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taksedo
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Request your help and opinion!
« on: December 23, 2010, 08:43:02 AM »

Hi!

I would like your help and opinion about my goldfish who recently received this white spot on his forehead and has been increasing since the past three days. She looks healthy and I don't see any kind of stress or other strange behaviours. The water level looks normal but still could not figure out how she got this white spot and whether if it is disease or not. I would like to receive your opinions and advice! I have attached some photos circled in yellow is that white spot of my Philadelphia Goldfish.

Thank You

Taks...
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OrandaLover
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Re: Request your help and opinion!
« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2010, 10:46:56 AM »

I'm not sure, but to me it looks like some sort of fungus... The others will come along and help you soon!

But in the meanwhile, please post your water quality (such as pH and nitrates and ammonia), how large your tank is and how many goldfish you have in it. Thanks! Also go to this topic:

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Thanks!  Smiley And welcome to the forum  Cheesy
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Mindemae
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Re: Request your help and opinion!
« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2010, 11:04:24 AM »

looks like an increase in mucus due to stress or water quality problem.
please do as Orandalover said and test your water and post the results here so we can help you better.
Treating a fish when the water quality is less than perfect may have no effect at all and could actually do more harm than good. Smiley
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taksedo
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As requested!
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2010, 11:59:50 AM »

1.  20 Gal Aquarium

2. 1 year

3. 2 Goldfish

4. 1 Philidelphia & 1 Telescope

5. Ammonia = 8.0ppm
    Nitrite = 0ppm
    Nitrate = 80ppm
    pH = 6.0
    Temp = 70F/20C

6. Water change done every 2 weeks

7. Waterchanges for 25%

8. Using Prime for water treatment from Seachem

9. Using Stability for beneficial bacteria from Seachem

10. No signs of stress on both my goldfish

As requested I have submitted above the results you required and thank you for replying. Seems like I just found out that my ammonia level hiked up. Don't know what caused it seems like I have to do weekly water change until the ammonia level is zero. But to fix the white spot on my goldfish's head, is there any solution?

Thank You.

Taks.
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Mindemae
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Re: Request your help and opinion!
« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2010, 01:00:38 PM »

Yeah, get rid of the ammonia.
Do water changes more than once a week, how about every other day and start with a huge 50% change asap!
Add water condtioner and beneficial bacteria right to your filter media every time you do a water change!
The excess mucus you are seeing is a result of the fish trying to protect itself fronm the high ammonia level.
Get your water at pristine water condtions asap and I think your goldfish will be fine.
After Your water change, add 4 TBS of aquarium salt.  this will help your fish deal with the stress from the ammonia spike! Smiley
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Hanna
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Re: Request your help and opinion!
« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2010, 01:05:04 PM »

HI Taksedo, welcome to the forum

Here we go: Ammonia toooo high, DANGER. In a cycled tank Ammonia MUST be 0.0ppm
                    Nitrate far toooo high. This one shouldn't go over 40 ppm, better 10-20 ppm
                    pH 6.0 too acidic

Waterchanges: toooo less, especially in this case you should do a 60% waterchange ASAP, monitor your waterquality EVERY day
                      do waterchanges 50% until the water paramaters are right:
                      Ammonia 0, Nitrite 0, Nitrate 10-20, pH ideally 7.2-7.4  

                      Waterchanges 50% per week recommended

Using Prime and Stability is very good, you may increase the dose. Double it while doing those huge waterchanges. Add Stability to your filter media.
What about the pH. Has it been like this all the time? Or only lately? If it dropped, I'd get it back to 7.2 but slowly, not all at once.


20 gal is just ok for 2 fish. ( averadge rule: 10 gal per goldfish... more is always better, but this isn't the problem here )
The problem here is the water quality and the amount and rate of waterchanges.

How much does your filter turn per hour? What kind of filter media do you use?

Your fishies don't take off sometimes as if they are stung by a wasp?

Now , after you've done those huge waterchanges, I'd start to treat with Pimafix and Melafix. Use Aquarium Salt as per instructions.
If Pimafix and Melafix won't help in 2-3 days, I'd swap to a stronger medication like Multicure and get medicated food if you can.
But you MUST do the waterchanges, because adding meds to bad water is more disaster.

GOOD LUCK, Taks

Keep us updated
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Re: Request your help and opinion!
« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2010, 01:08:53 PM »

And please don't use AmmoLock, it is c.r.a.p ( please excuse the expression ) as it gives false readings and you'll never know where you're at.

Hope Minde is right that it is only mucus and not a fungal or bacterial infection.

If dark spots may show up on fishies body it'll be Ammonia burns.
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Re: Request your help and opinion!
« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2010, 01:14:02 PM »

The reason your pH is so low is because your eco-system crashed.
Hense the high ammonia spike!  Good bacteria died and so no one to eat the ammonia.
Anyway, don't start dumping in alot of chemicals until you get your water back in pristine condtions.
Check your filter and see that it is working properly.  Maybe time to upgrade to a bit bigger one??
Also, do you have an air diffuser in your tank?  This is extremely important for good gas exchange.
You will need this as well as a good filter in a goldfish tank.
Keep us updated!
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Re: Request your help and opinion!
« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2010, 01:18:54 PM »

This tank is relatively small, meaning that the water quality is deteriorating faster. In other words, you need to work in a water change every week Smiley About 50% is really good! Cheesy
I'd say if the tank is smaller than... maybe 250 liters, you need to change it at least once a week. And it's not a hard thing to do if you have/get yourself a sort of siphon to clean the gravel with at the same time as you empty the dirty water from the tank Smiley
Your fish will be fine as soon as you'll change the maintenance schedule Wink
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