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pants
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Ich Question
« on: July 09, 2010, 09:54:53 AM »

Hi guys i am relatively new to owning my babies. I now have three oranda goldfish. mongo my pearlscale died this morning Sad due to ich. I am really starting to freak out because i have fallen in love with each of my fish. The other three have small amounts of Ich on their tails and that is about it. MY question is can using aquarium salt alone kill this parasite?? Or is a heater necessary. Im almost afraid to adjust them too much more! For the most part they are still actively swimming around and eating, but they are all scratching. I put the salt in the tank two days ago, and it hasn't really seemed to help much.

P.s I have a 55 gallon tank. the three are my only fish in there, and the water levels check out just fine. The temperature is 75.

Oh yeah and any idea how long it would take for the ich to start going away without raising the temp??
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Re: Ich Question
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2010, 03:08:53 PM »

go to your fish by pimafix and medafix use both this products. test your water ich only happens if the fish are stressed mostly because of bad water

also raise temp to 78 if u have heater if not its ok( do not raise if u have no meds)  higher temp will speed up ich cycle and there is only 1 stage that the treatment will work

it can only be cured when it falls off your fish and starts to reproduce. if u see the ich on their tails it is inside your fish and the meds wont work

ich is easy to cure with the meds though
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Re: Ich Question
« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2010, 05:05:45 PM »

In pet shops they do sell all sort of medication.
If PIMAFIX and MELAFIX don't work, there is ICK RID or similar products available. Treat according to instructions.

creamkiller: it is MELAFIX, not medafix Wink
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Re: Ich Question
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2010, 11:21:09 PM »

Ok! thats what i will try!! thanks so much!
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Re: Ich Question
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2010, 12:32:46 AM »

ha ha i sant cpell or type
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Re: Ich Question
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2010, 01:07:52 AM »

I don't know much about ich but I know there is treatment out there for it and I didn't think water quality was what caused it by extreme changes in temperature. Is your tank near a window? Air conditioner? Or something similar? As though the temp may be good now it could have changed dramatically when you weren't around
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Re: Ich Question
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2010, 03:46:55 AM »

LOL, creamkiller, you're sooo funny  Cheesy
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Re: Ich Question
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2010, 03:42:38 PM »

I would treat with salt right away, for at least 14 days to make sure that it'll kill all the parasites. Do a water change before adding the salt, so you'll only have to do it once afterwards. It'll be easier to keep the dose constant that way. You should also buy some medicated food against internal parasites and feed your fish with this only, three times a day for the 14 days. Get started! Grin
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Re: Ich Question
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2010, 11:28:54 AM »

Well i went with some rid ich . My little guys went from a couple spots to covered in two days! hopefully that will work! I hate ich its frustrating!

My tank is in the middle of my wall no vents no windows.
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Re: Ich Question
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2010, 02:02:54 PM »

It's very common that there are more spots present when the treatment kicks in, nothing to worry about Smiley The spots should be going away gradually from now on... did you get any medicated fish food yet?
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Re: Ich Question
« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2010, 08:45:35 AM »

whats so funny just because i get my mords wixed  hahaha  Tongue
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Re: Ich Question
« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2010, 04:26:25 PM »

ROFLMAO , creamkiller  Cheesy  Tongue love your humor
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Re: Ich Question
« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2010, 01:21:27 AM »

NO!! I didnt even know that i could get medicated fish food!! But my little guys seem to be feeling much much better!! They are swimming around and eating great!! (knock on wood)!!!
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Re: Ich Question
« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2010, 04:47:45 AM »

OH YES, this is what I like to hear. Happy healthy fishies  Cheesy
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Re: Ich Question
« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2010, 03:50:35 PM »

That's wonderful Smiley Are the dots gone? Smiley
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Re: Ich Question
« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2010, 04:31:56 PM »

We cannot get medicated food here in Australia. It is not allowed to be sold. We only get those medications to be added in the tank.
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Re: Ich Question
« Reply #16 on: July 14, 2010, 02:39:56 AM »

Hmm... here I've only seen the kind against internal parasites or worms. But I guess when the time comes, that will be just what I need Cheesy I doubt any of my fish would get gravely infected inside, but if they do, I'll order a pack of some über-medicated food faster than fast o_o
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Re: Ich Question
« Reply #17 on: July 14, 2010, 03:23:53 AM »

Same here, just keep fingers crossed with our love and care for them it won't happen.... but one never knows.... Cry
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Re: Ich Question
« Reply #18 on: July 14, 2010, 02:34:00 PM »

Well....Dillon---only has one left on him. Ruby has alot more than one...but less that she had yesterday, and smith is still covered. Sad BUT they are still acting happy! LOL. The meds seem to be working!

I will tell you this, i have learned my lesson, and will never buy fish from petco or petsmart again without having a separate holding tank! I just get too attached too fast!

Oh yeah and can I ask you guys, dillon is gold with black fins, but as of two days ago he started getting black patches on each side of his body. I read online that it could be ammonia poisoning, but i dont understand how that is possible beings that my ammonia tests are coming out perfect...is he just changing color?? or could it be another infection??
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Re: Ich Question
« Reply #19 on: July 14, 2010, 03:23:10 PM »

It could be two things:

1. He's simply changing color, but it doesn't happen often that a fish turns black actually...

2. He's healing from wounds/burns on his skin. If it'd be wounds, it should be some small patches only, but if it's a larger area, he's most likely healing from burns caused by water quality problems. So for safety, you should test the all the parameters in your tank, and be alert! If you see any raised scales on his body, you may need to start treating against a bacterial infection. But since you're treating them all right now, I'm sure they'll all be fine Smiley
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Re: Ich Question
« Reply #20 on: July 14, 2010, 05:05:27 PM »

I agree with Nossie on this. Healing wounds/burns often show as small black spots. Keep an eye on this very closely, also on the other fish. If they show the same thing to happen it hardly would be change of colour, then it is healing.

What kind of test do you use? Are they paperstrips? If yes, they are known not to be accurate.
But you can trust the results if testing with solutions (API MasterTestKit for Freshwater Aquariums).

Keep us updated please
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Re: Ich Question
« Reply #21 on: July 15, 2010, 02:36:23 AM »

AHH great!! LOL..something new to stress about!  Wink...I will keep a close eye on all  and let ya know!!

And yes i am using the strips...but looks like ill be getting a solution set!!!
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Re: Ich Question
« Reply #22 on: July 15, 2010, 04:35:08 AM »

Well, as inaccurate as strips are, they are better than nothing d: But yea, it'd be just great if you'd be able to find some nice test kit for yourself! Grin You'll need it Smiley It's great to test the water anytime your fish are acting weird, because this helps to rule out the simpler issues related to water quality problems Smiley
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Re: Ich Question
« Reply #23 on: July 16, 2010, 10:27:02 AM »

yeah i dont know what going on now...Ruby died last night, and now Dillion is not eating. This is bull!!!
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Re: Ich Question
« Reply #24 on: July 16, 2010, 07:59:16 PM »

Sorry for your loss, this is sad news  Cry

Did you get the solutions yet? I'd test asap for all parameters: Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrate and pH.
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