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Clab
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Introduction
« on: June 19, 2010, 07:38:08 AM »

Hey all fish lovers, i will with this post introduce myself.

My name is Claus, lives in Denmark - and got interestet in fish when i got a house with a pond.
At first i didnt think there was any fish in it, but there was over 30 goldfish in there.
I startet to google around to find out, what i could do to clear up the water.
Much research and workin made it a working pond.
During the time i worked with the pond, i replaced all the goldfish with Koi, and soon there was handfeeding  Grin
When i sold the house, the pond was no longer an option, so i got an aquarium, at fist with small Koi, but the grow much to fast, so someone with a pond, got some new Koi.
Then i tried Shubunkin - that works much better, and one goldfish (the goldfish was born in my pond)
So today i enjoy my shubunkin and the one goldfish, and the feed of my hand - so when i clean the inside of the tank, they are in the way - thinkin that my hand is food or something Cheesy

The website here looks good, and there is a lot of info and inspiration.

There is a picture story, about the pond on (Link is not visible to guests. Please register to view.)
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Re: Introduction
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2010, 09:10:39 AM »

Welcome! Cheesy I'm from Finland myself! If you wanna I could write in Swedish to ya c:

Anyway, awesome tanks and pond! O_O How big are these things? They're so beautiful! Cheesy
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Re: Introduction
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2010, 09:15:43 AM »

Hey, no english is fine  Wink

The Koi i had in the pond was between 15 and 35 cm. and i had about 4000 Liters in there.

My subinkin/goldfish is between 10 and 15 cm, and the tank is 425 liters

i miss my pond, but get big pleasure from my aquarium.
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« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2010, 09:22:10 AM »

Wow! Smiley That sounds great!

I just got myself a 317 liter tank Wink I'll be setting it up in my new apartment Smiley I've got mainly fancy goldfish like, orandas, pom pom, telescope and a few fantails, there should be some pics in this forum with them Smiley
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Re: Introduction
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2010, 09:49:46 AM »

Claus,
Your fish and aquarium are absoluely beautiful! Smiley
Your pond and Koi were very nice too!  If I had a bigger pond maybe I would have a couple of Koi.
I think maybe my pond is too small, it is 250 gallons.  I bought 4 koi at one time but they keep doing somersaults in the air and evenually commited suicide. Roll Eyes
Welcome to our forum.  It sounds like you have lots of experience and knowledge to share with us! Smiley
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Re: Introduction
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2010, 10:45:44 AM »

yes 1 Koi needs 264 gallons, and then 132 pr Koi thereafter.

Mine was big enough for 7 Koi, but i ran the water throug the filter 1½ time pr. hour, so my levels where not to high.

Filtering and air are most importent when dealing with Koi, they are not so strong as goldfish.
They demand clean water..

And the more water you have, the less sensitive is the pond in changes in temperature.
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Re: Introduction
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2010, 10:52:44 AM »

I absolutely love your fish!!!!! they are so beautiful, I wish I had a pond, but I wouldnt know where to start. It doesnt help that I saw the prettiest fish in the pet store, he was huge!!! I wanted to take him home but sadly, no room. XD
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« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2010, 12:42:25 PM »

Now I know what went wrong!  My pond was too small and the fish thought the grass was greener on the other side! Roll Eyes  Oh brother guess I won't get koi again!  Well my goldfish like my pond.  Some are over 11 years old now. Smiley
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Re: Introduction
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2010, 03:13:50 PM »

I really want a pond...
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Re: Introduction
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2010, 03:19:16 PM »

Ah, one question! What kind of plants are those? Are the fish leaving them alone in the tank?

I'm on the look for some new, interesting plants for my goldfish tank Smiley
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Re: Introduction
« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2010, 04:38:42 PM »

Hi Claus, welcome to this forum.

You did a fantastic job setting up the pond and later the Aquarium. Your fish are absolutely beautiful, healthy and happy.
I love the set up of your tank so very much, and the variety of fish in therejust looks gorgeous.

My husband and I are setting up a new tank ( 150l ). We do have 2 comets, now about 10-12 cm long. We think about adding 2 more into the new tank when all is ready. Do you agree they should be much the same size than ours and fast swimmers as well? Any ideas?

Looking forward to learning from you too, nice to have you on board  Wink
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« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2010, 05:17:30 PM »

Hey again. and thanks all.

First about plants - i dont know the names, i have chosen them for background plants and foreground plants - and not too much, due to the fact that goldfish and Koi need space to swim, and they dosnt need hiding places as many small tropical tank fish, they are seeking company for safety, and you only need one brave fish, then the others will follow him/her.
To have a happy crowd, have 8-12 fish.

They can nibble at Some plants - its easy to spot, and futhermore its healthy for them, so observe wich one they eat and wich they dont, and bye many of those they dont eat, and maybe just one for them to nibble in - it can be replaced after 4 to 6 weeks.

In my tank, its the bright green plants in the foreground that they like.

New fish.
When i startet with a tank, it was a small one - just to see what i could do, and if i wanted a tank, i knew that if i was to get it right, it had to be bigger - the more water, the bigger fish.
At first it was Koi - but the grow very fast - in a pond they only grow in the summer (mostly) when temp. is high enough for them to eat protein food, but in the tank its summer all year, so they fast became to big.
Shubunkin max size is about 40 cm - Koi max size about 100cm, so that woundt work.

The closest thing to Koi i coould see was shubunkin - fast swimmer, many colors, handfeeding etc.

So when you plan your tank its about what you want to look at - slow swimming - maybe majestic swimming, or behavior like small puppies at feeding time.
I like the fast swimmers - they are relativ fast, and they really have there own personality - as did my Koi's some where brave, some where not so brave, some attacked the food, some liked it slow - some will come when you put a finger on the tank, some dont care.

And as always !  When bying fish.  quarentine the fish in another tank for a month, with water from your normal tank, then if it dosnt get sick, then introduce them to your darlings.
Some dealers have strict quarentine facilities when they bye fish, but with my Koi i wouldnt gamble, they cost a lot more then my shubunkin.
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Re: Introduction
« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2010, 05:50:16 PM »

YAY! I welcome you to the forum with open arms. Why? BEcause you seem to have a brain between your ears and know to TEST THE **** WATER..7



sorry.. [/rant]
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Re: Introduction
« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2010, 06:00:52 PM »

He - thanks  Grin

Many stores has a test kit - that tests for Nitrate and PH value, and that is the most importent to test for, and its really easy - just follow the description in the package.

Amonium builds up in the tank, but change half the water 2 or 3 times a year, does it for me.

After having fish for a long time, and at first testing the water - i now can see on the fish if anything is wrong, mostly if the fins arent jerking with joy, then there is a problem.
Its just like having kids, you know when something is wrong  Grin
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Re: Introduction
« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2010, 06:20:23 PM »

2 or 3 times a year? Iiiiiiiinteresting.... why not more?

not that I know anything, just curious
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« Reply #15 on: June 19, 2010, 06:21:55 PM »

Amonium builds up in the tank, but change half the water 2 or 3 times a year, does it for me.


Do you ever do smaller water changes more frequently?  I have to do weekly water changes to keep the nitrate levels around 40 ppm.
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Re: Introduction
« Reply #16 on: June 19, 2010, 06:38:00 PM »

I dont change water for nitrate, thats taken care of by my plants. Plants absorbs Nitrate.

Nitrite is another matter, thats best below 0,01 mg/liter
Nittrate is best under 20mg/liter and must not exceed 50mg/liter

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Re: Introduction
« Reply #17 on: June 19, 2010, 08:07:35 PM »

As I understood now, the best thing would be to buy 1 fish at the time and keep it for 1 week in Humpsis and Hepsis old tank, then add it to their new home.

I think 4 comets are ok for 150 litres but no more, it would be over stocked I think.
Our two babies now do struggle in their old tank, my fish-mummy-heart aches
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Re: Introduction
« Reply #18 on: June 20, 2010, 04:07:57 AM »

Hanna: You could add your current fish to the new tank when it's cycled, and then you can add salt + melafix (salt for parasites) into the old tank + the new fish Smiley Keep them there for at least 3 weeks and watch the fish AND the water quality closely. If there are no signs of disease by the third week, just put them in with Hump and Hep c: One week isn't enough for disease to break out, so... just to be sure that you won't introduce problems to your tank.
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« Reply #19 on: June 20, 2010, 04:19:58 AM »

Thats good advise.

Salt is good for parasites, but remember - if you have sat in your new tank - all the time, then you cant treat the fish if they get whitespots.

150 Liters - if my filter could cope with it, i would have about 5 fish in there, and 1 or 2 clams - they eat the nitrate from the filter, and a clam can filter 50-300 liter pr. hour.

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Re: Introduction
« Reply #20 on: June 20, 2010, 04:32:57 AM »

The dose of salt is :
one Tablespoon of Aquarium Salt per five gallons of aquarium water. So, for example, a 10-gallon aquarium gets 2 Tablespoons of Aquarium Salt. Do not repeat the salt and do not use iodized table salt. Aquarium Salt is available in many stores that sell pet fish.

I have been used seasalt / naturel salt witout iodize - thats available in your supermarket.
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« Reply #21 on: June 20, 2010, 05:22:43 AM »

I do have aquarium salt, and OK will leave the new fishes in Humpsis and Hepsis old tank for 3 weeks, I understand that parasites etc they DO have different incubation times, some more than 1 week. No worries wanna do the best possible for our babies
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Re: Introduction
« Reply #22 on: June 20, 2010, 12:00:45 PM »

What nice fishies!  I wish we had a pond.  Whenever I go by the koi display at our local pet store, I say to the fish who are hiding, "Are you shy or just being "koi"?"  My husband always rolls his eyes, but I can tell your carp are not shy in the slightest.  It's also good to see another shubunkin fan.  Mine don't have those long tails, though.  Is that from keeping them in warm water?
Oh, and let me know if my American English is confusing.  We have a lot of regional slang, and I know it confuses some Europeans.
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« Reply #23 on: June 20, 2010, 12:24:09 PM »

Lol Nicole, really? I know at times I can be confusing but thats because I neglect my use of grammar... hahahhaa

Anyway I really wish I had a pond because it would just look so so nice with plants and surrounded by likea.. stone walkway or something XD ^^
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« Reply #24 on: June 20, 2010, 12:30:53 PM »

Hey, no your "english" is fine

I cant explain why yours havent long tails, maybe they arent so big yet ?  mine is about 10 to 15 cm, and the goldfish 20 cm. (i just call it a goldfish  Grin)

i had them for 2 years, so they are a little over 2 years old.

The temp is room temperature - from 20 to 24 celcius
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« Reply #25 on: June 20, 2010, 12:37:03 PM »

Thats what I have my tank at. I dunno why, maybe because I never have my window open at all, so it gets warm and gross in my room. Ah well. Im going hoe today! back to that little tank for a while.
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« Reply #26 on: June 20, 2010, 12:42:23 PM »

Nicole: There are different kinds of Shubunkins, the London shubunkin has shorter fins that the Bristol Shubunkin, which has a slightly B-shaped tail with round caudal lobes, for example. But these here on the pic seem to be American Shubunkins, since they have long, forked tails Smiley
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« Reply #27 on: June 20, 2010, 12:51:50 PM »

ohh thats why - then we leaned something today, thanks. Wink
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« Reply #28 on: June 20, 2010, 01:20:19 PM »

Anytime! Grin

By the way, what food are you feeding your fish? Smiley
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« Reply #29 on: June 20, 2010, 01:29:40 PM »

the label says  Aqua Nautica granulate   -  protein food.

protein 25%
fat  4,5%
fibers 4%
ash 8%

vitamin A, D3, E

does that help.
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