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Re: new baby orandas
« Reply #60 on: January 20, 2011, 05:03:15 PM »

Ok, thanks, I can't wait until I become a pro like all those before me. I would like to add another but I don't want to overcrowd,  I have four so far Cool
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Hanna
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Re: new baby orandas
« Reply #61 on: January 20, 2011, 05:05:14 PM »

Using waterconditioner to remove chlorine, chloramine, heavy metals and hydrated lime, you MUST NOT LET IT SIT FOR 24 HOURS !

USE IT STRAIGHT AWAY !
Also add bebeficial bacteria.
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April
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Re: new baby orandas
« Reply #62 on: January 20, 2011, 05:52:48 PM »

Hi 'mybetterhalf' welcome and thanks for sharing about your new set up Smiley I am just going through the previous posts and see you say there is 4 baby orandas in your 30 gallon, is this correct? If so please do NOT add any more. I know they are very small right now but they will become big in a short time. The rule of fin is 1 goldie per 10 gallons so you're already overstocked. As Hanna said you must use conditioner in water. Do look at the sticky too for 'newbies' it's helpful to us to have as much info as possible to help. Thanks and good luck  Grin
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Re: new baby orandas
« Reply #63 on: January 21, 2011, 01:37:33 PM »

Letting the water stand around for 24 hours... ehom, honestly, it's the most useless piece of sh*t that anybody ever came up with.
Or let me re-phrase, it's useless to be doing it NOW when we have all the wonderful water conditioners that treat the water instantly and make it usable in the tank. In other words: Letting the water stand = waste of time and effort.
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mybetterhalf
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Re: new baby orandas
« Reply #64 on: January 21, 2011, 04:38:47 PM »

Ok, Thanks!  My husband informed me last night that he does use the water conditioner. I'm so new!  Roll Eyes  I will wait on adding more babies and watch them grow,...right now they look great and happy...and they greet me when it's feeding time....can't wait to they grow bigger to share pictures
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Re: new baby orandas
« Reply #65 on: January 21, 2011, 07:28:18 PM »

water conditioner a must with most water supplies nowadays because of cloramines they WILL NOT evaporate when left sitting so you have to use something to get rid of them now that water companies add them to water supplies. Now if you have well water or a great wateer supply like minde lol thats different. and like others said really a waste of time to let sit since you have to use stuff anyways.

I have some bad news that i am going to share with everyone because i dont want others to make my st*pid mistakes. I have lost 10 of my babies now and am most likely going to lose the other 5. First mistake is i added another fish i only quarentined for a week (d*mb a**) well they got a fungus. I treated with a great medicine i have but I never verified the gallons of the tank i bought used. it is a streched out hexagon that isnt made anymore so cant even find it online. well i trusted the seller who had tank from new to know gallons and that was the really big mistake. I dosed the medication for a tank that it turns out I am almost 10 gallons smaller than and i overdosed them. Didnt know what was going on for a mild fungus to kill them off like that then i figurged it out i had ODed my babies. I am devistated. I have 5 left but 2 look really bad be suprized if they make it through night and only one seems normal so i pray for it. But think the meds and the illness just was too much for their young bodies. So please everyone quarentine for at least 4 weeks and before dosing know exact size of tank. The guilt of this is horrible.

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Re: new baby orandas
« Reply #66 on: January 22, 2011, 03:24:15 AM »

So so sorry to hear this sad news Aimee. Sad Cry
I made the same mistake before and lost some beautiful fish. Sad
Quarantine as long as possible to insure that  the new fish is safe from any diseases. From now on I will quarantine a new fish for 3 whole months I'd rather be safe than sorry. Smiley
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Re: new baby orandas
« Reply #67 on: January 22, 2011, 03:38:17 AM »

I'm so sorry to hear about that Aimee Sad Don't feel bad after a week of quarantining and not seeing anything bad, I imagine most people would introduce their fish to the tank. Diseases can be mysterious as we've all learnt and sometimes medications are even harder to deal with!

Have you done some big water changes and added carbon to get rid of the overdosed medication? It may save the rest of your babies.

Please don't feel bad, you were only trying to help.
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Re: new baby orandas
« Reply #68 on: January 22, 2011, 05:01:53 AM »

Aimee: That's so sad Sad I'm really sorry... but it happens sometimes, I guess...
Anyway, did you try what Andrea mentioned?? I'm sure it would be worth a shot!!
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Re: new baby orandas
« Reply #69 on: January 22, 2011, 05:24:48 AM »

Oh no Aimee you lost a few well they lived a good life at the time theylived with you.
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Re: new baby orandas
« Reply #70 on: January 22, 2011, 10:03:34 AM »

Aimee,
So sorry for your loss of your beautiful babies...that is so sad, but don't beat yourself up.  You did the best you could with the information you had. Cry
Everyone on here has lost goldfish for one reason or another.  It's very sad but it happens. Sad
Mark it down to a learning experience and move on.  You will find some beautiful goldfish to replace the ones you lost, I am sure of it!!   Everything will be ok!
~*~RIP~*~
Beautiful babies
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Re: new baby orandas
« Reply #71 on: January 22, 2011, 11:24:58 AM »

I'm so sorry that happened but ty so much for sharing this information with us and letting us know how important these things are.  I was going to ask how long you qt for and now I know not to skimp on this.  You may not have been able to save these guys but trust me you probably saved one of my future fishies for sure.   I will take this as a lesson learned as I know you did. 
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Re: new baby orandas
« Reply #72 on: January 22, 2011, 05:45:03 PM »

Ohhhh nooo, Aimee, how sad... RIP sweet babies....

Could you save the others by doing an big water change and adding carbon to the filter?

Please don't feel guilty, you tried your best with the info you was given....
Unfortunately it proves again not to trust strangers, but trust your own test- measuring-, calculating results... Cry
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Re: new baby orandas
« Reply #73 on: January 22, 2011, 09:16:54 PM »

Thanks all for everything.
yes i didn water changes removed meds the restarted at proper dose once all ok (on advise of fishyfarmacy). Its just they got too weak from it and it caused to much damage. I have 3 left 2 of which are looking good other one is weak but i have fingers crossed. I can just hope they are strong enough to over come this most were not. the other fish (tricolor oranda baby that i adore and the ryukin, and oranda babies that are my 5 years old daughters [ones that i didnt QT long enough]) are all doing ok. Guess the babies were just to young. crossing my finger that sparkles my tricolor and maycee's two fish keep doing well if stinky or yuki die she will be devistated.
I do hope this tragedy does help some fish in the future.
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April
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Re: new baby orandas
« Reply #74 on: January 23, 2011, 02:31:35 AM »

OMG Aimee Embarrassed I am so so sorry to hear this. It is heartbreaking and I hope you are ok Cry I will keep them in my most positive loving thoughts, your sweet little ones that are rallying. May the angels watch over them. Oh it brings up some sadness and having an idea of how awful you must feel. Give yourself time sweetie and peace will come. Thinking of you wishing for the best ♥ Hugs
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Re: new baby orandas
« Reply #75 on: January 23, 2011, 04:17:11 AM »

Man, it's hard with some of those stranger shaped tanks... you'd have to be a maths genius to figure out how to calculate the size!!
Well, I wish you all the best and I hope your fishies will make it! Smiley
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Re: new baby orandas
« Reply #76 on: January 23, 2011, 07:13:58 AM »

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Man, it's hard with some of those stranger shaped tanks... you'd have to be a maths genius to figure out how to calculate the size!!
Well, I wish you all the best and I hope your fishies will make it! Smiley

Draw the shape of the bottom on a paper and divide it into rectangles and triangles, calculate the square-centimetres. Measure the height of the tank and you can calculate each of the volumes and add all together.
Or just divide the bottom shape into one big square and two symetrical trapeziums. You can calculate the volume above the square and once the volume above the trapezium, take it twice and add towards the square volume.
( lol, at school i LOVED geometry ) Wink
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April
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Re: new baby orandas
« Reply #77 on: January 23, 2011, 12:41:48 PM »

Geometry rocks
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Re: new baby orandas
« Reply #78 on: January 23, 2011, 02:17:07 PM »

I liked it too, but.. umm.. never understood it xD (Luckily I don't need it at work!!)
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Re: new baby orandas
« Reply #79 on: January 23, 2011, 06:34:42 PM »

I put them in a bucket with some of the tank water. Then as quickly as possible I cleaned out their tank really well incase any yuckies because of dying and because of meds also got water out of filter wiped it down and changed media except for the bio wheels since thats where all my good bacteria is. I filled a tank i know exact gallons of with water then transfered to the odd tank (babies tank) with a siphon. Then what was left I put in with a 1 gallon pitcher I had. I got exact gallons that way (no math YEAH!). Then i treated and put babies back in once i made sure temp was same between them (wasnt going to float the babies in bags in that toxic water). I also added more of the super-bac nitrifying bacteria stuff that always cycles my tanks within a day just in case meds killed all my good stuff on bio-wheels. Got that tank loaded with lots of aeration also.

I was right that the one baby was too weak he passed last night Sad

 The two I have left are ones that would have been considered a cull because of size and one has curled gils. But are little fighters and deserve their shot as much as others. Not one hunded percent sure those two out of woods yet and a bit worried about my tri-color sparkles. But they are doing decent just have to recover from a tramatic event. Hopefully none left have any permenant damage. Thanks for all your support guys it does help. It will take awhile for me to stop beating myself up about this.
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Re: new baby orandas
« Reply #80 on: January 23, 2011, 09:07:26 PM »

I'm so sorry to hear about your babies Aimee Sad
I have my fingers crossed that the last two will survive Smiley
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Re: new baby orandas
« Reply #81 on: January 24, 2011, 06:13:00 AM »

Hanna Say wha'! Cheesy
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Re: new baby orandas
« Reply #82 on: January 24, 2011, 04:26:45 PM »

LOL fantailer Cheesy

Aimee, so sorry about the baby you lost now too Cry
I keep fingers crossed for the 2 other ones now, they should recover in this good water you prepeared for them
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Re: new baby orandas
« Reply #83 on: January 26, 2011, 12:59:22 PM »

Sorry time for bad news guys. I guess the overdose was just to much for the little ones they have all died now. My daughters little fish from same tank and my little tri-color thriving so i assume their young bodies could'nt adjust to the medications being off so much. I know i learned a big lesson about medicating and knowing exact gallons. If they left its probably for best because as bad as it seems to be they probably would have had health problems. I am hoping the other fish that were in tank (which are doing great) have now permenant damage. They will get the best i can give. RIP little babies!
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Re: new baby orandas
« Reply #84 on: January 26, 2011, 02:15:05 PM »

I'm so sorry Aimee for the loss of your last babies.  May they RIP. 
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Re: new baby orandas
« Reply #85 on: January 26, 2011, 03:34:44 PM »

So sorry to hear this Aimee, I hope your other fish will be alright now! Sad
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Re: new baby orandas
« Reply #86 on: January 26, 2011, 04:29:29 PM »

So sorry for your lost hunnie...must be so hard to lose them so young.
R.I.P. Babies
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Re: new baby orandas
« Reply #87 on: January 26, 2011, 04:41:40 PM »

 Cry So sad... Sorry to hear this Aimee, RIP litlle fishies Cry
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Re: new baby orandas
« Reply #88 on: January 27, 2011, 01:31:30 AM »

R.I.P. little Orandas. Sad
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Re: new baby orandas
« Reply #89 on: January 27, 2011, 06:02:46 AM »

Poor Orandas Sad
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