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Re: Is this normal for a goldfish?
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2010, 07:50:37 PM » |
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Your local petstore will have everything you'll need to keep happy and healthy fish. I recommend the API MasterTestKit for Freshwater fish. It is not "cheap" but you'll get the best value out of it You will need to test for the following: Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrate and pH.
But there is sth else: Your tank is OVERSTOCKED. ...as you know... so why did you buy them now in the first place knowing this? According to their behavoiur they feel stressed, uncomfortable and unhappy Goldfish grow fairly quick, rule of thumb is 10 gallons per goldfish... and you DO have 2 guppies in there as well, if they are male and female, they will have babies very soon. They are livebearers!
Another mistake: DO NOT FEED PLENTY, P L E A S E only feed as much as they eat in 1-2 minutes and only twice a day. Goldfish are messy fish, they would eat the whole day if you give them food the whole day. They produce lots of waste. So overfeeding - sorry, but you've done that - will cause your fish to be constipated, to feel stressed and it will be prone to have deseases. As they produce LOTs of waste they pollute the water very quickly and swim in their own sewerage. You MUST provide best filtration and aeration.
Another thing to mention: Goldfish are coldwater fish, Guppies are tropicals. They also do have different dietary requirements. Sure you've seen the different foods for different species.
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Re: Is this normal for a goldfish?
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2010, 08:45:13 PM » |
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I recently bought two baby goldfish and am housing them in a ten gallon aquarium ( with my two baby guppies that i had nowhere else to put). Everyone seems to be getting along great the water is clear and good temp and all the basic stuff is right. But my goldfish hide in there log ALL the time and when i approach the tank to feed them if they are out they swim away as fast as they can. Also i feed them plenty to keep them happy and not bloated but they are always scavenging and begging like they aren't eating.
also my tank is not planted but if that will help them i will get them plants and they only swim on the bottom but as far as i can tell are still very active.
But my one little one has eaten fins( he had them when i bought him) is there anything that will help them heal or will it affect him? he seems to be fine
PS. I know ten gallons is not enough for them but i already bought them and I will release them into a pond when they are older if need be. But my dorm will only allow up to ten gallons
Hi Ellirianna, well, sure you admit that according to your first post nobody would be able to understand that you feed little and that you found it out after you got them, and it didn't seem that the stuff or facts I fed you you already know. No reason to be upset, as you asked for advice which I gave you according to the content of your first post...... And yes, I mentioned too about the behavoiur...they don't feel well in there. If they would they would come to the front and wiggle and "dance" for you. Anyway... glad to hear you'll rehome then soon. Good luck with your fishies.
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Re: Is this normal for a goldfish?
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2010, 04:56:18 AM » |
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First of all, Guppies HAVE similar water requirements as goldfish do. Both want alkaline water, and guppies want their water in a temp between 21-25 degrees Celsius, which is more or less the ideal temp for goldfish as well. THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE GOLDFISH WILL EAT THE GUPPIES AS THEY GROW. But for now, it's perfectly fine  I want you to also know that goldfish have no stomach, and especially while they grow, you need to feed them at least 3 times a day. So start feeding them more often but a smaller amount of food, and you should see them being much happier and healthier  Make sure to get yourself a good quality staple pellet for your goldies, and feed your guppies with tropical fish flakes  You could get some freeze-dried tubifex as well, they're usually sold in cubes, so take some small pieces of these and soak them awhile before you feed them to your fish  This will add the extra protein your fish need while growing. About the torn fins on your fish, I would dose some melafix in the tank, this is a natural remedy that will help your fish recover on its own  I think you could invest in some plants, because your fish are obviously a bit stressed, so they would probably want somewhere to hide. Java Fern are wonderful plants for this reason! The goldfish don't like how they taste, so they won't be eaten, and these plants have big, thick leaves that grow real densely, and this would be perfect to keep your fish safe  That's all I wanted to share for now, ask if there's anything you need to know 
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Re: Is this normal for a goldfish?
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2010, 03:40:33 AM » |
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Ellirianna, you shouldn't worry that they are underfed, all our little buggers wanna munch all the time, and they beg all the time. Sure they did not munch on each other bar playing  Your little babies are very cute and adorable.  Well, get your other tank up and running as soon as you can. They really are very small so for now they should be fine for a little while. Also if you can get them a real plant they can munch on it. I may be wrong, but the one I see in your pics is a fake one? But sth else interesting I learned 2 days ago when my hubby and me discovered a BEAUTIFUL aquatic pet shop: I looked around and seen this "Garlic Guard". I asked what this is for and the lady in there (very knowledgeable!) said that she soaks the food in it and gives the whole lot to the fishies. It strengthens their immune system. And geez - I bought it - our fishies they just hopped into it... I couldn't believe my eyes. So maybe this will help your fishies too for their immune system. What do you think?
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Re: Is this normal for a goldfish?
« Reply #16 on: July 19, 2010, 10:14:15 AM » |
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My parents have nothing to do with me. I havent seen my dad in months and i see my mom about every month since she kicked me out and she lives in a tiny apartment with my three sisters and hates animals. I really have no options  Trust me I'm doing all I can. My dad is great with fish but there is no way to get ahold of him and I think he disowned me like the rest of the family. I'm living with a friend now and they will let me store the forty here but not set it up. I've thought of everything And yes I want to do a betta sorority in the ten gallon but I dont have the money for all the plants and the new heater and everything right now since goldfish are coldwater I went with them. Could you help me with keeping them happy for a while in the ten gallon? This is my only option and I wanna see the little ones happy. I mean look at them how could you not love them?  <3 rehoming is an option but so many people think of goldfish as feeders, I dont wanna risk that for my babies
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Re: Is this normal for a goldfish?
« Reply #17 on: July 19, 2010, 01:28:11 PM » |
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I'm so sorry to hear that  But yes, there are ways to keep your fish in pretty good condition even though they're in a small space  First of all, you need to be keen on the water quality, and test it on a weekly basis. You also have to remember the weekly water changes! About 25-30 percent depending on the nitrates  And second, you have a good filter, right? You should save a bucket of tank water (from the water change) and rinse the filter media there and make sure to remove all algae and debris. Make sure that you clean the bottom well too! There are "special" gravel cleaners, just a hose with a sort of plastic "sucking part" in one end, that you can use to clean debris in the gravel. It's very important that you get rid of all the dirt in the tank at least every 2-3 weeks so there won't be any excess nitrates laying around. You should also feed very small amounts, and rather often during the day 2-3 times a day would be good  Morning and evening if that fits your routines best! Make sure to give them some vegetables from time to time, as these are high in vitamins and fibers. Shelled peas are the easiest to get, prepare and feed, and they're usually not very messy since the fish eat them in one bite  You can also give them lettuce or small pieces of cucumber and melon... more or less anything. And if you'll get any problems, just ask and we'll help! 
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Re: Is this normal for a goldfish?
« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2010, 02:04:13 PM » |
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thanks so much  right now my water is cloudy ... but I think I need to replace the filter cartridge. Its a power filter for a 10-15 gallon. And I will get a hose for water changes. And a water test kit. with proper care how long can they live in the ten gallon? and with a dorm i cant get the sucky thing ... but I will look into it. I have a lot I have to pay for right now. A test kit is around 20. Next time I get paid I will get them a water test kit. And a hose segment when I do water changes I could put it on the both so it sucks out the yucky stuff that way ... would it work?
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