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fshguyktown
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Advice?
« on: August 14, 2011, 08:54:57 PM »

So, I have been fish keeping for most of my life and is my favorite hobby. I recently purchased my first goldfish ever and am mesmerized by their grace and charm. I did a ton of research and chose 1 vieltail and 1 fantail. My tank has been established for almost 5 years and is all live planted. It formally housed a mixed tropical comunity. The 2 are aprox 2 inches now. I recently came across a very small baby fantail, who was not well but very unique looking. I purchased the fish and nursed it to health in a hospital tank. I now have moved her to my 29 gal where she is full of life...and they all swim togeather and are very happy. I worry about ammonia levels and how often and how much of water changes. I normally do a 2. A month 1-40% and a 20....is that enough?
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BronzieTheMoor
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Re: Advice?
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2011, 11:55:20 PM »

A 20 what? 20%? 20 gal? If so, 20 gal is A.L.O.T. Wink
Ohh, you do a 20% and a 1-40% a month??
In that case, you're good.
Small weeklys are better but you don't need do that.
 Buy a liquid test kit if you don't have one.
Test it once a month and QUIT worrying! Wink You're perfectly stocked!
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« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2011, 12:00:14 AM »

Oh, I forgot.
I really hope for your sake that those plants are hardy.....or you hate them.
Goldfishes' favorite hobbies include ripping up plants..any and all plants..
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Nossie
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Re: Advice?
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2011, 04:13:25 AM »

Are you testing the ammonia levels? That's the best way to know when to worry Wink Ammonia, nitrite and nitrate should always be tested every day when you have new fish in the tank to be sure there's nothing going on with the aquarium ecology.

If I were you, I'd change the maintenance schedule. Two changes a month is far too little. You need to take out between 40-50% of the water <b>every single week</b>. Vacuum the gravel too, goldfish are surprisingly messy Wink

What kinds of plants do you have?
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fshguyktown
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« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2011, 04:51:03 AM »

Ok good.... the way everyone talks about them being messy I was worried. I have never used test kits but i think i will start on these guys. I lucked out it seems on my plants. I have Java fern, Java moss, money wart and a sword,none of which my fish seem interested in. Everywhere I read said 3 goldfish in a 29 gal were to many...but some places say it depends on how much you change the water.... no one seems to say the same thing. : / thanks for the advice
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« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2011, 09:05:36 AM »

Just wait- if it's an amazon sword, they'll discover how good it tastes in no time! Wink
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« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2011, 11:16:03 AM »

Oh no really...well at least they benefit from it....
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fshguyktown
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« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2011, 11:27:59 AM »

Actually its a balansae plant...do they eat those?
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fshguyktown
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« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2011, 11:44:59 AM »

I really wanted a black moor but don't want to overstock my 29gal and I have 3 now....should I not get one?
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« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2011, 11:52:05 AM »

Hm, a black moor isn't the best idea because of the fact their telescope eyes give them a harder time seeing than veils and fantails. They'd have a hard time getting food. Sad
Besides that, you could get another fantail, probably.
I know about all the conflicting info.
And, I know how darling moors are Smiley, but the goldfish you shouldn't get are- moors, telescope eyes, celestial eyes, or bubble eyes. That or comets/commons.
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fshguyktown
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« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2011, 11:57:23 AM »

Ok thanks... I was hesitant about the bubbled eyed fish. I am not sure then if I will do another one...I love the black moor but maybe I might find another veiltail..

 
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« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2011, 12:07:21 PM »

Another veiltail would be wonderful!
I think you should be completely fine as long as you don't buy a ryukin or moor because of their size. I made that mistake and I'm trying to fix it. I'm a noob. Grin
Yeah, a veil or fan would be great, maybe look into orandas?
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Re: Advice?
« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2011, 12:16:14 PM »

So if I did get a 4th. They would not out grow the 29 gal... I would rather not go any larger of an aquarium.
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« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2011, 12:22:06 PM »

I'm not garunteeing it.
They should be okay, but deff. think about it before you do.
I would, but, I'm still learning.
Nossie is too, but sometimes we all have to wonder if she's hooked up to a computer. Wink
Maybe wait until Nossie gets back on this thread before you do anything.
I'd trust her more than me! But that's off subject. They shouldn't, though, if you stop at four.
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« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2011, 02:41:12 PM »

Don't get any more fish!! 3 fish in a 29 gallon is borderline overcrowded already!!
These little ones you have will be more than enough to keep you going Wink See, it's really important that you don't overcrowd. Goldfish create ammonia just by breathing! Yes, they're hardy, but in case you have filtration for tropical fish, it won't be enough to support a crowded goldfish tank. So please think really carefully about it first. Maybe three fish are enough if you don't want a bigger tank? (I have an 80 gallon, best purchase of my life, btw.......... Wink)
Especially since you're concerned about the ammonia as it is. They won't be making any less of a mess when they'll be six inches long... Grin

Thanks, Bronzie, I'm sort of flattered c':

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« Reply #15 on: August 15, 2011, 05:03:49 PM »

Thanks Nossie an bronzie. I will not get anymore, unless I upgrade my tank. I am very happy with the 3 I have, plus I have been thinking of making lighting improvements. Nossie,  I have a 50/50 bulb now and all live planted, was thinking of going with an LED light top, so i can have other plants. Any suggestions?
 
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« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2011, 06:36:02 AM »

You generally shouldn't put money into plants when you keep goldfish Tongue Really, they'll be eaten. Once the fish will grow you'll soon notice your plants gradually disappearing.
The plants you'll be having are anubias and java fern, the rest will be eaten before you know it, and these two are very hardy plants that do fine without specialized lighting. It'd be a serious waste of money to try and make a nice forest of plants with goldies... xD

I have two standard fluorescent bulbs in my tank, by Arcadia, it's for tropical tanks generally and promotes plant growth Tongue
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Re: Advice?
« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2011, 07:10:59 AM »

Awesome thanks :-)
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