be pretty and crystal clear.  Angry

I've changed the water weekly. Nearly 60 % over the past week. Changed the food. Cut back on feeding. There's nothing in the bottom except a cave, a coral-thingie, and 3 river rocks ( all purchased at the fish store).

There's no food lying around-it doesn't stand a chance with their appetites! Cheesy
No poop lying about. I vacuum frequently. The tank and ornaments aren't slimey. It isn't green. The filter gets cleaned about every 2 weeks-changed if needed at 3-4 weeks. The bio-bag balls stay with the tank water while cleaning so I don't lose any good bacteria.

I even tried some of that chemical water clearer stuff!

What the heck am I doing wrong?!!! Huh Huh Huh

Do I just have bad tap water? Is it the decorations? Lack of gravel on the bottom? Do I need a bigger filter?

Arrrrrgh!!!!!!! Angry Angry Angry    Helllllllp!!!!! Sad
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Nossie
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Re: Cloudy water
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2010, 06:08:06 PM »

Maybe your fanatic cleaning has disturbed the beneficial bacteria? Test the water maybe? Smiley
Sometimes it can get cloudy because the bacteria are trying to settle somewhere or something, otherwise, you could try seeing if there's nothing dissolving from the decor.

How big is this tank, how many fish, and how big filter do you have currently?
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Yubonne
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Re: Cloudy water
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2010, 06:46:54 PM »

I don't know the water is like looking through a murky pond-just never clear. I tried another chemical clearer from API and changed the carbon. It seemed to help somewhat. I don't want to keep disturbing the water too much.

It's a 25 gal tank. 3 fish and the filter is a AquaClear 30 supposed to work for up to 30 gal tanks.
I could go up to a 50 they have them on sale now.
I forget what the water rate turnover for it is without finding the instruction sheet for it.

I tried taking the decorations out for a bit to see if it helped but I felt sorry for the fish. A day later they were looking for their cave. They love to hang out inside it especially the black moor. He goes in there to get away from the other two who fight at feeding time. Roll Eyes

I'm going to test the water later and see if the numbers are telling me anything weird.
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Hanna
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Re: Cloudy water
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2010, 07:49:36 PM »

How did you use the clearer? What does it say on the bottle?

I had a similar problem in the big tropical tank, bought Clarity from Seachem. It only sais to put a certain amount per so many litres. Nothing else.
But what I did after there was no improvement : add this amount every day for about 1 week. ALL is perfect now, water chrystal clear.
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Andrea
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Re: Cloudy water
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2010, 10:41:03 PM »

I think you may be over cleaning. I know alot of people don't have gravel in their tanks and I'm not againest not having it, but don't alot of beneficial bacteria live in the gravel so you not having gravel may not help? I would just leave it for a bit, just do a water change once a week and keep up the beneficial bacteria. It should sort itself out and if your fish are fine and the actual water quality is fine then I wouldn't worry about it.
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Hanna
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Re: Cloudy water
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2010, 01:51:27 AM »

Sometimes it is another reason you just cannot explain.
As I sure did not over clean our tropical tank only did the usual. Waterchemistry was spot on, fishes happy but a somehow murky yellowish looking water. I decided to have a go at Clarity. It worked wonders after using it: 2 cap full for 130 l every day for one week.
Straight after adding it makes it more cloudy but this disappears after 3-4 hours. It is a sign that it works.
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Nossie
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Re: Cloudy water
« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2010, 03:55:56 AM »

If you don't have gravel, the bacteria don't have anywhere to settle, except the filter, and it sounds like it is a rather small filter actually, for keeping goldfish, and especially three of them in a 25 gal.
I'm pretty curious about how long this tank has been setup, and also whether you use any water conditioners.
If you're feeding flakes, they could easily cloud the water if you're using some bad quality flake, so if I was you, I'd skip the flakes completely, and buy some nice pellets for your fish instead. They're easier to eat, and more suitable for goldfish over 2 inches.
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Mindemae
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Re: Cloudy water
« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2010, 10:17:32 AM »

It sounds to me like the bacteria are having trouble finding a home and if you test your water I'ma betting that your tank has not cyled properly.  before a tank is cycled if you are constantly vaccumming up the poop then you are starving the good bacteria so to speak.  The good bacteria have to have some wastes to live on.  I'm sure the 30 gallon filter is quite alright.  Your fish are probably not to big at this point.  Buy some bacteria booster and add right to your filter!  Leave the aquarium alone and don't touch it unless it is to make a small 10% water change weekly.  It will clear up in time, you just are messing with it too much!
Also, do you have a water tester?  Test you water and only do a water change if the ammonia or nitrites are high!  Otherwise leabve it alone and let it finish cycling!!! Smiley
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