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Skwishee
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Re: Have a question about tank size and health.
« Reply #330 on: November 26, 2011, 06:29:25 PM »

Awww no  Embarrassed How did that job for the seasonal work go?

And I know how you feel about the tanks! I'm attempting to save 500 for a massive 350 litre tank XD Hoping I can get it in 4 or 5 years time (it will take ages to save that kind of money, with what I'm earning now!) But here's hoping I get a higher paid job in the next few years!
And it's all so Lucky can grow happy and have some friends! How bonkers is that, all that money for a fish I got for free Cheesy

Although I must admit, planning it is a lot of fun and it will all be worth it, just to see what Lucky looks like with her mo hawk when she's older  Grin
Another way to look at it, is how it's more of an investment you know? It'll be a tank that you get to use for the rest of your life, if treated right! My dad has had his tank for over 10 years! Plus people spend way more money on other hobbies, like gaming and buying new computers! So I thought to myself, if other people can have crazy expensive hobbies, so can I!

Also I measured Lucky today, after you mentioned how much yours had grown and she is pretty much around 3 inches!!
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Re: Have a question about tank size and health.
« Reply #331 on: November 26, 2011, 08:51:08 PM »

I turned in an application but I have'nt heard anything on the seaonal work. :/
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Re: Have a question about tank size and health.
« Reply #332 on: November 27, 2011, 04:09:24 PM »

It's hard to get commissions.. many people don't want to pay for art :/ I personally prefer commissioning little accessories, like brooches, hand-sewn, that I can't make myself. Maybe you're good at making little sculptures or other crafts? Smiley
I've managed to sell a few smaller cards for Christmas for example! Smiley

Oh, and the goldfish won't be 12 inches by tomorrow of course, but it's not only about the size... wish they could sort of realize that :/ When my parents visit and see the tank they're sort of like "OMG, IT'S HUGE, you could fit a lot more fish there!" but I really can't. It's just something that's hard for people to grasp if they don't understand the nitrogen cycle or how the water quality changes overtime Smiley I know how it is with parents that know it all and won't really listen to anyone younger (not my parents but you know, friends' parents.) I do hope you'll find a job soon! Struggling with the same myself Tongue
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Re: Have a question about tank size and health.
« Reply #333 on: November 27, 2011, 06:59:21 PM »

Yeah I tried explaining Goldfish growth to someone visiting, I had to pop to the aquarium shop and whilst there I showed them the baby fantails in one tank (less than inch) and the adult ones in another tank (they were huge!) and tried to explain, this is how much goldfish grow, Lucky will grown even more because she's of the single tailed variety.

Then when we were at the counter, they pointed to a small tank with lots of small tropical fish and was like 'well those fish are fine'
I was like '....they're a competely different fish' XD

Plus it doesn't help that so many small tanks have pictures of goldfish on them! Not to mention all the st*pid myths, like Goldfish grow to the size of their tank. I even read that in a Dorling Kindsley book in a library the other week! I couldn't believe it! It had size for goldfish noted as 'various' because they grow to the size of the tank, so they couldn't advise on suitable environments, I nearly threw the book out of the window!
With so much mis-information out there, it's no wonder people like myself get the wrong information and wrong ideas Undecided Had it not been for me coming here, I would have gone on believeing that Lucky would be fine in that 21 litre tank!

So anyway... that aside... (sorry for my mini rant there XD) I hope you find a job soon!
Maybe you could ask in art shops for seasonal work as I imagine you have quite a bit of knowledge there? The staff discount would be pretty nice too!
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Re: Have a question about tank size and health.
« Reply #334 on: November 28, 2011, 06:17:56 AM »

My local Pets-at-home store sells 30-litre Goldfish tanks; the largest they stock!!....honestly it says Goldfish tank on the box

Their "expert" advisor says that this will house 3 fancy Goldfish such as Oranda


THIS IS WHAT WE ARE UP AGAINST Angry
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Re: Have a question about tank size and health.
« Reply #335 on: November 28, 2011, 12:23:57 PM »

... 30 liters, for 3 orandas?

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Re: Have a question about tank size and health.
« Reply #336 on: November 28, 2011, 06:07:32 PM »

I've thought about applying at an art store, but the thing is, even though I'm technically an "artist" my knowledge of other mediums/material aside from what I can afford is limited. So basically I know only what I'm experienced in using. XD Plus the only art stores nearby don't seem to get alot of action, so a can imagine a job there would be incredibly boring.

Uh oh. Nossie means buisness. Stay out of the way or better yet....RUN! O.o
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Re: Have a question about tank size and health.
« Reply #337 on: November 29, 2011, 05:26:42 AM »

I doubt you'll need to know every single brush and what it does to get a job at an art shop! Smiley
I don't like using oils or acrylics so I don't have too much experience with that, and also, most people that know what they're doing will go to an art shop rather than a book store, so you don't have to explain just why the red paint is red Cheesy At least around here Smiley
You could always try! Cheesy
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Re: Have a question about tank size and health.
« Reply #338 on: November 29, 2011, 06:41:25 AM »

Nossie now we gotta find an army!!
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Re: Have a question about tank size and health.
« Reply #339 on: November 29, 2011, 07:11:33 AM »

Yeah when I went to Pets at home, when I first had Lucky and Star, they were out of stock of small tanks, but would have quite happily sold me a tank smaller than the one I have now Angry

The advisor I spoke to, didn't provide any help either, no mention of fish growing to huge amounts or anything.... although I did see they have that Goldfish Growth Chart on the wall, so I felt a little better when I was in there the other day, but it wasn't in a very obvious place.... I wouldn't want to work there, I imagine I'd put a ton of people off buying goldfish the moment '100 litre tank' falls out of my mouth and then they'd never sell any XD

Poor goldfish... I once heard someone call it a 'Goldfish holocaust' and to be honest they probably aren't far from the truth!
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Re: Have a question about tank size and health.
« Reply #340 on: November 29, 2011, 10:07:34 AM »

fantailer: Doubt we could convince the US Army though... xD

Skwishee: I was thinking about trying to find a job in a pet shop, but it'd probably be the same problem.. in the end, sales are very important, and I guess the more baby goldfish they can get squeezed into a 30 liter package deal the better :/
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Re: Have a question about tank size and health.
« Reply #341 on: November 29, 2011, 02:59:20 PM »

If I was to work in a store, I'd want to be in a proper aquarium shop, where I'd hope, my advice would be appreciated more, than in a pet shop  Smiley (Plus there's more fish that way!)
It's beyond me why some places even sell Goldfish, when they're just going to end up in bad homes, not through the fault of the owners, but through the fault of the employees for telling them the proper advice  Undecided

Maybe I should start speaking to people when I see them contemplating buying goldfish... but again you never know who you're about to talk too XD And will they listen to a complete stranger?
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Re: Have a question about tank size and health.
« Reply #342 on: November 30, 2011, 04:11:28 AM »

Aww man.. Cheesy
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Re: Have a question about tank size and health.
« Reply #343 on: November 30, 2011, 04:29:38 AM »

Heh, talking to someone just looking at fish might give you a psycho stamp... xD Unless of course you'd catch some dialogue stating that they're actually very interested, just not sure Wink
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Re: Have a question about tank size and health.
« Reply #344 on: November 30, 2011, 04:58:02 AM »

What I can't understand, is that these stores sell goldfish books, care-sheets and practical fish-keeping magazines. They (or more likely the management) obviously can't read Huh
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Re: Have a question about tank size and health.
« Reply #345 on: November 30, 2011, 01:08:32 PM »

The goldfish books are one word RUBBISH!!!!

I was looking at the books Pets at Home had, thinking maybe I'd find something interesting... nope.
They have just about as much information as the **** employee! In the books there was no mention of stocking or anything about goldfish apart from maybe mentioning 'oh by the way goldfish grow to such and such a size' which people never listen to anyway!

Noss; when I was at Pets at Home the other day I over heard a couple talking about goldfish, the lady was saying to (what I assume was her husband) that the description on the goldfish said they grew to 30cm (at least they read the description!) so they weren't sure on buying them and were looking at over fish (she even said she didn't like fantails Embarrassed). I hovered nearby listening in XD I was thinking about saying something but wasn't sure as they were there for ages and I never saw the conclusion as I had other things to do than stand around eaves dropping lol.

But maybe one day I'll have the courage, I just worry people will be offended, find me rude for interrupting or not want to listen to me as I'm a complete stranger and not an employee >.<

It was easier when I spent a lot of time at the aquarium back home, people occasionally asked me questions XD It was quite bizarre! Maybe standing there with a sketchbook made me look like I knew things?
Perhaps I should try this approach in pet shops! (Not sure they'd let me draw, but you never know!)
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Re: Have a question about tank size and health.
« Reply #346 on: November 30, 2011, 04:13:15 PM »

The newer books are definitely more reliable, however I can't say much about the ones for sale at the shops there since I don't know the titles :/

That's a bit of a shame, I wonder if the couple went home with a betta in a can or a goldfish in a jar that day.
Especially in this country it would be hard to talk to people, because we just never talk to strangers, it's just something forbidden. We just have very small comfort zones and we don't want anyone unknown inside them xD
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Re: Have a question about tank size and health.
« Reply #347 on: December 01, 2011, 04:46:30 AM »

Haha really? I think I seem to attract the most random strangers possible.

Honestly, sometimes the most odd people will start talking to me, like the other day I was walking to the bus stop and had stopped at the traffic lights, when this older gentleman smoking a cigar was like 'How do you walk so fast, when your smaller than me? I feel sorry for your boyfriend' and I explained I generally walk slower if I'm with other people. He then said 'Oh well you dropped something very important you might want to pick it up'.
So I looked around, nothing on the floor, he wasn't holding anything either... so I replied 'There's nothing on the floor'
And then he said 'You dropped my heart because you looked so good'  Hahahahahaha he even said 'Us older generation are the smooth ones' XD Dearie me, I walked away pretty fast after that!

Yeah the couple were deliberating for ages, they seemed to acknowledge the goldfish's growth so I felt maybe they would have gone home with a cold water fish like danio or minnow as they were heading to those tanks when I left.
It's difficult to gauge how someone will re act, here some people like myself will chatter away with a complete stranger, but not everyone is like that. Maybe next time I'm there I'll have the courage to say something!
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Re: Have a question about tank size and health.
« Reply #348 on: December 01, 2011, 05:35:57 AM »

... xD
It's pretty refreshing - possibly slightly creepy - meeting strangers like that, I always enjoy talking to people I meet on the street Smiley Unless they're drunk or otherwise seemingly hostile.

Let's hope so! Smiley But if a pet shop employee came over and said "Goldfish grow really slowly, even if they end up big, you could keep them in a small tank for years!", it couldn't have been hard to convince the couple since they were obviously interested in a goldfish.
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Re: Have a question about tank size and health.
« Reply #349 on: December 01, 2011, 06:20:44 AM »

Yeah I wasn't sure whether to be flattered or slightly creeped out by him XD But he seemed harmless, so I just let it go, he was pretty funny as I was walking away he was commenting on my speed going '1st gear.... into 2nd gear... now at 5th gear!' XD

I imagine they would have asked an employee in the end if they intended on buying something, they were giving it a lot of thought, so I didn't get the feeling they were going to jump at a goldfish and cram into something small, as they read the information properly and knew it would grow to 30cm, but on the other side of things they could have left without buying anything.
Plus Pets at Home has that Goldfish Growth Chart displayed, so I imagine they'd use that when talking to someone about goldfish and so the size would be pretty evident from that alone.

I wouldn't know what to do though if an employee came over and started saying I was wrong XD
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Re: Have a question about tank size and health.
« Reply #350 on: December 01, 2011, 06:28:35 AM »

Now that would be interesting! xD
Bring some super-awesome goldfish book with you. When the employee goes "You're wrong abou-" you can counter/interrupt with "Nope, as stated here in chapter 3 on page 62, row 35 it says.." Tongue
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Re: Have a question about tank size and health.
« Reply #351 on: December 01, 2011, 06:59:57 AM »

Hahaha I actually want to do that!

Maybe I should start carrying a goldfish book around (once I get that nice one about the fancies) then I'd feel much more confident in interrupting people and going 'Excuse me, I couldn't help but hear you talking about goldfish...'  Grin

I wonder if it's possible to get banned from shops for doing that? Or better yet, maybe they'd hire me! Lol, I think next time I will just say something anyway! I'd feel horrible if those people now have a goldfish in a small tank and it was all because I didn't have the guts to say something and some silly employee gave them the wrong advice Embarrassed

Eugh once in another shop I saw someone being sold a small fish bowl and buying a fish, but the employee was right there with them and I was too scared to tell them off for it XD All that shop had for goldfish were bowls and tiny tanks  Embarrassed How can I tell a shop 'you're doing it wrong'?
I am definitely getting my shubunkin baby from there, at least he won't end up in a bowl!

Don't worry fish, we will save you!!!
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Re: Have a question about tank size and health.
« Reply #352 on: December 01, 2011, 07:41:40 AM »

Yeah, that's true :/ Even if the saying goes "The customer is always right", doesn't mean that the employees would allow a customer to know better about their wares than they do!
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Re: Have a question about tank size and health.
« Reply #353 on: December 02, 2011, 08:23:27 PM »

Got a couple early X-Mas presents for the fishies today. I figure I might try to amass a small collection of decorations and other things so when I get my bigger tank it won't be entirely empty. They seem to like them alot, but I've also seen them trying to nibble of the tips of the big plant so I may round off the ends with some scissors. I feel like I have a mini pond in my room now. XD I can give the plants that were in there back to my spiders ( After a thorough cleaning of course. ) The last picture is a plant a got that unfortunately was too tall for my tank so I plan to keep it for the big one.
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Re: Have a question about tank size and health.
« Reply #354 on: December 03, 2011, 08:02:17 AM »

GoldFishNoob why did you name your goldfish you did?

Because I was watching this astronaut video at NASA in Cape Canaveral and one astronaut said after a space walk "what would you name the 3 guys who went out with you?" He said "Curly, Larry and Moe"
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Re: Have a question about tank size and health.
« Reply #355 on: December 03, 2011, 08:35:04 AM »

I have just looked at Petco's recommended stocking levels for goldfish.......Tis horrifying

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« Reply #356 on: December 03, 2011, 12:10:20 PM »

XD I really don't know. I'm not too good at creative names and I thought it was cute. There was a Moe, so it was originally Moe, Larry, Curly and Bob, but Moe passed away a couple weeks after I brought him home. So now my stooges are incomplete. :/

That web page is full of bad suggestions and bad examples of what to do with goldfish. >.<;

It's accured to me on multiple occassions that pet stores don't care about their fish. Especially their feeders, which might I point out, should be healthy because they are going to be consumed by another living creature. Case in point, just yesturday when I went to PetCo, over by the feeder tank their was a orange golfish like my Larry ON THE FLOOR. At first I thought it was dead, but I saw it take a shallow breath. I told my mum to go get some one and she did. After about 5 minutes a guy turns up, scoops the fish up off the ground and places it back in the feeder tank were it some what recovers and proceeds to struggle to use what's left of it's fin rot-riddled fins to stay afloat. Then he goes "I don't know if he'll make it, but let's hope he does." Psh. Give me a break buddy. Like you care. You're only saying that in front of the customers to look good. If you cared some one would have noticed the near death fish on the floor who had to have been there for a while. If you cared the fish would'nt be in an horrifyingly overcrowded tank were over half look sick, stressed and have some degree of fin rot and who knows what else. Need I meantion the dead fish on the bottom?

*Rolls eyes and facepalms* Good gosh.
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Re: Have a question about tank size and health.
« Reply #357 on: December 03, 2011, 08:07:10 PM »

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I have just looked at Petco's recommended stocking levels for goldfish.......Tis horrifying

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Yes im putting 12 goldfish in my 30 gallon tank. Wow.
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Re: Have a question about tank size and health.
« Reply #358 on: December 04, 2011, 05:31:49 AM »

I could keep like, 30 goldfish in my tank then Grin
Tried to see if there was a way to send an e-mail to that site, but I can't seem to find any "contact" button, not to mention that the petco site is far too flashy for me D:
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Re: Have a question about tank size and health.
« Reply #359 on: December 04, 2011, 06:09:01 AM »

*Fake excited gasp* Then that means I can put 3-4 goldfish in my 10 gal....oh...wait. XD lol
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