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Skwishee
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Re: Have a question about tank size and health.
« Reply #300 on: November 02, 2011, 03:26:02 PM »

Nossie, when is breeding season for the goldies? I wasn't sure if fish had that in aquariums, when temperature is a constant thing? (I thought temperature was what triggered the behaviour? Maybe I'm wrong XD)
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Re: Have a question about tank size and health.
« Reply #301 on: November 02, 2011, 04:14:45 PM »

It is hard to tell. Guess I'll have to wait. I had an easier time telling the gender of my tarantulas lol.
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Re: Have a question about tank size and health.
« Reply #302 on: November 03, 2011, 06:27:10 AM »

As most animals, goldfish will breed in spring when the temperature rises and more food will be available, so if you'd like to trigger breeding behavior, it's a good idea to start feeding them more often with live foods, bloodworms, tubifex and various shrimp for example, as well as raising the temperature in the tank slowly and gradually Smiley

But as we've also discussed, it can take up to 15 years for a goldfish to get sexually mature... Wink But of course that can also happen within a year, so it all depends on the goldfish Cheesy
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Re: Have a question about tank size and health.
« Reply #303 on: November 08, 2011, 04:00:08 PM »

Bob, Larry and Curly are still doing well. I fed them some carrots today which they did'nt seem to fond of XD so I switched to peas which they gobbled up. I'm going down to Big Lots today to apply for work, they're hiring for seasonal positions. Wish me luck. Smiley
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Re: Have a question about tank size and health.
« Reply #304 on: November 08, 2011, 06:42:25 PM »

Ha, carrots, my fish are not fond of them either, they spit it out with a look of disdain on their faces... and good luck with your application for work... cheers
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Re: Have a question about tank size and health.
« Reply #305 on: November 09, 2011, 04:01:09 AM »

Lucky doesn't mind a bit of carrot, its zuchinni/courgette she doesn't seem to fond of at the moment!

Good luck with the job GoldFishNoob!
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Re: Have a question about tank size and health.
« Reply #306 on: November 09, 2011, 07:03:15 PM »

Speaking of peas. Tongue

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Re: Have a question about tank size and health.
« Reply #307 on: November 10, 2011, 05:37:02 AM »

Awww the little one just took the whole pea!
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« Reply #308 on: November 10, 2011, 06:31:07 PM »

Not a whole pea, hehe. I pinch off little bite sized bits. That peice he was chasing in the beginning was too large and ended up sinking to the bottom and getting lodged on the plant. XD
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Re: Have a question about tank size and health.
« Reply #309 on: November 11, 2011, 06:21:18 AM »

Aww cute! Haha it was quite sweet how he chased after it!
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Re: Have a question about tank size and health.
« Reply #310 on: November 11, 2011, 04:05:43 PM »

Hehe now I have a question about breeding goldies. I know that in the tarantula keeping hobby cross breeding species is taboo, but how is hybridization viewed in the fish community? I know that Lionchus are hybrids...also, if you have, say a male common goldfish and a female comet goldfish, could they possibly breed?
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Re: Have a question about tank size and health.
« Reply #311 on: November 12, 2011, 11:56:23 AM »

They could, and most likely would, breed without any bigger problems. When it comes to goldfish genetics, say you cross a fantail and a telescope eye, only some of the offspring will have the protruding eyes and the rest will be normal fantails. (In some cases it may turn out so that a few of the babies would have only one protruding eye).
So it wouldn't in any way damage the goldfish, but they would in no way be useful for breeding or showing, if you breed pet shop-standard fish.
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Re: Have a question about tank size and health.
« Reply #312 on: November 15, 2011, 05:32:18 PM »

An intriguing question just came to mind, it's strange so just roll with me here lol

Say some one has a backyard with a pool and/or spa, but they don't use the spa very much could that person convert it into a pond like set up for goldfish?
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Re: Have a question about tank size and health.
« Reply #313 on: November 15, 2011, 06:03:20 PM »

It could be done. I have seen pools converted to ponds.
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Re: Have a question about tank size and health.
« Reply #314 on: November 16, 2011, 01:26:57 AM »

Sure! Cheesy That could end up pretty handsome with some nice plants made in pots around the bottom and sides of the pond... Smiley
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Re: Have a question about tank size and health.
« Reply #315 on: November 19, 2011, 05:49:13 PM »

Not saying I'm gonna get any, but I saw some really cute little Red Cap Orandas at PetCo. How big a tank would a pair of Red Caps need?
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Re: Have a question about tank size and health.
« Reply #316 on: November 20, 2011, 07:54:54 AM »

30 gallons.
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Re: Have a question about tank size and health.
« Reply #317 on: November 23, 2011, 05:29:52 PM »

Cleaned the gravel and the filter today and while it was light I moved it back to my room because we need the small table in the living room to put the X-Mas tree on. Everybodies doing wonderful. Smiley I'm gonna keep em' here, they get more light from the window which they seem to like instead of being in a dark corner all the time. Also...I'm wondering if fish really do sleep? Cause I noticed as it gets closer to night they tend to mellow out and just float around, when the lights are off they do it too. I turned my light off and went into the living room, came back a few hours later, turned the light back on and it looked like it took them a minute to "wake up" and become active again.

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Re: Have a question about tank size and health.
« Reply #318 on: November 24, 2011, 07:44:01 AM »

Fish do sleep, I'd forgotten to turn my light on before I left for work at like 3/4pm so when I came home around 7/8pm it was pretty dark, so upon turning the light on as I walked in, I saw Lucky resting on the bottom of the tank snuggled next to the plant  Cheesy
She looked rather cute!

It's the only time I've ever really seen her 'sleeping' as such, as like you've mentioned, I always see her floating around at night.

If you are keeping the tank there, maybe get a thermometer? You can get ones with sucker caps that are really cheap, I only mention it because sometimes windows can be drafty and will cause temperature fluctuations, so a thermometer will make it easy for you to make sure that doesn't happen (if it does you may have to move the tank) Smiley
Another thing to look out for is if the tank gets too much sun, algae may start growing.

But apart from that, I'm glad to hear their doing well ^_^
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Re: Have a question about tank size and health.
« Reply #319 on: November 24, 2011, 09:18:54 AM »

I certainly will look into getting a themometer and will make sure they don't get too much sun. During the summer months I usually close my window when the sun starts coming through anyways because it tends to shine on my tarantulas and sun is no good for them. It crossed my mind to ask about Plecos when I saw some a PetCo BUT I don't think it's a good idea for a few reasons really....1) More food to buy. 2) Tank is already at it's limit as far a load. 3) I heard of Plecos sucking the slime coat off Goldies.

But back to the subject of thermometers, what temps are too hot/cold for goldies that I need to look out for?
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Re: Have a question about tank size and health.
« Reply #320 on: November 24, 2011, 10:39:06 AM »

The thermometer would definitely be a good idea! Smiley And maybe, if you notice that it's drafty, you could stuff a towel or a blanket in the corners/edges of the window. It looks really nice and like they're enjoying their stay Smiley
Goldfish enjoy temperatures between 20-27 degrees, roughly, and it should naturally drop a degree or two during the night, so if you'd notice it changing more than this (which is pretty possible in such a small tank), you should probably think about insulating the window with something or covering it with a pillow closest to the tank Smiley

I agree on the pleco, they grow insanely fast! And would outgrow that tank and everything in a few months only, I had my pleco for 6 months and he had grown an additional 11cm from when I bought him... (about 5 inches)

How's the water quality recently? Smiley
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Re: Have a question about tank size and health.
« Reply #321 on: November 24, 2011, 11:30:53 AM »

Have'nt gotten anything to test the water yet but so far I have'nt seen anything behaviore wise or physically that indicates a problem and I have'nt seen any ammonia burns in a while either. Plus I just cleaned the gravel which usually results in a 70% water change. XD I do that every week or so when the gravel starts getting bad.
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Re: Have a question about tank size and health.
« Reply #322 on: November 24, 2011, 02:13:13 PM »

Yeah my weekly water changes are around 70/80% to get a proper clean on the gravel!

When I change the water, my tank temp. goes down a degree or two, to about 18/19 degrees Celsius, but Lucky doesn't seem bothered, in fact she loves swimming through the bubbles as I pour the fresh water in!  Cheesy

If the fish seem to be okay, then just pick up a water test kit when ever you can, it's just handy to have around really  Smiley
Glad they're doing well. Any plans of a bigger tank or is that something you'll be doing later on down the line hun?
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Re: Have a question about tank size and health.
« Reply #323 on: November 24, 2011, 04:02:58 PM »

Right, I forgot you didn't have a test kit! But the tank is probably cycled now, and since you're cleaning it so often it's probably okay Smiley

Like Skwishee asked, I'd also like to know if you're planning on a bigger tank soon?
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Re: Have a question about tank size and health.
« Reply #324 on: November 24, 2011, 04:12:26 PM »

you might want to use a product such as Tetra Easy Balance....just add weekly, it helps prevent "spikes"
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Re: Have a question about tank size and health.
« Reply #325 on: November 24, 2011, 08:11:01 PM »

I mention the bigger tank to dad every once in a while but it always gets a little heated and he says "We'll deal with it when the time comes, you're worrying about something that has'nt happened yet. " So while the 40 gal is'nt out of the question it seems it may not happen until the need is pressing. :/ As it is, I don't have the money right now and I want to cash in on that $1 galon sale when PetCo has it again. I guess as far as everyone here is concerned, including me sometimes, if they're healthy, happy and swimming around there is'nt an issue.
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Re: Have a question about tank size and health.
« Reply #326 on: November 25, 2011, 02:57:31 PM »

Funnily enough, my partner said the exact same thing to me!

Don't worry too much, I just thought I'd ask Smiley

Also Scrivens posted this in another thread, but I thought you might find it helpful;

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I am sure your little guys are fine, but I thought this would be handy for future reference  Smiley
Plus if you wanted you could always show it to your parents, it might help give them a more visual idea of the potential size your little ones can grow to  Cheesy
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Re: Have a question about tank size and health.
« Reply #327 on: November 26, 2011, 12:13:59 AM »

Whenever I show them how big goldfish can get I always get the response "But they won't get that big for a while."

My fish might be in the 2-4 months old backet, but it's hard to tell with them being different sizes.

My littlest one is a little over an inch long. The middle one is about an inch and a half and my large common goldy is two inches. They've grown noticably since I got them, fins are growing long and flowy and you can see every little detail in them.
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Re: Have a question about tank size and health.
« Reply #328 on: November 26, 2011, 01:38:39 PM »

Well if they're growing nicely then that's always a good sign ^_^

I think my little Lucky must be around 6 months, as I'm pretty sure she's around 2 inches now (possibly even 3?), it's a little difficult to measure her when she swims around so much XD But she's definitley grown since I first had her.
It's really just a case of getting a bigger tank for them so they don't get stunted and have plenty of room to grow into  Smiley But with yours being so little right now, you will have some time, maybe even a year to save up and get a nice tank for them ^_^
How are the art commisions going by the way?

Also keep in mind you may have to upgrade the 40 gallon after 5 or 6 years, just to accomodate their growth  Smiley As you can see they get pretty big! I'm looking forward to when Lucky's all grown up with her mo hawk  Cheesy
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Re: Have a question about tank size and health.
« Reply #329 on: November 26, 2011, 02:27:24 PM »

Oh of course, I'm pretty sure I'll be in a better situation financially in 1-5 years time. At least I hope. O.o lol I'm 98% sure I'll be able to get them a bigger tank in the future, the other 2% being if they should happen to ( Heaven forbid) die or there's some sort of tank size limit here. Unfortunately I have'nt gotten any new art comissions yet. :/
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