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goldfishluver12
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Fish Floating on its side
« on: January 24, 2011, 02:41:18 PM »

Ive had my two fantail goldfish for almost 6 months now and there doing fine but i have one concern. My orange fantail likes to float motionless on its side at the surface of the water. It snaps out of it after awhile and swims around with the other fish like its perfectly fine. Im really confused with whats going on with this fish???
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Re: Fish Floating on its side
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2011, 03:23:45 PM »

I'm sure someone with more knowledge will chime in but can you post your water conditions for them please?  Ammonia, nitrite, nitrates, and PH.  That will help them to make sure its not a water problem.  There is a sticky with questions if you could answer those it will make it easier for someone to help determine the problem.   Wink
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Re: Fish Floating on its side
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2011, 04:29:38 PM »

Goldfishluver12, ther is this sticky which sticks out on the top of this section, the green writing. Please copy and paste and answer the questions and post on here.

We need more info to help you.
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goldfishluver12
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Re: Fish Floating on its side
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2011, 02:02:00 PM »

What sticky?
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Re: Fish Floating on its side
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2011, 02:07:41 PM »

When u click on Health and Illness there is a post right under Subject that says, (Sticky):        FOR EVERYBODY AND ALL NEWBIES, please read before posting a Health Issue.  You can copy and paste it and answer the questions, its hard for anyone to just know what is wrong without knowing a bit about the tank, water, ect. first and then can better determine what might be causing the fish to do this.  Could be a water issue to food issue to illness of some sort, the answers will narrow it down for them.   Smiley
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Re: Fish Floating on its side
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2011, 04:33:50 PM »

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What sticky?

Chelsea, just the very first thread in green writing, you just cannot oversee it. Got a pin next to it.

Here I pasted the questions to you, now you only need to copy them, paste in your reply and answer them.
But  read the whole STICKY anyway, please

1. How big is your tank:  Gal / litres

2. For how long has the tank been set up:

3. How many fish:

4. What kinf of fish:

5. What are the water parameters:    Ammonia.........ppm
                                                            Nitrite..............ppm
                                                            Nitrate.............ppm
                                                            pH..........................
                                                            Temp...............degrees Celsius / Fahrenheit

6. How often do you perform water changes:

7. How big are your waterchanges:      .....................%

8. What kind of waterconditioner are you using:

9. Do you add beneficial bacteria:

10. Symptoms your fish is showing:

11. Since when does your fish show these symptoms:    

12. How is the normal behaviour of your fish:

13. How do the other fish behave:

14. Post pics of the sick fish:

15. Do you have a filter on your tank, what kind, how big (gallons per hour)

16. Do you provide extra aeration with an air pump and air stone/diffuser of some kind.



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goldfishluver12
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Re: Fish Floating on its side
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2011, 10:24:55 AM »

1. How big is your tank:  Gal / liters
-my fish tank is a ten gallon for now

2. For how long has the tank been set up:
-almost 5 months

3. How many fish:
-2

4. What kind of fish:
-fantails

5. What are the water parameters:    Ammonia.........ppm
                                                            Nitrite..............ppm
                                                            Nitrate.............ppm
                                                            pH..........................
                                                            Temp...............degrees Celsius / Fahrenheit
-haven't gotten to it yet

6. How often do you perform water changes:
-each week

7. How big are your waterchanges:      .........20............%

8. What kind of waterconditioner are you using:
-tetra

9. Do you add beneficial bacteria:
-no

10. Symptoms your fish is showing:
-it floats on its side for short periods of time then kicks out of it and acts normal

11. Since when does your fish show these symptoms: 
-about 2 weeks 

12. How is the normal behaviour of your fish:
-plays with the other fish, eats normal every day, and swims around happily

13. How do the other fish behave:
-it plays with the other fish, eats regularly and swims normal and theres no signs of illness.

14. Post pics of the sick fish:


15. Do you have a filter on your tank, what kind, how big (gallons per hour)
-yes, tetra, 2-10

16. Do you provide extra aeration with an air pump and air stone/diffuser of some kind.
-no because the oxygen is provided from the filter waterfall
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Re: Fish Floating on its side
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2011, 11:03:30 AM »

Your tank is overcrowded.
You need to provide at least 10 gallons per fish.
Since you don't have the proper testing kit to test your tank water yourself, you will need to go to your local fish place and take a sample of your water and have it tested.
Please post the results for ammonis, nitrites, nitrates and pH here.
What kind of Tetra condtioner do you use?  Some tetra condtioner does contain a really good bio-bacteria in it. (Bio Spira)
What do you feed your fish?  Brand, and type of food.
You need an air pump with extra aeration going...a filter does not provide enough.  Especially the tetra 2-10.
When looking at filters, you need to look at gallons per hour and your tank needs a filter that will turn over at least 100 gallons per hour.
Also, with 2 fish in a 10 gallon tank, you might need to do more often water changes, and bigger changes too, at least 50%, so your fishes stay healthy.
As far as your fish lying on the top like that it could be just a simple fact of not enough dissolved oxygen in the tank, coyuld be swim bladder issues, a bacterial, internal infection.  You would need to treat with medicated food for about a week.
Or it could just be the quality of your water.  Please have your water tested asap!  Smiley

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Re: Fish Floating on its side
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2011, 12:09:09 PM »

Test your water, and no matter the parameters, I think you need to change about 70% of the water in one go now, and later test every week and change according to test results. 50% water changes if the nitrates are between 10-30ppm, 70% again if it's 40 or higher.
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Re: Fish Floating on its side
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2011, 03:58:42 PM »

ok thanks for all your help. We will be moving soon so when we do they will be moving to a 50 gallon tank so till then im stuck with a 10. Im planning on getting the water tested soon to. but i don't thing its an oxygen thing because the other fish doesn't do that. It acts perfectly normal.
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Re: Fish Floating on its side
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2011, 04:05:30 PM »

Whats recommended for goldfish is 20g for the first fish and 10g for every fish after that in the same tank, so you would need a 30g tank  for them to be healthy and grow.  Goldfish can be very messy as far as waste in the tank so the bigger tank the better and the more filtration the better also.  Along with what Minde and Nossie suggested since they are more experienced than myself. 

My goldfish were so very happy when I added an extra bubble wand along with one that was in there already and the large filter that flows into the tank.  They are so much more active with all those bubbles going.   Smiley

Edited:  You were typing while I was typing. lol
That's great that you can get a 50g for them, that would be lovely.  You do however need the little pump and an air bubbler,  they don't cost very much and you can move it to the 50g when you get that set up.  You will see them much more active with one I promise.
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Re: Fish Floating on its side
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2011, 10:15:42 PM »

I'm guessing a mix of bad water quality and bad diet. Please get your water tested asap, as said you can get this done at a pet shop often for free Smiley

Also what do you feed them??
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Re: Fish Floating on its side
« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2011, 04:52:53 AM »

Actually, a 20 gallon is perfect for two goldfish Smiley It's because of the measurements of the tank that the first "lonely" fish needs 20 gallons. If the tank is larger than that, you can easily and safely add one fish per 10 gallons of tank volume Smiley
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Re: Fish Floating on its side
« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2011, 09:45:10 AM »

Well you have more experience than myself as well.    Smiley  hehe

That is just what I had always seen recommended since goldfish produce so much waste.  I guess to reduce all the water changes you would be doing and to keep the water quality good.  But she says she is getting a 50g anyway so they will have plenty of room there which is wonderful for those babies.   Wink
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Re: Fish Floating on its side
« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2011, 10:31:32 AM »

I haven't seen anything else except that either Wink But I think I read it somewhere that someone is calculating the stocking levels like this...? It seems very reasonable to me at least Wink My tank's a tad overstocked though... I was very much into picking lots of interesting looking goldies... xD
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Re: Fish Floating on its side
« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2011, 01:20:29 PM »

I feed them twice a day with omega one fish flakes.
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Re: Fish Floating on its side
« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2011, 02:25:33 PM »

Egg bodied goldfish do better with sinking pellets rather than flakes.
Flakes tend to cause constipation problems.
Frozen peas thawed out and skin removed are good fiber source.
Also freeze dried shrimp is also good, high in fiber.
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Re: Fish Floating on its side
« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2011, 02:48:59 PM »

ok I will do that! Thanks for your help! Im going to go get some pellet food and im going to make them some peas to help with there digestion. If u have any more advice id be happy to hear it cause im still new to this whole fish thing. Ill try to post some pics later today of the fish.
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Re: Fish Floating on its side
« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2011, 03:13:08 PM »

My advise for you is to get a bigger filter and or an airstone with pump.
Goldfish cannot breath air at the surface and need moredissolved oxygen in their water...so does the beneficial bacteria in your tank and filter media.  More dissolved oxygen means a healthier environment for your fish and healthier fish and less problems with your fish and tank. Smiley
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Re: Fish Floating on its side
« Reply #19 on: January 29, 2011, 03:41:38 PM »

i few minutes ago i put in an airstone with pump so hopefully that will help.
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Re: Fish Floating on its side
« Reply #20 on: January 29, 2011, 03:45:45 PM »

Thank you so much and your fish thank you too! Cheesy
You will definately see a difference in a few days.
Your fish will become more active for one thing, with the extra oxygen in the water! Grin
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Re: Fish Floating on its side
« Reply #21 on: January 29, 2011, 04:19:18 PM »

and i just conned my parents into setting up our 50 gallon now so within the next few days that should be up and running!
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Re: Fish Floating on its side
« Reply #22 on: January 29, 2011, 05:02:07 PM »

If you want to, you could have a look at the sticky thread in the general goldfish discussion-part of the forum Smiley It's called "Guide to feeding veggies" and it contains lots of different types of foods you can give your fish Smiley
You can keep the flakes even if you'd use the pellet as a staple diet and feed them flakes only once in a while as a treat! Smiley
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Re: Fish Floating on its side
« Reply #23 on: January 29, 2011, 06:03:30 PM »

ok sounds good i will look at that. My fish has stopped floating ever since i put in the air pump earlier today. Im so happy cause i love my fish! Thank you all for your help!
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Re: Fish Floating on its side
« Reply #24 on: January 29, 2011, 06:15:26 PM »

You are very welcome! Smiley
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Re: Fish Floating on its side
« Reply #25 on: January 29, 2011, 11:18:24 PM »

Very glad to hear he is doing better and he will love the variety in his diet Smiley If you have anymore questions just ask away and make sure you look up the nitrogen cycle and buy some beneficial bacteria to cycle this 50 gallon tank. You will have to wait a few weeks before between setting it up and adding the fish, but they will appreciate it Smiley
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