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scrivens345
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Re: Should i use fake or real plants in my aquarium?
« Reply #30 on: November 26, 2011, 09:06:04 AM »

Swords are goldfish proof. You can get dwarf variety. The sword can grow quite big, but it will propagate lots of baby plants on a runner, you can then plant the babies, and remove the over-sized parent if necessary. No need for additives.
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Re: Should i use fake or real plants in my aquarium?
« Reply #31 on: November 26, 2011, 12:26:19 PM »

You mean plants like Amazon Sword, Scrivens?

I popped by the market where a guy sells plants (they aren't in with any fish, in their own little tanks, so that means no risk of disease?) and he has available red luwigia, amazon sword, straight vallis, wheat plant, fountain plant, wisteria, red/green/white dracena, cabomba and elodea densa  Grin

So apart from Swords and the Elodea Densa which I already know are goldfish proof, would any of the other plants be possibilities? I currently have what I think is the cabomba in the tank with Lucky already and it's not doing too bad, apart from leaves breaking off like crazy and her nibbling at it occasionally... actually after all that I'm surprised theres any plant left Roll Eyes
I think I tried the straight vallis once too, but that one died after Lucky nibbled holes in it's leaves XD Plus I'm not sure it was getting enough light/nutrients either as it's roots went brown, anyway to avoid that happening?

I checked pets at home for plants and they have some lovely moss balls that sit on the aquarium floor, not sure how long one of those would last with Lucky around XD But it was 3 for 12 so thats fairly reasonable, and they also have java fern and stuff there, but some of it is on it's own and some of it is in tanks with the fish, so will probably have to quarantine something like that for longer.

Infact have you guys heard of any 'dips' for plants, so you don't have to quarantine them for ages?
I've read of a few different types, didn't know if anyone here had experience with them  Smiley
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Re: Should i use fake or real plants in my aquarium?
« Reply #32 on: November 26, 2011, 12:52:28 PM »

Yes I meant amazon swords, Anubias are pretty tough too



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Re: Should i use fake or real plants in my aquarium?
« Reply #33 on: November 26, 2011, 01:42:08 PM »

Oh thanks! You have so many useful websites ^_^

Ohhh Ludwigia is on there! So maybe I could get some of that too  Cheesy

I am considering looking for little shallow pots or tubs I can plant things in, not sure how that would go with my design, that I have in mind, but shall have to look.

Otherwise I think Anubais attached to rocks and Java fern on drift wood will be my very-basic-planted-tank way forward! (To begin with at least)
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Re: Should i use fake or real plants in my aquarium?
« Reply #34 on: November 27, 2011, 03:57:26 PM »

Elodea are all BUT goldfish proof. They grow fast, but not fast enough once the goldfish get a taste for them Tongue
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Re: Should i use fake or real plants in my aquarium?
« Reply #35 on: November 27, 2011, 06:46:32 PM »

Really? I've heard people recommend them, maybe its a hit and miss thing? I could always put one bit in with her and see how it goes?

I'm thinking about getting some more Cabomba for the bigger tank, as this has done well, even with Lucky nibbling it occasionally, so I imagine if I buy a few bunches, it will do nicely. I would like to give the Red Luwigia a try too, as that would add some nice colouring!

I was contemplating the vallis, I love long grasses, but I'm not sure what killed it before, lack of nutrients or Lucky eating it XD I read somewhere, that you need to keep their roots above the substrate?
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Re: Should i use fake or real plants in my aquarium?
« Reply #36 on: November 28, 2011, 12:10:09 PM »

They have very thin, small and transparent leaves, they are usually in goldfish tanks, but after the fish reach a certain size, it's only a waste of money to keep the plants there with them since they'll be eaten and floating withing a few hours after planting at most Wink

All red/purple colored plants will also get eaten, they're usually sensitive plants as well and need extra nutrition and special lighting to thrive, so they obviously wouldn't do good with a goldfish Smiley In general, everything that has light green leaves, slightly red or thin leaves will be eaten. Thicker, darker colored plants usually taste bitter and are hard to eat Wink
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Re: Should i use fake or real plants in my aquarium?
« Reply #37 on: November 29, 2011, 02:51:32 PM »

Ahhh thanks for the tip! Are there any long, tall plants good for going towards the back of the tank that would survive goldfish?

I'm thinking of having anubais in the front maybe attached to some rocks and some java fern with some java moss on the driftwood and bigger rocks in the middle (I figure if plants are attached to objects they'll be easier to move when cleaning). Just don't know what to stick at the back?
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Re: Should i use fake or real plants in my aquarium?
« Reply #38 on: November 30, 2011, 04:26:17 AM »

I have these... *blackout* I think they're called Cryptocoryne, they grow to be about 30-40cm high and get really thick, slightly pinkish stalks and large leaves up top Smiley You could also look for Onion plants, I've asked about them myself but haven't found any, they are supposedly good plants to have with herbivorous fish Smiley

Very nice idea Smiley Java Ferns will also grow pretty big and tall, 20-25cm maybe? So a thick bush of them in the back would also do well Smiley
I had some Java moss on a piece of wood a while ago but they ate that in a few weeks.. xD
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Re: Should i use fake or real plants in my aquarium?
« Reply #39 on: November 30, 2011, 01:04:00 PM »

Well I'm hoping one fish, won't demolish java moss too much  Grin

I saw some amazing moss balls in Pets at Home, but did wonder if that would be just be an expensive meal!

Oh Crypts! I've heard of those being mentioned before, will keep an eye out for them  Cheesy
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Re: Should i use fake or real plants in my aquarium?
« Reply #40 on: November 30, 2011, 04:12:22 PM »

Over time she'll eat it for sure Smiley But in case you buy a piece of wood where it already grows, there's not much harm to it. Most annoying thing is all those tiny pieces of it floating about :/

I'd love a mossball or two in my goldfish tanks, and I have seen a few tanks that had them, but you can always ask yourself: "Did they just buy those mossballs recently and the goldfish ate them  after a week or two?"
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Re: Should i use fake or real plants in my aquarium?
« Reply #41 on: December 06, 2011, 08:20:26 AM »

Haha yeah, the moss balls in pets at home, were in a tropical tank anyway!

Maybe I'll avoid the moss if it'll float everywhere, I had enough of that when I first got the Camboda.

I think for the back of the tank, I'll stick with Camboda as that's done well in the little tank -I'll be sure to get rid of any loose leaves before putting it in the tank- and then maybe trying Crypts and Elodea. See whether Lucky demolishes them to pieces or not.

I'm sure with lots of plants Lucky won't be able to eat them all anyway XD It will no doubt be a different story for the 350 litre tank I plan to get later though!
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Re: Should i use fake or real plants in my aquarium?
« Reply #42 on: February 21, 2012, 12:04:24 PM »

I'd think real plants, as they provide more oxygen for the fish.
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Re: Should i use fake or real plants in my aquarium?
« Reply #43 on: March 09, 2012, 03:12:38 AM »

i have just install my tank..with some plant ..i am worried with this plant..how can i sure that my plants are okay??? Huh
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Re: Should i use fake or real plants in my aquarium?
« Reply #44 on: March 09, 2012, 04:56:18 AM »

What is it about the plant that worries you?

Generally you can quarantine plants for a week or so in plain water, or use a dipping method, before adding fish, if you are worried about them carrying any disease or parasites.
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Re: Should i use fake or real plants in my aquarium?
« Reply #45 on: March 09, 2012, 01:16:05 PM »

i think myriophyllum aquaticum. is this plant is friendly with goldfish?? what is other goldfish friendly plant??
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Re: Should i use fake or real plants in my aquarium?
« Reply #46 on: March 09, 2012, 05:25:17 PM »

This has been answered many times in this thread. Anubis and Java ferns are hardy and won't be eaten. Elodea grows fast so even though the fish eat it it may survive.
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Re: Should i use fake or real plants in my aquarium?
« Reply #47 on: March 09, 2012, 05:26:51 PM »

I'm afraid I'm not hugely familiar with the plant you mentioned, generally with plants the protocal is to quarantine them, so the plant is isolated for a period of time, or soaked for a short amount of time in a dip, such as a salt dip or bleach dip. Once quarantined and clean the plant can be added to the tank.

Goldfish are notorious for eating plants, so it's possible they may nibble at it.

This article has some information about the plant, I believe you are talking about;
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This website also has other suggestions for plants;
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With plants I have some elodea densa growing in my tank and other members here have thick leaved plants like java fern and anubais that goldfish are less inclined to eat.
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