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cheri_alexander
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Re: 1 oranda in 10 gal tank currently CYCLING
« Reply #90 on: November 21, 2011, 04:57:25 PM »

I e-mailed them with tons of questions. Yes I can reserve her (and I found two others) but only for a few weeks so I'm still waiting. They know the gender and hatch-date of each fish and guarantee live-arrival! I think I found my new supplier.
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« Reply #91 on: November 21, 2011, 07:23:59 PM »

AWESOME   Grin maybe one day when I know what im doing a lot better I'll get some from there Smiley))
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Re: 1 oranda in 10 gal tank currently CYCLING
« Reply #92 on: November 25, 2011, 04:50:16 PM »

So I found this charming eyeless fantail today.... 
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Skwishee
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Re: 1 oranda in 10 gal tank currently CYCLING
« Reply #93 on: November 25, 2011, 05:19:06 PM »

Eyeless fantail? So it's blind?
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Re: 1 oranda in 10 gal tank currently CYCLING
« Reply #94 on: November 27, 2011, 04:35:17 PM »

If it doesn't have eyes, that means that something has plucked them out, it sometimes happens that goldfish lose an eye due to trauma. Either from bullying or from shipping. The fish might be in bad physical shape due to the stress and injuries, it wouldn't be a very good idea to get such a fish since it might not live for very long.

One of my baby pearl scales lost his eye soon before it he died Sad It looked so terrible and it just broke my heart really, so I understand the feeling of wanting to take care of the little soul Sad
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laurencasualty
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Re: 1 oranda in 10 gal tank currently CYCLING
« Reply #95 on: November 28, 2011, 04:24:01 PM »

I'm assuming he was bullied, it made me sad. He was in the quarantine tank with orandas with fin rot and anchor worm and they kept pecking at his eye holes Sad
Poor baby pearlie Sad that makes me sad too, this thread is getting too sad :/
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« Reply #96 on: November 29, 2011, 05:33:23 AM »

Oh, that's terrible! I can't even believe how they have fish in that shape (anchor worm and fin rot) up for sale Undecided
It's disgusting what they think they can get away with Angry

On a brighter note, has your tank finished cycling yet? Smiley
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« Reply #97 on: November 29, 2011, 07:32:36 AM »

Ah when you first said blind, I thought you might have meant the fish who have button eyes, when the eye is completely black, like in Shubunkins.

But that's even worse! Poor fishy =(

How about a picture of a happy fish to brighten things up  Cheesy Panda Moor!!!
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« Reply #98 on: November 30, 2011, 06:38:07 PM »

SQUEEEEEE<333333333333  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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fyi the quarantine fish weren't actually for sale, they were "under examination" -.-
it was sad the number that had finrot, there were even a few in with all the rest of the fish (there was an adorable pearlie with, like, half the top of his/her dorsal fin missing, beautiful little baby, made my heart hurt :/ )
oh and i'm actually not sure, i need to get more test strips  Tongue or should i splurge for a better kit lol although idk if the petstore has them and i don't know where any lfs's are here haha
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Re: 1 oranda in 10 gal tank currently CYCLING
« Reply #99 on: December 01, 2011, 03:24:28 AM »

Meh, tet strips are good enough as a general idea at least Smiley In case you'd find your fish sick or something, you might need more accurate results but otherwise it's fine to save some money! Grin

I have never tried using test strips, so I don't honestly know if they're worse or not. When I run out of these liquid tests, I should try test strips Cheesy
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Re: 1 oranda in 10 gal tank currently CYCLING
« Reply #100 on: December 01, 2011, 05:07:27 AM »

Hmmm my LFS uses test strips, they tested my water for me for free when I went in asking questions because I was worried about Lucky. Why do people say test strips are un-reliable anyway? It's something I hear a lot....

Lauren I would say, get a liquid one if you can, only because they last longer than strips do, so it's more economical to buy one liquid set than buy loads of strips. In my LFS they had strips for Ammonia 10 and strips for Nitrate and Nitrite that were also 10, so it would be 20 for both, but these packets alone would only cover 50 tests or so. So it was better for me to buy the liquid test kit for 30 that covers everything and claims it can do over 800 tests. So here in the UK at least you're really not saving money that much when you buy strips!
Plus it's kinda fun mixing things in test tubes, I feel like a scientist Cheesy

This is the one I use, I found it on Amazon for you (Link is not visible to guests. Please register to view.)

The instructions are really clear, so a clever lady like you will understand it no problem, the booklet also recommends products to try if one of your water parameters are too high and not going down.
The set gives you everything you need to check the PH, Ammonia, Nitrite and Nitrates Smiley
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« Reply #101 on: December 01, 2011, 05:51:13 AM »

I agree on that! I've always used liquid tests, and I've still not ran out of them Wink I tested pretty religiously while I was cycling the 83 gal too!
Most people sort of stick to the fact that test strips are "BAD" because they read it in a book Grin I saw it in a book and thought of it as truth, but nowadays I'm not very picky about the results of this and that, because I think it's easier to just know roughly whether it's acceptable or not. I don't need to know that the nitrates are now 20,5 ppm, I'd be happy to just think of it as 20-25ppm Grin

Thinking that I might get test strips for the parameters I don't use much, like ammonia or nitrite. I usually just check the pH or nitrate if something's off.
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Re: 1 oranda in 10 gal tank currently CYCLING
« Reply #102 on: December 01, 2011, 06:18:55 AM »

Tetra do a 6-in-1 test strip pack:25 strips, tests for:NO3-,NO2-,GH,kH,pH,Cl2
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Re: 1 oranda in 10 gal tank currently CYCLING
« Reply #103 on: December 01, 2011, 06:26:16 AM »

I've seen them in the shops here Smiley
Have you used them?
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« Reply #104 on: December 01, 2011, 06:39:50 AM »

Hmm I usually just check my water once every few weeks just to make sure it's okay or if Lucky's acting strange.
So I still think the liquid one's are best, otherwise you're paying 10 for only 25 tests (so 30 worth would only give you 75 tests).

The only test strip I've considered getting is the ammonia one, because I find it hard to tell what colour the liquid one is sometimes  Cheesy

But again these two products show what I mean, both test for ammonia;
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This one is a liquid test at 8.80 and the kit yields up to 50 tests.

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This one is a strip test at 8.98 and only gives you 25 tests.

So practically the same price, but one will give you twice as much!

I suppose at the end of the day it depends on preference really Smiley I suppose it wouldn't hurt to have a liquid test but then some strips just in case you run out or are un sure on the colours.
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Re: 1 oranda in 10 gal tank currently CYCLING
« Reply #105 on: December 01, 2011, 09:57:20 AM »

i use API mini master test kit strips; it does ammonia, nitrite, nitate, pH, hardness, and alkalinity. they're like 20 something dollars for 5 or 6 tests.
skwishee that liquid kit looks pretty cool, and i imagine i would enjoy feeling like a scientist too xP
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« Reply #106 on: December 01, 2011, 10:40:55 AM »

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I've seen them in the shops here Smiley
Have you used them?

Yes..They are easy to use...I only test if I think there's a problem as I find that using"Easy balance" keeps the tank nice and stable.

I've looked at the liquids, but the thought of spending nearly 40 made me blanch.


 
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« Reply #107 on: December 01, 2011, 02:36:15 PM »

40? What tests were you looking at Scrivens Shocked

I found the one I use really cheap on Amazon (Link is not visible to guests. Please register to view.)

But I'm tempted to pick up some ammonia strips, it's always handy to have a second opinion in a way  Cheesy

Also what's 'easy balance'? Is that like beneficial bacteria or something?
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« Reply #108 on: December 01, 2011, 02:40:19 PM »

I do that too now that the tank is cycled, so I figure I won't actually need any particularly amazing test equipment, to be honest.
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« Reply #109 on: December 01, 2011, 03:37:46 PM »

Easy balance is a a pH & KH buffer/stabilizer it stops spikes..it also reduces nitrates & phosphates.....just add once a week

In effect it is a maintenance solution for all your water parameters, meaning fewer water changes


you can make your own pH indicator solution...but I'll save that for another post

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« Reply #110 on: December 02, 2011, 05:36:41 AM »

What's the manufacturer of Easy balance? I might have seen it somewhere around Grin
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« Reply #111 on: December 02, 2011, 05:59:42 AM »

Amazon says this about Easy Balance;

"-Replicates the action of a water change, and adds additional elements not present on tap water
-Helps control algae.
-Keeps aquarium water fresh for up to 6 months
-Stabilizes PH & KH & reduces Phosphate
-For healthy fish & plants in all tropical & coldwater aquaria"

You could go for 6 months without a water change?! I find that hard to believe XD
Scrivens how often do you do water changes when using the product?
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« Reply #112 on: December 02, 2011, 07:54:45 AM »

I just do a half weekly gravel/glass clean...to take out excess waste

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« Reply #113 on: December 02, 2011, 01:44:07 PM »

Hm, I think I am keeping the water in pretty good shape simply by changing the water Smiley I need such a load of water conditioners already for that tank that it might be an unnecessary extra thing to get Smiley
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« Reply #114 on: December 05, 2011, 07:13:07 PM »

Yeah as I mentioned once before, I don't trust something that says it's just as good as a 'water change' XD
Adding a product and the tank will be okay for 6 months? Obviously these people have never kept goldfish! Could you imagine the amount of poo and un - eaten food in the gravel after 6 months?!

Scrivens your plan of attack makes sense, I imagine with doing gravel cleaning that frequent, you end up doing small partial water change anyway!
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« Reply #115 on: December 06, 2011, 03:31:30 AM »

It is most useful in stopping ammonia spikes when you might be on holiday or the tank is cycling or you are using new filter...that sort of thing......IF you have a small(ish) tank and are /or over-stocked, it will help prevent ammonia build up etc


I started using it after a nasty ammonia spike burnt one of my fishes
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« Reply #116 on: December 06, 2011, 05:53:55 AM »

I think it would be just fine. Just because it says on the bottle that it would be as good as a water change, it doesn't mean you'd have to use it as a substitute for one.
Notice how many tropical fish keepers are changing just a small, small amount of water at a time? In that case I'm pretty sure this product would be ideal, and as scrivens says, it would probably be helpful while you're out of the house too Smiley
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« Reply #117 on: December 06, 2011, 03:02:56 PM »

hmm i might possibly look into that lol
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