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toffee44
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Hi Im new.....
« on: September 25, 2011, 03:51:45 AM »

Hello. Im kinda new to this keeping goldfish lark. I had fish as a younger kid ( had a red cap and oranda in together in what I now consider a small tank (about 10g) I had them for 6years until I rehomed them to a bigger tank. I then had a couple of shubunkins who are still in my grandads pond today so will be roughly 5 yrs old now.

I was given a tank last month, originally was meant to come with fish, but fish has gone to uni with owner in smaller tank....


I never did water tests etc before and am only just learning about them now. Infact I have a completly different view on keeping fish now. Before I was just lucky and they were probably stunted.

I currently have a 100l tank with 3 goldies in it (plus 2 danios which came with the tank).

I know the tank is too small for what I have but the fish are currently 1" long each
plan is 80g tank for christmas as I have realise that I love keeping fish again.

I only cycled the tank for two week before adding fish (the danios were already there) as this is what I have done before. Now realise this was the wrong way of tackling cycling.

Two weeks in I am doing daily 20% changes with a 50/60% change once a week.

I do not have an ammonia testing kit wyet waiting for it in the post. but I have my pH strips for now until I decided which master kit to buy.
I am also awaiting a new filter (fluval u4) as this stingray hagen thing is useless and tiny for mucky goldies.
Here is my tank setup.


Hello. Im kinda new to this keeping goldfish lark. I had fish as a younger kid ( had a red cap and oranda in together in what I now consider a small tank (about 10g) I had them for 6years until I rehomed them to a bigger tank. I then had a couple of shubunkins who are still in my grandads pond today so will be roughly 5 yrs old now.

I was given a tank last month, originally was meant to come with fish, but fish has gone to uni with owner in smaller tank....


I never did water tests etc before and am only just learning about them now. Infact I have a completly different view on keeping fish now. Before I was just lucky and they were probably stunted.

I currently have a 100l tank with 3 goldies in it (plus 2 danios which came with the tank).

I know the tank is too small for what I have but the fish are currently 1" long each
plan is 80g tank for christmas as I have realise that I love keeping fish again.

I only cycled the tank for two week before adding fish (the danios were already there) as this is what I have done before. Now realise this was the wrong way of tackling cycling.

Two weeks in I am doing daily 20% changes with a 50/60% change once a week.

I do not have an ammonia testing kit wyet waiting for it in the post. but I have my pH strips for now until I decided which master kit to buy.
I am also awaiting a new filter (fluval u4) as this stingray hagen thing is useless and tiny for mucky goldies.
Here is my tank setup.







They are only pets, but I think they are a bit skinny, so I have some questions for you now if thanks ok

1-When is it safe to start feeding veg and bloodworm daphnia etc in terms of where I am in my cycle, should I waiti until my tank stablilises

2-With regards to my Fluval U4 arriving should I start in with my existing filter still running and just change my filter??

sorry about spelling on here, for some reason this typing screen/ boc flashes while I type so I cannot see what I am typing. Thanks

ps fish are currently nameless, I think Gerald suits the telscope shubunkin though. Hes a typical dappy telescope. I was hoping for a black moor but I find it hard to find a nice healthy specimen here (sussex UK) all the tanks I could see in fish tank had dead fish in or not active fish. I had a moor with the redcap before buying the oranda probably my favourite breed.
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toffee44
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Re: Hi Im new.....
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2011, 03:53:39 AM »

Sorry it some how copyed and pasted, I have real issue typing on here as the box I am typing in flashes at me???
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« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2011, 03:53:57 AM »

Also cannot yet post pics but will do as I hit 25 posts
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« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2011, 03:58:21 AM »

Tank parametes are currently:

gh-180
kh-180
ph-7.5
nitrite-0.25 :  ( Am about to do another 50% water change
nitrate-10


Is my GH ok???

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« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2011, 10:23:32 AM »

Honestly, goldfish don't care about anything except for pH, ammonia, nitrite and nitrate. They accept any water hardness etc, because they can easily adapt to new environments Smiley

Your tank is obviously not cycled yet (since the nitrites show) so you should not feed your fish more than once a day or every second day. What you feed doesn't matter that much, but don't worry at all about feeding live foods not being safe! Quite on the contrary it's very nutritious and healthy for your fish Smiley And they need that while they're stressing through a cycling tank.

I have an 83 gallon (317 liter) tank myself, I support your choice completely Wink I think it's perfect size for keeping goldfish Smiley

Your filter: Leave the current one in, and when you get the new one, attach it without removing your old one. It will probably only help having two filters running since you have a pretty small tank. My mom has a 100 liter with two goldfish in it, and the filter gets very, very gunky after only a week of running! I definitely suggest keeping both filters. I have two on my tank as well Smiley

It's going to be exciting to see pictures!! Cheesy
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Re: Hi Im new.....
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2011, 01:15:38 AM »

welcome toffee44, I know your problem with the typing, it flashes or jumps back and forth from line to line once the allocated text area becomes full, it is slightly off-putting... if you have a lot of text to type into the box, maybe do it in word or notepad and copy/paste it in and post it... also Ive noticed some aquarium shops keep their tanks on the cold side to save on electricity, food and maitenence, thats why their fish are not active, I wont buy from them, I like to see some activity and alertness...
cheers and happy fishkeeping.
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« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2011, 01:50:26 AM »

I don't think a shop should be saving money on that kind of stuff... I mean how much could they save on that anyway? :/
Quality over quantity!!
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Re: Hi Im new.....
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2011, 04:26:31 AM »

toffe44 it does that to me too!
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« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2011, 12:32:22 AM »

my thoughts are the same Nossie, to me its backwards thinking, I mean they would probably sell more fish if they were more active, instead of scrimping on the overheads... cheers
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« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2011, 03:46:47 AM »

No question about it!! I usually get my fish from the smaller shop here since I know that he takes such good care of them all, they look so healthy and happy Smiley Not stressed and scared like they do in the bigger shop... I also get all my plants from the smaller place because of the same reasons! (Lol, stressed plants :'D)
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« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2011, 08:25:40 AM »

Well I didnt do a water change for two days as working 8-8 and today my water levels are Ph 7.5 Nitrites-0 and nitrates 20.


I have in it:
1x shubunkin Telescope-Gerald (No idea of gender)
1x goldie with black tips (for now) fantail-I think female
1x Red cap fantail (although sold as oranda)-Male

2x danios which will stay in this tank when I upgrade.

Off to do a 25% change soon.
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Re: Hi Im new.....
« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2011, 08:29:50 AM »

Names still needed for redcap and goldie Smiley
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« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2011, 08:38:26 AM »

Some more pics (just realised how to add them)

This is the set up now
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« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2011, 08:45:54 AM »

And the three goldies

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« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2011, 08:46:34 AM »

Dont ask about "Gary" in the background he appeared one day after my sister visited......
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« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2011, 02:10:45 AM »

They're all so cute!! And I like your setup Smiley
I don't really enjoy empty-looking tanks, and this one's far from it, very cozy Cheesy

What you have is a calico Telescope eye, not a shubunkin Smiley Shubunkins have long bodies and single tail.
The "red cap" is called "tancho" if you wanna be really picky, only the orandas with this marking will be called red caps Smiley

And start changing out 50%, 25% won't make the slightest difference.
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Re: Hi Im new.....
« Reply #16 on: October 01, 2011, 01:10:41 PM »

Very nice photos of your tank setup! Your calico telescope-eye goldfish is very cute. Nice specimens all of them!  Smiley
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« Reply #17 on: October 01, 2011, 04:08:57 PM »

I did a 100% water change today and a shimmy about, New filter has been in for 4 days. (tempted to buy another and have two running when I buy a 80g tank)

I managed to set the filter so that I had a higher current up top (you can see the danios playing on the surface). Forgot how addicting fish can be.

They have names now :

Calico-Gerald (who has the appetite of a pig!!)
Orange and black fancy- Bess
"Tancho"-Barney


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« Reply #18 on: October 02, 2011, 07:22:34 AM »

Don't ever take out all of the water!! Your tank won't cycle then! D: Especially if you used tap water to wash the gravel and filters... :/
50% water changes every other day will be the best for the first 3-4 weeks at least.

I love the names on the little guys by the way... very charming Smiley
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« Reply #19 on: October 02, 2011, 02:21:34 PM »

I only did 80% as it took 8 buckets to fill back up, I dunnow why I typed 100%. I was a inch above the gravel.

All my tests are 0 today but I might be almost fully cycled tbh as the gravel, filter, ornaments and 2 of the plants came wet and "dirty" with the tank then I set the tank up same day other fishy left for uni. (other fish was healthy happy fish, apprantly he now has a girlf and is back in a 100l tank at uni)

How often should I feed bloodworms, I have them frozen in ice cub form. The Danios went mental leavin the goldies to clear up . Quite suprised that the Gerald barged people out of the way. lol
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« Reply #20 on: October 02, 2011, 03:20:32 PM »

In that case, no problem! Sorry :'D

You say everything was basically wet when you got it? That's awesome, it probably helped a lot with the cycling.. Smiley

You can give them bloodworms a couple of times a week, maybe 2-3 times? Smiley
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