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fantailer
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« on: January 17, 2012, 05:25:43 PM »

You guys with big 100 gallon tanks how do you do 50% water changes without hauling around giant buckets?
I know this isn't really about equipment but how long for a goldfish to grow a wen.

Jose is about 8 months old but doesn't have one.


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« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2012, 05:58:51 PM »

Like this.


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fantailer
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« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2012, 06:31:03 PM »

Okay thanks.


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« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2012, 06:50:17 PM »

I haven't got one of those yet so I use 5 gallon buckets to treat water then put the water into a huge (new) trashcan and drag it to the tank, use a two gallon bucket to put the water in. Very quick and easy, only make two trips to the kitchen.
My orandas have all had a small wen from the start. Linden's wen is very small tho. All of my oranda's wens have been growing like crazy since I took them off processed foods. They now eat homemade gel food, fresh veg, hikari freeze dried and frozen plus some live food.


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« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2012, 04:34:14 AM »

I use buckets, mostly because I don't need to carry them very far with the kitchen sink right across the room

(Usually empty the buckets in the bathroom though..)

And about wens, I don't really believe in the "It'll start growing when they're x years old", because all my orandas had wens already as teeny tiny babies

Besides, if you got Jose from a pet shop, he may have pretty bad chances of growing any headgrowth. Does he have a dorsal fin or not? (Sorry, I don't remember Sad

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« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2012, 05:19:38 AM »

Nope he doesn't have a dorsal fin.


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« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2012, 05:31:25 AM »

Cheers for that Dragonii, I always wondered how that was done...


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« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2012, 06:10:48 AM »

Thanks everyone for helping! Karma too all!


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« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2012, 10:55:07 AM »

Once you get one of those water change systems you will wonder why you waited so long to get it. They are great.
I first used them when I went to work at an aquarium shop. You ever wonder how they do water changes on 100+ tanks in one day??? They do it with those things. We had something like 115 40 gallon tanks and one 250 gallon salt water display at the first shop I worked at. With that thing I could do water changes in all of the sale tanks before lunch and then I did the 250 after lunch. Of course the salt water tanks we had to use pre mixed salt water to refill them, but we had huge vats upstairs that we pre mixed that in and then we just drained them into the tanks after sucking the old water out with that siphon.
I can do a water change on my 150 in a matter of minutes. I also find it less stressful on the fish as there is no splashing around when you pour water back in the tank. It just gently flows in from the hose.


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« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2012, 11:35:48 AM »

Dragonii: That sounds awesome! Cheesy

How do you dose the water conditioner?
Do you dose for the whole tank at once and add that as you fill in the water or...?


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« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2012, 05:43:42 PM »

All this amazing stuff you guys have over the pond, awesome water changes, cheap massive tanks.... makes me wish I lived in America!

Cheri I would love to hear how you make your home made gel food sometime!


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« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2012, 05:49:43 PM »

I am wondering about the conditioner with as well.
Skwishkee- just posted the recipe in general. I would definetly recommend giving it a go. Easy, fun and healthy.


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« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2012, 05:54:37 PM »

Nossie, I dose it right as it is getting full. The stuff that I use is so strong that one little cap full is all you need for a tank that size. The little tanks like my betta's... I just dip a toothpick in it and let one little drop fall in the water.

Skwishee, you guys should have that thing over there too. The original was green and called a python. Then Lee made one and now Aqueon. All it is really is a siphon with a long hose attached to a waterbed filler. lol

As for the cheap tanks.... yeah, but they also look cheap. If you want the good ones you have to pay through the nose.


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« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2012, 03:46:50 AM »

Nice

Just as I thought.

And I agree fully about them tanks by the way c:


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« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2012, 12:32:47 PM »

Yeah, I think we have talked about that before. Over there tank building is still considered an artistic trade, over here it has become all about making them fast and cheap. Good news is that it is starting to turn around. Due to the poor economy people aren't buying new tanks as much. They are choosing to buy used. To counter this the tank manufacturers are being forced to offer new styles and better quality... but at a lower price.
These tanks are poping up on both sides of the pond of course as they are being made by larger companies like Fluval, Marineland, etc.
Down side is that most of them are small. They are finding that they sell quicker as they are cheaper.
An example would be the Fluval Edge. I have a 6 gallon and a 12 gallon Edge. They are very nice tanks, but they are small.
This is the 6 gallon:


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I just ordered a 3.4 gallon Penn Plax Radius for one of my betta's. It has curved corners on the two front edges and only ran $50 for the tank with filter and led light. Couple of years ago you couldn't touch anything (even that small) with curved glass for anywhere under several hundred dollars.


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« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2012, 12:42:48 PM »

It is small indeed, it makes even guppies look big! Cheesy

But you've got such gorgeous setups! They are your tanks, right? Or are they just examples?


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« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2012, 04:17:48 PM »

Yep, they're mine. Only thing I have always had trouble with was live plants. I have had some success with them in my nano tanks but as for the bigger ones.... they die. But I can't keep regular non aquatic plants alive either. Best record so far was about two years on a bamboo.

I killed bamboo.... how sad is that?


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« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2012, 05:42:10 PM »

Lol! Most my plants died or were eaten but the java ferns and Anubis are still hanging on.
But another question about that water change siphon...thing: how do you know exactly how much water you removed in order to dose? Or does your conditioner not need to be exact? A water change in minutes is very appealing...I spent about four hours on maintenance today.


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fantailer
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« Reply #18 on: January 19, 2012, 05:59:53 PM »

Richt now I'm hoping an anubia I have in quarintine can be distastful to goldfish.


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« Reply #19 on: January 19, 2012, 06:03:26 PM »

Yup, they have all nibbled the Anubis but don't like it. I read they are great for low light too. My sword plants didn't have enough light and quickly perished.


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« Reply #20 on: January 20, 2012, 03:58:56 AM »

My goldfish only eat some algae off of the Anubias I have

And the Cryptocoryne is doing really good too! Cheesy

I even got one of my anubias to bloom before, I think I've got a really awesome tank light Cheesy


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« Reply #21 on: January 20, 2012, 09:56:57 AM »

I'm hoping to pick up some anubais and java fern soon

As well as topping up on Cabomba. Let's see how long a forest of the stuff lasts. As I'm thinking of buying a few bunches.
The one in the tank is completely bald on the top and Lucky has started working on the bottom now XD

Dragonii, you must have so many beautiful tanks in your home! I can't seem to locate any python water changers? Not that I need one at the moment, buckets will be fine for now. But if I get that giant tank I really want......... Also how do fish get on with curved sides?
I have seen the fluval edge's around, they are -in my mind- still expensive for what they are.
Here it's around £99 for a 23 litre fluval edge tank Embarrassed

I picked up my little plastic 21 litre tank for around £12.
So when it comes to examples like that, I am afraid the cheaper not as elegant version will always win in my mind Wink

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Would the curved sides not confuse them? That's one reason bowls aren't recommended? Maybe I have the wrong idea? XD
At the moment I'm trying to figure out what's cheaper buying a big tank like that in a 15/20% discount sale, or sourcing the tank/stand/light/additional filters separately..... ho hum.....


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« Reply #22 on: January 20, 2012, 10:00:27 PM »

I hear ya, it's so much easier to buy cheap tanks. There was a time when I had like 9-12 aquariums at any given time. They were all make shift set ups that I got second hand from customers back when I worked in pet stores.These days (I guess it's the age catching up to me, lol) I prefer to have fewer, but nicer set ups. My 150 took me about a year to get everything together for it. I'm still working on the cube for the goldfish.


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« Reply #23 on: February 08, 2012, 08:36:43 PM »

Dragonii- THANK YOU for reccommending the siphon thing. It is brilliant! It takes twice as long to get the water out (as the hosing is very slim) but it's so much easier. I still do things the hard way- I marked measuring lines on my tank, spoke to Aqueon exstensively about their conditioner and stand by the tank as it refills mixing in minute amounts of conditioner. Overall it took about two and a half hours to do a 70% change, but I was able to go about my day as I did it. I wish I had ordered it online as I paid a bit over $100 for it but oh well, very worth it.


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