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Goldiegirl
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My nu 'chu :D
« on: September 09, 2010, 02:58:27 PM »

Finally got a pic of this sweetheart - at a massive 1/2 inch long, she is by far one of the cutest fish I've ever seen (but perhaps I'm biased). Tell me whatcha think of her! I'd also like any suggestions as far as names - I'm thinking about the name Gold Dust but that isn't set in stone yet.
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Re: My nu 'chu :D
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2010, 08:43:05 AM »

She's so, so so CUTE! Smiley
The most baby-like fish I've seen in a long time, take good care of her Wink

And I would absolutely support Gold Dust as her name, it's really nice and unique Smiley
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Re: My nu 'chu :D
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2010, 01:32:23 PM »

That definitely is the cutest fish ive ever scene. I think Gold Dust is a great name!! Wink
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Re: My nu 'chu :D
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2010, 03:46:55 PM »

My vote is.... GOLD DUST  Wink
a beautiful name for a beautiful fish
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Re: My nu 'chu :D
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2010, 07:53:56 PM »

Well thanks all for the wonderful comments! I shall do my best as the caretaker of this precious baby Wink

The name Gold Dust is officially official XD I recently noticed a few spots of ich on her tail; must have sprung up from the stress of being moved to a new tank and a long car ride. Treating for ich now but she seems to be quite healthy otherwise.

Another question for ya! I was thinking she was a ranchu for a long time until I read something about the lionhead breed being real similar...just with a longer body and some differences in the tail formation. She seems to have a longer body and a nubby tail, but hey what do I know maybe someone could verify by the pic.
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Re: My nu 'chu :D
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2010, 01:59:04 AM »

I am not an "expert" in recognizing the different goldfish varieties, especially if they are babies....
But hopefully Nossie will be on soon, I am sure she knows Wink

Welcome GOLD DUST into our fish friend family Grin
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Re: My nu 'chu :D
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2010, 02:42:00 AM »

She's definitely a Ranchu Smiley
Lionheads have much bigger headgrowth, and their back is rather straight. Not to mention the main characteristic of the Ranchu: The 90 degree angle on their tail tuck Wink Which the lionhead doesn't have Smiley But most goldfish with headgrowth are called Lionheads in the western culture, even Orandas at times, so googling isn't going to help unless you know exactly what you're looking for! (I had my difficulties xD)

Here's a pic, compare the back and head to your Ranchu, and you'll see Cheesy

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Re: My nu 'chu :D
« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2010, 02:56:02 AM »

Man that is one cute fish Smiley I think I may be all clucky over this fish haha and the name is perfect. One day I want a black moor and a ranchu in a tank together.
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Re: My nu 'chu :D
« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2010, 02:12:47 PM »

I saw an adorable (probably abandoned Cry) big moor in the pet shop the other day as I bought the last plants needed Smiley On Monday, I'll go take him home adn buy a huge-ass external filter Wink
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« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2010, 07:15:29 PM »

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I saw an adorable (probably abandoned Cry) big moor in the pet shop the other day as I bought the last plants needed Smiley On Monday, I'll go take him home adn buy a huge-ass external filter Wink

Poor Moor, Nossie you are fabulous, such a good soul  Kiss Post pics asap and tell us about your new filter please.
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Re: My nu 'chu :D
« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2010, 09:31:42 AM »

Thanks, Nossie for the verifying picture. I couldn't really care less what kind of fish she was haha she's so cute and full of fun it doesn't matter. I gave a karma for the pic Grin

Thank you for welcoming her to the community! ^.^ I am sure she's happy to be a member here ;p I shall post a few more pics of this adorible girl..

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Re: My nu 'chu :D
« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2010, 02:07:35 PM »

Hanna: I will for sure! I'll be going there tomorrow Smiley But... I have some bad news... I introduced Horus to the other fish today. And he was chasing them around biting their tails |: So.. I'm going to have to give him away. I'll give him to that good pet shop where I've bought my plants and most of my fish, so hopefully he'll get a good home. It hurts me very much since he was one of my lovely babies, and so unique and pretty! But I still can't keep him like this, the orb was too small (even if he loved his orb... xD) and I won't risk having my other children hurt by him in any way. In other words, I'll exchange him for that big moor in the same shop, hopefully I'll get a discount... it hurts my fish-mommy heart :'c

Goldiegirl: Ah, I know d: I think that goldfish are cute no matter the variety, since they have such wonderful personalities, so it really couldn't matter less to me either Wink
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Re: My nu 'chu :D
« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2010, 02:23:46 PM »

Ahhh, I know how it feels with beautiful aggressive fish. I once had a 2 inch silver fantail/ranchu (the one I had the pic of in the fish identification forum) and he was so gorgeous. But he started to bully my tiny inch long red cap oranda every time it was time to eat. He would get her in the corner and just push into her and bite her. That was not ok (my red cap Opal is my precious one) so I had to take him back to the store too Sad Some fish are just one fish per tank I guess..
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Re: My nu 'chu :D
« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2010, 04:45:34 PM »

 Sad Oh, this is so sad to hear, but hopefully he will get a lovely home again. Isn't there any chance for your mum to keep him?
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Re: My nu 'chu :D
« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2010, 06:06:07 PM »

Your new fish is certainly a cutie. Smiley
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Re: My nu 'chu :D
« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2010, 08:32:03 PM »

well that Ranchu is adorable!!!  sooo cute!! Smiley

Nossie what a bummer!  Too bad he can't just be kept by himself. Sad
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Re: My nu 'chu :D
« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2010, 02:15:37 AM »

Hanna: I was talking to her about it yesterday, but I'm afraid that he, first of all, would bully HER goldies (but they are bigger...) and second, that orb is a big pain to clean, and the filter is really weak |: Besides, my sister refuses to listen to me when I ask her to give him 5 pellets a day at most! xD So he's been overfed the times I've visited... I'm just afraid he might not be happy there |: Besides, I don't spend much time there lately, AND I don't have anywhere to keep him until they'd come get him Cry
I tried letting him go with the rest of the fish again today, but he just wouldn't leave Berry alone! He was biting her fins and even head when he got to it...

Minde: I agree! :C It did work up until now, but I don't want to keep him like that for too long actually. It can't be good for him :'c
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Re: My nu 'chu :D
« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2010, 02:52:41 AM »

Aw that's so sad about Horus but I'm sure he will find a loving home Smiley It seems always the more advanced people go for the bigger older fish, while the newbies want a mini fish. It sounds very strange, has he always been like that??

I am jealous of your big moor. Post pictures when you get him pretty please. I always love to look at those big moors in the fish shop, they have them occasionally and they are so big and pretty. I want one that big one day.
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Re: My nu 'chu :D
« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2010, 06:51:28 AM »

I know, I couldn't give him away already today, I need some more time... But for now I'm going to keep him in his beloved orb d: And yes, actually he was really hostile towards little Samantha when I had bought her too, I had to move her to the other tank with the other fish |: And I tried putting him together with them about three times, introducing him last so that he'd be the "newcomer". No change! He's still chasing them around! I thought he was territorial simply, but in an 83 gallon? Something that big? He seems to want his own space, I guess.

I've got him now! Wink He's a bit bigger than my orandas, so he'll probably grow still Smiley Looks like he came from a good home! And yes, I'll try to take some pics and upload them asap! The tank is pretty much ready by now Smiley
But I really understand you!! There's something special about those big moors, they look so soft and velvety somehow.
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Re: My nu 'chu :D
« Reply #19 on: September 13, 2010, 04:34:20 PM »

 Huh Could you try a tank divider? I use one whenever my goldies get like that.
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Re: My nu 'chu :D
« Reply #20 on: September 14, 2010, 11:29:52 AM »

Good idea!! I wonder why I didn't think of it earlier o_o
But then again, to have dividers as anything but a temporary solution doesn't look very attractive to me :/

For some reason he got really friendly and nice last night! I had kept a kind of basket floating by the surface for him. We went to visit some friends for a while, and when I came back, he had snuck out of the basket somehow, but he wasn't bullying anyone. He hasn't for all day today either Smiley So I feel really relieved Smiley I believe that Mr. Big might've shown him how to behave, because Horus tried chasing/biting him a bit, but Mr.Big bit him right back. After that, things have been rather calm in the tank! Smiley Hope it'll keep up Smiley
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Re: My nu 'chu :D
« Reply #21 on: September 15, 2010, 10:28:31 AM »

Haha its like you used the "time out" technique!! Sometimes they don't appreciate friends until they have none. Shocked
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Re: My nu 'chu :D
« Reply #22 on: September 15, 2010, 11:49:10 AM »

But he was living alone in the quarantine tank until now, and when I tried to introduce another fish with him (since I had two rather small tanks at the time), he was doing the same, but yeah... maybe he noticed that company is nice after all Wink
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Re: My nu 'chu :D
« Reply #23 on: September 15, 2010, 05:20:49 PM »

Hmmm maybe so. Glad to hear he came around after all Wink how long do you usually quarentine for?
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Re: My nu 'chu :D
« Reply #24 on: September 15, 2010, 05:37:38 PM »

Two weeks, because so far I haven't really noticed any sickness in the fish after that period so I've moved them out. Except for the orandas, they were displaying fraying fins and some swim bladder issues, but that passed after three weeks! Smiley
So that's a pretty good quarantine period for most possible diseases or parasites to start showing up.
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Re: My nu 'chu :D
« Reply #25 on: September 16, 2010, 11:27:15 AM »

Sounds like a good time period for quarentining. Do you treat with any meds? I'm just wondering what others like to do when they get a new fish; what works, what doesn't. If you get your fish from a good specialty store you typically don't have to worry so much about illness. Now chain stores are another story  Tongue Most of the time the issue with them is ich or fungus. Sometimes you get a fish you think is healthy then they turn out to infect your whole tank!  Angry
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Re: My nu 'chu :D
« Reply #26 on: September 16, 2010, 12:04:23 PM »

I'm usually treating with salt, for any possible parasites, and against fungus. Other than that, maybe Melafix or Pimafix might be good if the fish has any slight infections or wounds Smiley
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Re: My nu 'chu :D
« Reply #27 on: September 19, 2010, 07:37:27 PM »

You are a very efficient quarentiner  Cheesy *tumbs up*

My ranchu's ich STILL isn't going away...it's better but not alll gone and it's been like 2 weeks. She also has gotten a sort of brownish orange smudge on her gill cover. It's not an ammonia burn - I know what those look like; well defined and jet black. It's faded around the edges and lighter in color. Is her coloring just starting to change or is it something bad?
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Re: My nu 'chu :D
« Reply #28 on: September 19, 2010, 08:42:35 PM »

Okay I looked her over even more and did a thorough inspection...it looks like she's getting a powdery grayish dust on her head and her fins, almost like ich except blackish brown. She even has some of it on her little nostril flap thingy! Please someone tell me what this is!
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Re: My nu 'chu :D
« Reply #29 on: September 20, 2010, 02:30:56 AM »

How about velvet disease? It's caused by a different parasite, and looks very similar to ich in the beginning. You can see the difference if you know what you're looking for though Wink Velvet disease has smaller particles attached to the fish, like little sprinkles! It can almost look like gold powder sometimes, but it generally looks pretty dark on first glance, so try looking again. This can also cause some parts of the skin to look grayish or dark.

If that's not the case, it sounds like your fish is producing more slime coat than usual, which is a response to the parasites. It can usually give the fish some grayish or darkened spots around the body, and you should notice some parts where the slime is obviously thicker, possibly even peeling off the fish.

In other words, you might not have removed the parasites yet. What have you been treating with? Have you been monitoring the water quality daily? (Or every second day)
I suggest doing a large water change, about 70% even! Then you should add another dose of salt to a 0.3% solution, whatever says on the package that would work against ich or velvet disease. You could try raising the temperature in your tank gradually as well, that should speed up the life cycle of the parasites so they'll die faster, in other words, before reaching the fish. You should be able to combine an anti-parasite medication, look around for something that would deal with ich, and if that's what you've done already, take a broad-spectrum (or "shotgun") medication against parasites. Make sure that it's not going to treat bacterial infections and the like, since that's not what you need! Overtreatment is usually harming the fish more than helping, so be sure to treat only for the problem at hand. You should also be looking at the water quality if you haven't done that so far! Flawless water quality is crucial for your fish to recover! Be certain to change the water whenever the nitrates reach 20-30ppm while your fish is sick so that it won't have an impact on the immune system.
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