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OrandaLover
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Medicated Fish Food! Yay! (Jungle)
« on: December 17, 2010, 08:09:02 PM »

Hey all!
Yay! So finally I've ordered the anti-parasite medicated fish food from Jungle... It's coming early next week I think. Has anyone used this stuff before? Does it work really well??
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Re: Medicated Fish Food! Yay! (Jungle)
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2010, 08:20:05 PM »

I'm a huge fan of Jungle products.
They work really well.
I have the anti-parsitic fish food on hand but I so far haven't used it.
The anti- bacterial food works really well, and I've used that.
I imagine the anti-parsitic food works well too. Smiley
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Re: Medicated Fish Food! Yay! (Jungle)
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2010, 08:22:04 PM »

ok, thanks Minde, that's a relief!
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Re: Medicated Fish Food! Yay! (Jungle)
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2010, 10:38:31 AM »

YAY! So it finally came... only here's the thing. My dad and I ordered the Anti-parasite food (we doubled and triple checked the order), but they sent us anti-bacteria?Huh The package even said that we ordered Anti-parasite, but they messed it up Undecided
Oh well, I'll still use the antibacterial stuff, and order the anti parasite stuff later I suppose
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Re: Medicated Fish Food! Yay! (Jungle)
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2010, 02:06:11 PM »

Did you need the anti-parasite food for now?
If not, it doesn't really matter if you ask me Tongue I'd be happier for the anti-bacterial one since it's pretty rare that fish get internal parasites Smiley (At least for me)
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Re: Medicated Fish Food! Yay! (Jungle)
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2010, 02:21:05 PM »

I suppose you're right  Wink I'm going to start medicating the goldies on Monday-Friday, then I'll give them a delicious X-Mas Breakfast!
(What do you think of the menu: Eggs and bacon in the morning, and Christmas Ham for dinner? LOL, Just kidding! I'll probably give them oranges/other fruit and if I find any new fish food before then, that too!)


Oh!!!!!
Just thought of something! What should I get my goldies for X-Mas presents? I totally haven't gone shopping for them!  Tongue
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Re: Medicated Fish Food! Yay! (Jungle)
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2010, 02:27:29 PM »

If you're going to use the medicated food, You need to feed that and only that for 7-10 days...otherwise forget it, as the bacteria you're treating for will come back twice as strong and kill them.
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Re: Medicated Fish Food! Yay! (Jungle)
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2010, 02:44:38 PM »

really? The packaging said for 5-10 days.... but I guess that would be pretty short a time.......... darn! What about X-Mas then? I really want to give them something special... but I s'pose that can wait. The goldies' health is much more important!
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Re: Medicated Fish Food! Yay! (Jungle)
« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2010, 05:36:25 PM »

What symptoms do they have that you are treating them with this anyway?
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Re: Medicated Fish Food! Yay! (Jungle)
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2010, 04:41:06 AM »

Well, I'm not buying them anything special, but I'm a big fan of feeding them zucchini, so that's what I got yesterday Smiley They all like it so much that it's pretty much a party whenever they get it Wink Everyone go nuts! Grin

But I would, if the packaging says 5-10 days, still treat for at least 7, just to err on the safe side Undecided
If there really is some symptoms showing on your fish, you need to take it seriously and have it solved! But yes, do please tell what it is?
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Re: Medicated Fish Food! Yay! (Jungle)
« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2010, 10:13:45 AM »

Well, Batal and Jenga, I don't know what was wrong with them, but they all showed the same symptoms: curling over, very labored breathing, not eating, difficulty swimming, etc. I tested the water and nothing was wrong either  Huh but I mean, I don't want the same thing to happen to the rest of the goldies, so I decided to give them this for good safety measure. It's also a good preventative!  Grin
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Re: Medicated Fish Food! Yay! (Jungle)
« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2010, 02:01:24 PM »

Do you already have your testkit? Looks to me it still is a water chemistry issue... :'(
Have a look at this one, please.

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Re: Medicated Fish Food! Yay! (Jungle)
« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2010, 12:43:03 PM »

Thanks Hanna - I'm getting my test kit when I go to PetCo on Sunday or Monday, not sure exactly when.  Wink Thanks for the link!
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Re: Medicated Fish Food! Yay! (Jungle)
« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2010, 05:32:01 AM »

Are you at least changing 50% of the water now and then? It would certainly help your fish more to do that maybe every second day instead of sitting around waiting for your ammonia test Undecided
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Re: Medicated Fish Food! Yay! (Jungle)
« Reply #14 on: January 01, 2011, 11:53:22 AM »

Yup, I did a 50% change yesterday, and the next one will be within a week. I'm getting the test kit tomorrow.
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Re: Medicated Fish Food! Yay! (Jungle)
« Reply #15 on: January 01, 2011, 05:08:19 PM »

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Yup, I did a 50% change yesterday, and the next one will be within a week. I'm getting the test kit tomorrow.

You really should change the water more often as long as there is Ammonia present. Not in another week only, as Ammonia will built up again
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Re: Medicated Fish Food! Yay! (Jungle)
« Reply #16 on: January 01, 2011, 06:18:57 PM »

I definitely agree with Hanna on this one. You can't deliberately force your fish to swim around in toxic water when you might just as easily find the time to change it twice a week without problems.
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Re: Medicated Fish Food! Yay! (Jungle)
« Reply #17 on: January 01, 2011, 06:45:58 PM »

Alrighty - this week and the next I can do two water changes a week... If I do 50% each time, will that clear up most of the ammonia? I want to do water changes twice a week, but then there's school....  Embarrassed I'm willing to find time, but I'd like to know if two water changes a week would do it  Smiley
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Re: Medicated Fish Food! Yay! (Jungle)
« Reply #18 on: January 01, 2011, 06:52:43 PM »

You won't know that unless you test the water. The more the better simply! And try to feed them at most once a day until you know that the tank is cycled and ready Smiley
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Re: Medicated Fish Food! Yay! (Jungle)
« Reply #19 on: January 01, 2011, 07:42:10 PM »

alright, thanks Nossie! I'm getting the test kit tomorrow (I might actually only get the Ammonia test kit and get the test strips for the rest, since the master kit doesn't include Chlorine and I really need that) Cheesy
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Re: Medicated Fish Food! Yay! (Jungle)
« Reply #20 on: January 02, 2011, 12:38:18 AM »

You really don't NEED a Chlorine test. Add your conditioner to the water, sometimes if need be double dose, it doesn't hurt. ( You only need the Chlorine test if you recharge Purigen or Macropore )

The other tests are MOST impotant, otherwise you will never know when your tank is cycled properly.
Test strips are waste of money and most inaccurate. Using those you may get pristine test results but it is not the case.

You definitely will have the best value for your money with the master test kit.
If you think you need a Chlorine test, well, get it in addition.

Well, this is an advice only ( which you asked for ) what you will do is completely up to you.

But if you get test strips and believe in their test results, please don't be surprised and complain when there IS sth wrong with your fishies and the water chemistry...
everybody on here advised you against them....only for you to think about it...

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Re: Medicated Fish Food! Yay! (Jungle)
« Reply #21 on: January 02, 2011, 12:42:52 AM »

BTW, thinking the other tests are not that important, makes me ask (please don't be offended, just like to know)

Do you really understand the Nitrogen Cycle and its imortance in this small ecosystem?

If you don't please feel free to ask... we all learned about it.
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Re: Medicated Fish Food! Yay! (Jungle)
« Reply #22 on: January 02, 2011, 05:28:48 AM »

Buying test strips would, as Hanna says, DEFINITELY be a waste of time, money and safety. Really, go for the master test kit and buy another test for Chlorine Smiley They do sell them separately too. I bought my ammonia and nitrate test because my test kit had lots of weird parameters that I haven't really used Undecided

Why would you need a chlorine test in the first place?
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Re: Medicated Fish Food! Yay! (Jungle)
« Reply #23 on: January 02, 2011, 10:21:46 AM »

Alrighty guys.... I wanted the chlorine test just to be safe, but I understand now - yes, I could double dose. I'll get the master kit if it is in the store today, I'll keep my eyes peeled for it!  Wink

BTW Hanna - yes, I do understand the Nitrogen cycle, but maybe there was something I missed? Could you explain it to me? Thanks!  Cheesy
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Re: Medicated Fish Food! Yay! (Jungle)
« Reply #24 on: January 02, 2011, 02:06:50 PM »

Nitrogen cycle:

Fish excrete Ammonia through breathing and through their poo => Beneficial bacteria convert ammonia into Nitrite => Which is converted into Nitrate.

Nitrate is consumed by plants as nutrients and removed with the weekly water changes. Change no less than 50% a week.
During the cycling of the tank, some ammonia spikes may be present, to later decrease and turn into nitrite, which will also spike, to finally decrease and disappear to leave only Nitrates.
It's crucial that you protect your fish during the first stages of cycling since ammonia and nitrite are the most toxic compounds in smaller concentrations than nitrate. Therefore, if you don't have a test kit, change water every second day or so. About 30-50% should do it. Do not feed the fish too much either, once a day or once every two days should be sufficient.
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Re: Medicated Fish Food! Yay! (Jungle)
« Reply #25 on: January 02, 2011, 02:24:12 PM »

Alrighty, thanks so much Nossie!
My tank is already cycled, but I am getting the test kit later today and will post results tomorrow. I will also do a water change tomorrow or Tuesday, depending on my schedule, but I WILL get it done  Wink
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Re: Medicated Fish Food! Yay! (Jungle)
« Reply #26 on: January 02, 2011, 04:35:43 PM »

Your waterchanges REALLY should depend on the test results and you should make the effort if you want happy and healthy fish, regardless what kind of schedule you've got at school, you may only change it a tad...
Not like... aw, there is Ammonia present or Nitrite but I'll change it tomorrow.... Sad

Nossie just explained that Ammonia and Nitrite are MOST toxic in very small ammounts....
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Re: Medicated Fish Food! Yay! (Jungle)
« Reply #27 on: January 02, 2011, 08:04:47 PM »

It can take less than half an hour to change some water, if your fish depend on it which they do well I don't see how you do not have a spare half an hour? I also believe your tank is going through another cycle because of the move, it may only be a mini one but your tank isn't exactly cycled. How do you know that if you don't even test your water? That is why testing is so important  Wink You may have to do a water change every day or every second day if you see either ammonia or nitrites. I've already told you how important it is to get rid of these asap and if they are there well they've been there for such a long time already!

School only really goes for like 6 hours, there is another 18 in the day Cheesy
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Re: Medicated Fish Food! Yay! (Jungle)
« Reply #28 on: January 02, 2011, 09:29:01 PM »

Also according to Batal and Jenga curling over, did you read the link I gave you earlier in this thread?  Cry
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Re: Medicated Fish Food! Yay! (Jungle)
« Reply #29 on: January 03, 2011, 03:56:26 AM »

I agree with Andrea and Hanna, really. To know if your tank is cycled, you have to test the water, and Ammonia and Nitrite have to be ZERO. Nada, nothing, gone, not present.
And if you see that the ammonia is there, and it's high, if you see the nitrites being there, and on the more dangerous side of the charts, you have to take the time to change the water! Even I did while cycling the monster, and a water change there takes me two hours! D8 (Darn buckets...)
Shape up! Those are your fish and your responsibility, so really, stop procrastinating and get to work Wink
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