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Systonic
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Is it possible...
« on: May 25, 2010, 10:20:09 PM »

to keep an aquarium outside?  Currently I have two goldfish (one possible silver/black lionhead, one comet) in an aquarium outside with a crawfish.  The reason that I keep the aquarium outside is a rather long story.  The water goes green anywhere from one to two weeks after I change it, and I go through filters relatively fast as well.  Other than extra work for me, it is still possible to keep the aquarium outside, correct?
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Re: Is it possible...
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2010, 11:35:12 PM »

It sure is, my pop has a great one outside. But it is under shelter and never in direct sunlight.
Is yours in direct sunlight? Because that will be the reason why there is so much green stuff growing. I think you can get little blocks of things that stop algae going out of control though. Maybe have a look at your local pet shop.
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Systonic
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« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2010, 11:43:58 PM »

Yep, it is in direct sunlight for at least a few hours a day.  If I add some plants on my next water change, would that cut down on the algae growth/bloom? 
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« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2010, 03:40:38 AM »

My bad, originally I thought that the goldfish that I had was a lionhead, but now after looking at him more, I feel that it is more than likely an oranda.  I bought it originally at a japanese petstore where it was labeled kingyo (goldfish).  It has a dorsal fin, which rules out the lionhead, and looks similar to the panda oranda on the oranda picture link.  The comet was in a bucket of comets (feeder fish).  The crawfish is still a crawfish (zarigani).
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Re: Is it possible...
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2010, 03:41:32 AM »

The plants would help a bit, yes (: But I would strongly recommend covering the tank with something instead! Goldfish prefer a bit colder water, so being in the sun for that long isn't very good.
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« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2010, 03:46:18 AM »

Well, even though it is the "summer" here, I have to keep a heater in the water to keep the water temperature 72~ degrees.  I keeps dropping to the 40s or 50s overnight, and our High temperature during the day for the last month has been 78 degrees.  I would love to move the aquarium, or build a shelter, but due to power needs of the aquarium, and space requirement for the shelter, I have to leave it as is for now.  I do plan on getting an aquarium for inside the house, but currently the wife is against it.
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« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2010, 09:53:11 PM »

Goldfish are very adaptable to great temperture flucuations and can withstand temperatures between 0 and 90 degrees F.  The biggest problem with water when it is warmer for goldfish is that there is less oxygen available then with colder water.  Goldfish use more oxygen in warmer water due to their metabolism being higher and them eating more and so of course producing more waste.  With their metabolism being higher they are also more active so they will use more oxygen.  Extra aeration is important!  You might want to have an air pump going and a few air stones placed in the tank.
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Re: Is it possible...
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2010, 04:43:10 AM »

If you do have your aquarium standing outside, is it on the back porch? You may be able to DIY a lovely sun screen maybe from wood, like fence wood, and protect your aquarium against direct sunlight. You may be able to build that screen so the aquarium is in 70% shade and 30% sunlight, also you could decorate the sun screen with nice hanging pots for flowers / plants / kitchen-herbs. And sure you won't have the algae problem anymore. Also temps wouldn't fluctuate too much like a yoyo up and down.

Sure your wife would be amazed. You could create a nice retreat for the whole family with a relaxing tank and colourful happy fish to look at, enjoying coffe, cake, or a BBQ with a stubbie or a nice glass of red wine.
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« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2010, 09:34:52 AM »

Wow, Hanna you have some wonderful ideas! Smiley
Yeah like build a gazebo above the aquarium!!  I LOVE that idea!  You could just build it out of lattice material.

"Yoo Hoo Hubby, I have some more yard work projects for us to do..." LOL! Wink
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« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2010, 04:57:32 PM »

Hahahahaha Mindemae, you are so sweet, lol

We do have a show here on TV every friday night, it is called "Better Homes and Gardens" I love watching it, They also have their website on the net.  ...whish to win a lottery to buy our own home  Wink ...

Well, a gazebo is a brilliant idea too.
I first was thinking of kinda screening the porch in, (as  Systonic seems to live in a quite cooler climate), like creating an outdoor summer living area.


LOL, hope your hubby will not blame me, LOL  Grin   Cheesy
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« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2010, 07:29:03 PM »

Hahahaha! Yeah, I'm gonna tell him it was all Hanna's idea!!!
Not to worry he likes projects! Roll Eyes  It keeps him out of trouble! Grin
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« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2010, 08:00:28 PM »

I ended up going to the local pet store with my family and we picked out a decent size tank, and set it up inside. It is 22~ Gallons and according to the paper that came with the tank, it is good for 10~ goldfish.  I do plan on getting 1 more goldfish though, a black ranchu, but thats it.  Currently my tank has 1 Comet (feeder fish Wink 1 Crawfish, 1 Pleco, 1 unknown goldfish.  The unknown goldfish looks like a lionhead, but he has a dorsal fin, and a butterfly tail.  I will take a picture, and post it on the site.  I thought it was an oranda, but when I went back to the store, I saw that they had oranda in a differant tank.  This goldfish was in a tank marked seibengyo.
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Re: Is it possible...
« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2010, 03:12:22 AM »

The paper that came with the tank would bring you and your fish loads of trouble, at most you can keep one or two fish in that tank.
The common rule for calculating stocking levels in a GOLDFISH tank, are as follows: 20 gallon minimum for one fish, +10 gallons for each additional fish.

Btw, it is an Oranda that you have, no matter where they kept it in the pet store, that's why it's pretty good to know something about goldfish varieties (and of course, other fish too) to make sure that you get the one you want. But does it have any special color? I've read a lot about the Japanese names for goldfish and they use to name them differently just for the color. A calico Oranda in Japan is called Azuma Nishiki, for instance.
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« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2010, 10:32:32 AM »

Is there any way you can post a picture of your fish on here?  Then the good people on this forum could tell you for sure what he is. Smiley
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